04-04-2010, 12:00 AM
I continue not to take the FI seriously, nor the theory of Flyers. That is not to say we as humans are not subjected to social programming. Robert Monroe described similar notions when he talked about Loosh, and used the same analogy of milk cows being tended for their output.
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I suppose I can recognize that my interpretation of these things is unique to me, no doubt. Too much talk of it among the masses would make me appear insane.
Here is how I see it: To undestand the Flyers, one must suspend the Rationality of modern thought found, in universities. The Flyers, like Jesus' ressurection, or my main interest, Native American lore, is legend or mythology. The trick here is that there are some thing unexplainable by science, although there may be resonance; String Theory, or the energy behind matter, in physics. Existence is infinity, beyond the ability of mortals to know-don Juan's 'the unknowable'. Infinity is where God, or the Eagle if you so choose, reside. My point is, it is just a handy way to explain the madness seen among humanity over the mellinia, and a signpost to the way out of madness. And before I forget, the Flyers concept is also non-dualistic. It removes the error of good and evil, tells us only to be aware of predators and act accordingly. As CC wrote, one can't blame a lion for the attack; it is the predator's nature and, human beings are now the dominant predator. ( can't help an aside here: I have seen 50 lab mice stuffed into a little 12 by 8 inch plastic container- they become cannibalistic and feed on each other from overpopulation)
I just find lore and sorcerers' stories useful, and, for so many generations, this oral tradition was the way knowledge and wisdom were passed on. It is my opinion that we have lost much as this tradition has faded, as well as the distance we now have from organic creation. That is, I follow don Juan's suggestion of talking to plants; as we should know as well, talking to animals is productive in our relations with them, so why not plants?
I have often said, to myself at least, that it does not matter if the Bible is true; same for Castaneda. First, this is a good way to avoid legalism, and secondly, wisdom can be found anywhere, if one has a 'landmark' and is sensitive to the information. This is part of Seeing, in my opinion. The secret is to accept the possibility of the existence of a thing. Since things of spirit cannot be proved, we test possibilities and affirm our personal experience. This is the meaning of the Biblical Hebrews 11:1-3, or Romans 1:20
So, don Juan sees grids of energy in and through everything as the source of our consciousness and perception. I see it as an ocean of spirit, not unlike the Earth's atmosphere; we swim in it and live or die by it.
There is no rational reason to be a warrior stalking the path with heart, other than an alignment with that 'ocean of spirit'.
Of course there is social programming, of all kinds. Our parents start it, we reinforce it in many ways. The idea is to 'shift the assemblage point' and step away from it. That is one reason you won't catch me in a Civil War(USA or CSA) reenactment. I've had enough of that and could care less! Tradition has its place, as well as its limitations. The Flyers are like sticky flypaper to ensnare us.
Happy Easter!
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I suppose I can recognize that my interpretation of these things is unique to me, no doubt. Too much talk of it among the masses would make me appear insane.
Here is how I see it: To undestand the Flyers, one must suspend the Rationality of modern thought found, in universities. The Flyers, like Jesus' ressurection, or my main interest, Native American lore, is legend or mythology. The trick here is that there are some thing unexplainable by science, although there may be resonance; String Theory, or the energy behind matter, in physics. Existence is infinity, beyond the ability of mortals to know-don Juan's 'the unknowable'. Infinity is where God, or the Eagle if you so choose, reside. My point is, it is just a handy way to explain the madness seen among humanity over the mellinia, and a signpost to the way out of madness. And before I forget, the Flyers concept is also non-dualistic. It removes the error of good and evil, tells us only to be aware of predators and act accordingly. As CC wrote, one can't blame a lion for the attack; it is the predator's nature and, human beings are now the dominant predator. ( can't help an aside here: I have seen 50 lab mice stuffed into a little 12 by 8 inch plastic container- they become cannibalistic and feed on each other from overpopulation)
I just find lore and sorcerers' stories useful, and, for so many generations, this oral tradition was the way knowledge and wisdom were passed on. It is my opinion that we have lost much as this tradition has faded, as well as the distance we now have from organic creation. That is, I follow don Juan's suggestion of talking to plants; as we should know as well, talking to animals is productive in our relations with them, so why not plants?
I have often said, to myself at least, that it does not matter if the Bible is true; same for Castaneda. First, this is a good way to avoid legalism, and secondly, wisdom can be found anywhere, if one has a 'landmark' and is sensitive to the information. This is part of Seeing, in my opinion. The secret is to accept the possibility of the existence of a thing. Since things of spirit cannot be proved, we test possibilities and affirm our personal experience. This is the meaning of the Biblical Hebrews 11:1-3, or Romans 1:20
So, don Juan sees grids of energy in and through everything as the source of our consciousness and perception. I see it as an ocean of spirit, not unlike the Earth's atmosphere; we swim in it and live or die by it.
There is no rational reason to be a warrior stalking the path with heart, other than an alignment with that 'ocean of spirit'.
Of course there is social programming, of all kinds. Our parents start it, we reinforce it in many ways. The idea is to 'shift the assemblage point' and step away from it. That is one reason you won't catch me in a Civil War(USA or CSA) reenactment. I've had enough of that and could care less! Tradition has its place, as well as its limitations. The Flyers are like sticky flypaper to ensnare us.
Happy Easter!