05-25-2017, 12:00 AM
rosygyro wrote:
Nagual Menagerie wrote. I fail to realize what makes moving and shifting different from one another. To shift something is to move it; unless you're applying a personal definition, I see no difference between the terms.
Seers, useful ones, shift often. I doubt they care about "prongs" or seeing "prongs" in others. Prongs are only for those who lack the final phase of seeing (application). Those who can't "do" teach (or preach).
so what your saying is?
That because the terms moving and shifting mean the same thing when talking about adjusting a physical objects position
that when talking about the assemblage point as shifting or moving, The assemblage point
behaves like a physical object and is subject to the same terms.?
So what you are saying is
that i lack the final phase of seeing and because i cant "do" the final phase of seeing
that i am preaching about prongs, prongs being a made up thing which real seers do not waste their time with.?
.....
it stands to reason that my made up prong should be inside my made up division between shift and move then
seeing s they both dont fucking exist. eh?
................................
I am saying a prong is exactly the opposite of a physical object (it is abstract). A prong cannot behave as a physical object. Yet, I don't see why a prong can't have associated behavior. What I'm saying is a prong is a symbol of awareness and englishtenment, but that it's so abstract a concept that most will fail to grasp it's true meaning. A prong is just as vague as God. God and prongs mean nothing until people interpret or designate meaning to these concepts. Prongs are alien concepts. If Carlos is working with humans, the term prong is inappropriate. If Carlos is working with aliens, then the term prong is appropriate. Since Carlos wrote a book and those books are sold to human, then he probably should have used a different term if he wanted to be understood by more people. Carlos was a smart man; but a shitbag communicator. Knowledge is useless to those who are unable to share it with others.
Again, it's a two-step process:
recap : understanding
knowledge : communicating
This could also apply:
unity : freedom
Carlos teaches unity via individualism (specific directions). Truthfully, the job can get done with many single hands. On the other hand, the job is better done when everyone is a whole individual working in unison (with two hands from each person). It doesn't require a group to "make it past the eagle". The group becomes the eagle; but the individual can easily walk past the eagle on their own. Carlos taught one basic method; the masses are stupid so Carlos had to dumb it down a little. The advanced version of the Carlos method was written by his wife. She understood it better. That edition is not in print. It's not in print because it would be more controversial than Carlos. Carlos merely wanted women to avoid wearing panties for sorceric reasons. The wife would advise no clothing, except during sex, and every fifth word, of the third sentence has to rhyme--and that it must be written in reverse (only the rhyming words). Carlos' version was acceptable for the general population. Those capable of following the directions for the advanced version wouldn't need the book, thus, the wife never wrote one.
I am saying forget the notion of a prong unless it helps you conceptualize the meaning of freedom.
If prongs are useful to you for your understanding: use them.
I teach new agers new ways of thinking, so the "do" vs "teach" idea was an inside joke (to make fun of myself). I do and teach.
Sometimes, it's fun to play both sides.
I don't use prongs because the symbolism is too complex for my tastes. Breaking things down into their most basic form is more efficient for my own process, but please use whatever process works for you. If prongs work for you, use it.
Also, I've only got opinions and I've never proven my use, value, or knowledge to you. I'm a nobody. Who knows if prongs exist. I mean, who knows if WE even exist. On a shallow, fundamental level we exist.... but do we really? If we aren't certain we, ourselves, are real--would it be worth it to even consider prongs? Probably not so much. It's relative, really.
Nagual Menagerie wrote. I fail to realize what makes moving and shifting different from one another. To shift something is to move it; unless you're applying a personal definition, I see no difference between the terms.
Seers, useful ones, shift often. I doubt they care about "prongs" or seeing "prongs" in others. Prongs are only for those who lack the final phase of seeing (application). Those who can't "do" teach (or preach).
so what your saying is?
That because the terms moving and shifting mean the same thing when talking about adjusting a physical objects position
that when talking about the assemblage point as shifting or moving, The assemblage point
behaves like a physical object and is subject to the same terms.?
So what you are saying is
that i lack the final phase of seeing and because i cant "do" the final phase of seeing
that i am preaching about prongs, prongs being a made up thing which real seers do not waste their time with.?
.....
it stands to reason that my made up prong should be inside my made up division between shift and move then
seeing s they both dont fucking exist. eh?
................................
I am saying a prong is exactly the opposite of a physical object (it is abstract). A prong cannot behave as a physical object. Yet, I don't see why a prong can't have associated behavior. What I'm saying is a prong is a symbol of awareness and englishtenment, but that it's so abstract a concept that most will fail to grasp it's true meaning. A prong is just as vague as God. God and prongs mean nothing until people interpret or designate meaning to these concepts. Prongs are alien concepts. If Carlos is working with humans, the term prong is inappropriate. If Carlos is working with aliens, then the term prong is appropriate. Since Carlos wrote a book and those books are sold to human, then he probably should have used a different term if he wanted to be understood by more people. Carlos was a smart man; but a shitbag communicator. Knowledge is useless to those who are unable to share it with others.
Again, it's a two-step process:
recap : understanding
knowledge : communicating
This could also apply:
unity : freedom
Carlos teaches unity via individualism (specific directions). Truthfully, the job can get done with many single hands. On the other hand, the job is better done when everyone is a whole individual working in unison (with two hands from each person). It doesn't require a group to "make it past the eagle". The group becomes the eagle; but the individual can easily walk past the eagle on their own. Carlos taught one basic method; the masses are stupid so Carlos had to dumb it down a little. The advanced version of the Carlos method was written by his wife. She understood it better. That edition is not in print. It's not in print because it would be more controversial than Carlos. Carlos merely wanted women to avoid wearing panties for sorceric reasons. The wife would advise no clothing, except during sex, and every fifth word, of the third sentence has to rhyme--and that it must be written in reverse (only the rhyming words). Carlos' version was acceptable for the general population. Those capable of following the directions for the advanced version wouldn't need the book, thus, the wife never wrote one.
I am saying forget the notion of a prong unless it helps you conceptualize the meaning of freedom.
If prongs are useful to you for your understanding: use them.
I teach new agers new ways of thinking, so the "do" vs "teach" idea was an inside joke (to make fun of myself). I do and teach.
Sometimes, it's fun to play both sides.I don't use prongs because the symbolism is too complex for my tastes. Breaking things down into their most basic form is more efficient for my own process, but please use whatever process works for you. If prongs work for you, use it.
Also, I've only got opinions and I've never proven my use, value, or knowledge to you. I'm a nobody. Who knows if prongs exist. I mean, who knows if WE even exist. On a shallow, fundamental level we exist.... but do we really? If we aren't certain we, ourselves, are real--would it be worth it to even consider prongs? Probably not so much. It's relative, really.