self-actualizers... is that like Awakened or Toltec Seers?

[find dharma girl]

Zen saying, "Before Enlightenment chop wood carry water, after Enlightenment, chop wood carry water."

WHATEVER   ! !

Glad to see you posting, Mornings Son.  Truthfully, it don't mean s*hit.

Except it is very cool I have an underlying composed heart (adequacy in my silent awareness).  (For now) that's keeping me from insanity.