06-21-2011, 12:01 AM
Bob May wrote:Nu Lang wrote:
And its tricky to say the quality of being without an error or fault. Because it can bring up the notion of right/wrong morality. I say it does not mean this at all. Without error or fault has in this case a more representational/structural meaning.
For example...sure Superman could tell a lie, to get some personal perceived advantage, but at what cost to his power? Because, where does his power come from? This is the key.
In the movie, it comes from the Sun, which again is representational/allegory too. The Sun does not 'think' the Sun just IS. It shines on all.Yes as allegory the sun is the source of all life. It shines on us all, but all do not acknowledge it as their source of life. Both Jesus and Superman
acknowledged that their source of power was elsewhere. Not of themselves. Also both were more interested in others than themselves. They came to serve. As my teacher used to say "Of myself I am nothing."
It hit me one day that true humility is nothing more than a realization of this truth.
If the sun ever went out we would all die. If God ever blinked everything would cease to exist.
I grew up during the 60's watching movies made in the thirties, forties and fifties. There was a thing called honor that permeated these movies and was always a part of the character of the heroes. That fell by the wayside with the coming of the "anti-hero" of the late sixties.
I went to graduation ceremonies a few weeks ago because my son graduated from U of I.
I was very dissappointed in the speach given by the school official at the very end of the ceremonies,.. He was a Dean or something.
The entire speech consisted of, "you will now be a "success" and don't forget to pay us back for what we have "given" you by giving money to the alumni association."
No wonder our country and the world is in such sad shape. Young people, the new leaders of business, taking their first step into full adulthood and no mention of what kind of people they should be or what kind of character they should try to emuluate or develop in themselves.
No mention at all of things like honor or character. I guess he thought that would be too close to religion. If he thought at all about his speech before he gave it.
My son majored in business administration. It was called a commencemant speech. So what are they commencing to do, these new leaders of business?
Go out into the world and keep their eye on the "bottom line," I guess. What a crappy message.
I'd rather spend my life "tilting at windmills." Yes I knwo what you mean about business. Thats very relevant what you say. Its goign to lead to a breaking point I think, and humanity will have new challenges to face, hopefully they will rise above and use that as an opportunity to become more spiritual.
Both Jesus and Superman
acknowledged that their source of power was
elsewhere. Not of themselves. Also both were more interested in others
than themselves. They came to serve. As my teacher used to say "Of
myself I am nothing."
It hit me one day that true humility is nothing more than a realization of this truth.
If the sun ever went out we would all die. If God ever blinked everything would cease to exist.
Yes, and well said.
Ok, I'll update a bit about the latest Superman movie ...I still have two more to go. This one...Christopher Reeve's second one, shows him giving up his power to be with Lois Lane (apparently he can;t sleep with her AND be Superman, lol..(I suspect he could if he just tried...I think the remake movie overrides this rule ), and I think he must have really desired her so he gives up his superpower, get a night of intimacy with her, ...camera zooms in on their content smiling faces, lol.
Then later these 3 baddies from outer space have a vendetta with Superman's father who imprisoned them, and by a fluke they make it to earth and are looking for Superman so as to 'get even'. Turns out they have the same superpowers on earth as he, except he now has none as he gave them up (by goign into a molecule chamber to deactivate his power). So after he realized his mistake, he hitchhikes back to his crystal place where his power is and begs for it back and he gets it back and then kicks butt.
There is a funny line from the movie, this sheriff and deputy, southern red neck guys...they come upon the 3 alien bad guys and the Sheriff says to the cowardly deputy to get on out there and face those 3 people. The deputy hesitates and the sheriff says "Dwane, you got to learn to kick some ass if you want to be a peacemaker." LOL
And its tricky to say the quality of being without an error or fault. Because it can bring up the notion of right/wrong morality. I say it does not mean this at all. Without error or fault has in this case a more representational/structural meaning.
For example...sure Superman could tell a lie, to get some personal perceived advantage, but at what cost to his power? Because, where does his power come from? This is the key.
In the movie, it comes from the Sun, which again is representational/allegory too. The Sun does not 'think' the Sun just IS. It shines on all.Yes as allegory the sun is the source of all life. It shines on us all, but all do not acknowledge it as their source of life. Both Jesus and Superman
acknowledged that their source of power was elsewhere. Not of themselves. Also both were more interested in others than themselves. They came to serve. As my teacher used to say "Of myself I am nothing."
It hit me one day that true humility is nothing more than a realization of this truth.
If the sun ever went out we would all die. If God ever blinked everything would cease to exist.
I grew up during the 60's watching movies made in the thirties, forties and fifties. There was a thing called honor that permeated these movies and was always a part of the character of the heroes. That fell by the wayside with the coming of the "anti-hero" of the late sixties.
I went to graduation ceremonies a few weeks ago because my son graduated from U of I.
I was very dissappointed in the speach given by the school official at the very end of the ceremonies,.. He was a Dean or something.
The entire speech consisted of, "you will now be a "success" and don't forget to pay us back for what we have "given" you by giving money to the alumni association."
No wonder our country and the world is in such sad shape. Young people, the new leaders of business, taking their first step into full adulthood and no mention of what kind of people they should be or what kind of character they should try to emuluate or develop in themselves.
No mention at all of things like honor or character. I guess he thought that would be too close to religion. If he thought at all about his speech before he gave it.
My son majored in business administration. It was called a commencemant speech. So what are they commencing to do, these new leaders of business?
Go out into the world and keep their eye on the "bottom line," I guess. What a crappy message.
I'd rather spend my life "tilting at windmills." Yes I knwo what you mean about business. Thats very relevant what you say. Its goign to lead to a breaking point I think, and humanity will have new challenges to face, hopefully they will rise above and use that as an opportunity to become more spiritual.
Both Jesus and Superman
acknowledged that their source of power was
elsewhere. Not of themselves. Also both were more interested in others
than themselves. They came to serve. As my teacher used to say "Of
myself I am nothing."
It hit me one day that true humility is nothing more than a realization of this truth.
If the sun ever went out we would all die. If God ever blinked everything would cease to exist.
Yes, and well said.
Ok, I'll update a bit about the latest Superman movie ...I still have two more to go. This one...Christopher Reeve's second one, shows him giving up his power to be with Lois Lane (apparently he can;t sleep with her AND be Superman, lol..(I suspect he could if he just tried...I think the remake movie overrides this rule ), and I think he must have really desired her so he gives up his superpower, get a night of intimacy with her, ...camera zooms in on their content smiling faces, lol.
Then later these 3 baddies from outer space have a vendetta with Superman's father who imprisoned them, and by a fluke they make it to earth and are looking for Superman so as to 'get even'. Turns out they have the same superpowers on earth as he, except he now has none as he gave them up (by goign into a molecule chamber to deactivate his power). So after he realized his mistake, he hitchhikes back to his crystal place where his power is and begs for it back and he gets it back and then kicks butt.
There is a funny line from the movie, this sheriff and deputy, southern red neck guys...they come upon the 3 alien bad guys and the Sheriff says to the cowardly deputy to get on out there and face those 3 people. The deputy hesitates and the sheriff says "Dwane, you got to learn to kick some ass if you want to be a peacemaker." LOL