01-22-2011, 12:00 AM
ninth octave wrote:
Wow, you just made a stitch in nine with the teaching on the Hebrew symbol Tav. This gives great clarity in the tav where my questions were indirectly hovering around the truth of the mark of Cain. I just asked a pastor this question and he said he really didn't know. .... by the understanding of the scriptures of the OT intercoursing with the Torah along with the New Testament.It is in this kind of sharing of our faith that gathers insight into our roots.
I'm glad you connected some dots with the mark. I think whole books could probably be written on it.
The New Testament is "inside of the Old" Jesus said the Law and Prophets prophecied of him. He also said that Moses wrote of him. It is amazing what you find hidden in the Law when you read it as a code to times in the future (Presesnt days).
We have to cultivate the habit of looking for the spiritual side of things.
I was just speaking to my wife and remembered something about the Jacob's ladder story.
He sees a ladder set up that reaches to heaven. Angels are ascending and descending upon it. Jesus, when he meets Nathanael, tells him you shall see angels ascending and descending upon the Son of Man. So he is pointing back to the Jacob's ladder story. If you go back to that story, the phrase "behold, a ladder set up.." in Hebrew adds up to 888. That is the sum of the name Jesus in the Greek language. So while Jesus is ointing back to that story, the story is pointing forward to him.
I am also fond the Gnostic scriptures and feel a kindred spirit while reading them. My innermost spirit soars to higher heights as I read them . I know I was more than likely a monk that hung out in the desert trying to copy the text for burial before they could be burned.I more than likely had your back Brother Bob May along with Brother Lex.
Brother Lex?, ...the name sounds familiar. Is he in this forum?
Spiritual experiences are our inheritance.
Yes this is true.The prophet Joel asserts this about sons and daughters and old men shall see prophesy in visions and in dreams and is presented again in the coming of the Holy Spirit. Greater things have yet to come and greater things are still to be done in the city.
Yeah, Peter stands up and says "THIS is THAT which was spoken by the prophet Joel.." Why churches teach that that was then and doesn't count for anything today is beyond me, Pentecost was the beginning of something, not the end of it.
I too have made the correlation of dreams and interpretation of dreams with Joseph and Daniel. I have had similar visions that are written of in the OT but could readily realized these visions only after I read it through in the Bible.
I like to call it 20/20 hindsight. You can't really understand the bible until you begin to experience it. My teacher used to call it the "Mystic's Handbook."
I don't believe in starting a new doctrine or theory after it such as the 16 year old lassie in the 1800's who surged a new word called the Rapture. Sometimes people need to experience spirituality via a dream , vision or even hallucination in order to believe or understand and awaken their spirituality.
I don't think Margaret MacDonald coined the wrong use of that word or as starting any doctrine. (she later became a cloistered nun) It means literally "taken up." It has nothing to do with bodies dissapearing. Paul was "taken up" to the third heaven. I've been "taken up" to places also. The value of her vision, which may not have been a vision at all but a higher awareness, was that she was seeing the world from a higher perspective. An expanded awareness of what is going on around us.
Unlike all of the other end times interpreters who are waiting for some future physical events, she saw that what they were waiting for was (and is) happening right in front of her eyes but that she had not seen it before.
This is what Thomas was told in the Gospel of Thomas. The Kingdom of heaven is all around but men do not see it.
If we are on the path, we will get spiritual glimses every now and again, though. If we hold to those experiences as precious to us we will recieve more. "To him that has shall more be given." That is "laying up treasure in heaven."
Those that don't pay attention to the spiritual side of life are the ones burying the talents and what they have will be taken away.
I'm glad you accepted my post in the spirit that it was given.
Good talking to you.
Bob
Wow, you just made a stitch in nine with the teaching on the Hebrew symbol Tav. This gives great clarity in the tav where my questions were indirectly hovering around the truth of the mark of Cain. I just asked a pastor this question and he said he really didn't know. .... by the understanding of the scriptures of the OT intercoursing with the Torah along with the New Testament.It is in this kind of sharing of our faith that gathers insight into our roots.
I'm glad you connected some dots with the mark. I think whole books could probably be written on it.
The New Testament is "inside of the Old" Jesus said the Law and Prophets prophecied of him. He also said that Moses wrote of him. It is amazing what you find hidden in the Law when you read it as a code to times in the future (Presesnt days).
We have to cultivate the habit of looking for the spiritual side of things.
I was just speaking to my wife and remembered something about the Jacob's ladder story.
He sees a ladder set up that reaches to heaven. Angels are ascending and descending upon it. Jesus, when he meets Nathanael, tells him you shall see angels ascending and descending upon the Son of Man. So he is pointing back to the Jacob's ladder story. If you go back to that story, the phrase "behold, a ladder set up.." in Hebrew adds up to 888. That is the sum of the name Jesus in the Greek language. So while Jesus is ointing back to that story, the story is pointing forward to him.
I am also fond the Gnostic scriptures and feel a kindred spirit while reading them. My innermost spirit soars to higher heights as I read them . I know I was more than likely a monk that hung out in the desert trying to copy the text for burial before they could be burned.I more than likely had your back Brother Bob May along with Brother Lex.
Brother Lex?, ...the name sounds familiar. Is he in this forum?
Spiritual experiences are our inheritance.
Yes this is true.The prophet Joel asserts this about sons and daughters and old men shall see prophesy in visions and in dreams and is presented again in the coming of the Holy Spirit. Greater things have yet to come and greater things are still to be done in the city.
Yeah, Peter stands up and says "THIS is THAT which was spoken by the prophet Joel.." Why churches teach that that was then and doesn't count for anything today is beyond me, Pentecost was the beginning of something, not the end of it.
I too have made the correlation of dreams and interpretation of dreams with Joseph and Daniel. I have had similar visions that are written of in the OT but could readily realized these visions only after I read it through in the Bible.
I like to call it 20/20 hindsight. You can't really understand the bible until you begin to experience it. My teacher used to call it the "Mystic's Handbook."
I don't believe in starting a new doctrine or theory after it such as the 16 year old lassie in the 1800's who surged a new word called the Rapture. Sometimes people need to experience spirituality via a dream , vision or even hallucination in order to believe or understand and awaken their spirituality.
I don't think Margaret MacDonald coined the wrong use of that word or as starting any doctrine. (she later became a cloistered nun) It means literally "taken up." It has nothing to do with bodies dissapearing. Paul was "taken up" to the third heaven. I've been "taken up" to places also. The value of her vision, which may not have been a vision at all but a higher awareness, was that she was seeing the world from a higher perspective. An expanded awareness of what is going on around us.
Unlike all of the other end times interpreters who are waiting for some future physical events, she saw that what they were waiting for was (and is) happening right in front of her eyes but that she had not seen it before.
This is what Thomas was told in the Gospel of Thomas. The Kingdom of heaven is all around but men do not see it.
If we are on the path, we will get spiritual glimses every now and again, though. If we hold to those experiences as precious to us we will recieve more. "To him that has shall more be given." That is "laying up treasure in heaven."
Those that don't pay attention to the spiritual side of life are the ones burying the talents and what they have will be taken away.
I'm glad you accepted my post in the spirit that it was given.
Good talking to you.
Bob