01-12-2010, 12:00 AM
Death Defier wrote:
Nice stuff.
In essence one could say that Nagual Seership is a form of Yoga (union) with the universe that surround us, even if the target is slightly different.
It's an evolving path. New seers are going beyond their traditional limitations.
Hatha yoga (the most popular branch of yoga) is only indirectly physical. Meaning: The point of the postures is stimulating the chakras, making the body
strong, firm and free of energetic debris in order to achieve higher meditation. Pranayamas (breathing exercises), mantras and mudras (body locks in several
places of the body such as the throat, anus and positions of hands and face) aims to this as well.
The problem is that the vast majority of yoga practitioners are not in it to get heightened awareness but for health and relaxation.
Kundalini Yoga on the other hand aims directly to empowering the energy body in order to reach the subtle spheres.
Anyone serious in yogic practice does some form of kundalini yoga. And anyone serious in spiritual evolution does everything that helps, regardless of the
traditions.
So, in short, nagual procedures for developing the double and yogic techniques are naturally compatible. Let's not forget that there is even such a thing
as "Dream Yoga", an approach closer to lucid dreaming than shamanic dreaming (because it works mainly within the realm of the mind) used in order
to transcend duality.
Thanks, I'm definitely not an expert on Yoga, so I don't know how much inorganic energy can be cultivated by physical practices, if any. It may be
that Inorganic Yoga would have to be practiced while lucid dreaming, I'm just not sure at all. I do know that the dreaming body can be accessed with the
physical body, and vice versa, so, maybe something resembling standard Yoga might work, in the Second Attention. Because both physical and dreaming bodies
both have the same chakras, except in a different order, you would think that there would be a Yoga for both, at least I hope so.
One thing that I forgot to mention was that there are changes in perspective that are caused by this switching of chakra positions that has already been noted
by Castaneda. Because, the Root and Throat chakra have switched positions, words have power in dreaming, as they can control dream reality. The Crown and Navel
chakra switch so that the dream becomes the mind, this is why we act like completely different people in
different dreams. The Heart and Power chakras switch to make power the heart of dreaming and sharing dreams the most powerful thing that you can do with it.
Lastly, and most importantly, the Thymic chakra, which is our connection with death, is switched with the Brow chakra, so that the insight we get from dreaming
actually comes from our past lives, from the part of us that died. This is why Castaneda said that "death is an advisor."
It seems to become obvious that we have had past lives when you open up the chakras of your dreaming body, what CC called "crossing the gates of
dreaming." I don't know if anyone else ever saw this in dreaming, but we carry the dormant energy body from our past life with us. Because it is
totally dormant, it looks like a corpse when the energy is interpreted, and it is very strange to know that we keep possession of it. Eventually, the energy
body that manifests as the physical body will go dormant and the physical body will die. The next body that will become us is the dreaming body, it will take
the lead in the next life, and so on.
Nice stuff.
In essence one could say that Nagual Seership is a form of Yoga (union) with the universe that surround us, even if the target is slightly different.
It's an evolving path. New seers are going beyond their traditional limitations.
Hatha yoga (the most popular branch of yoga) is only indirectly physical. Meaning: The point of the postures is stimulating the chakras, making the body
strong, firm and free of energetic debris in order to achieve higher meditation. Pranayamas (breathing exercises), mantras and mudras (body locks in several
places of the body such as the throat, anus and positions of hands and face) aims to this as well.
The problem is that the vast majority of yoga practitioners are not in it to get heightened awareness but for health and relaxation.
Kundalini Yoga on the other hand aims directly to empowering the energy body in order to reach the subtle spheres.
Anyone serious in yogic practice does some form of kundalini yoga. And anyone serious in spiritual evolution does everything that helps, regardless of the
traditions.
So, in short, nagual procedures for developing the double and yogic techniques are naturally compatible. Let's not forget that there is even such a thing
as "Dream Yoga", an approach closer to lucid dreaming than shamanic dreaming (because it works mainly within the realm of the mind) used in order
to transcend duality.
Thanks, I'm definitely not an expert on Yoga, so I don't know how much inorganic energy can be cultivated by physical practices, if any. It may be
that Inorganic Yoga would have to be practiced while lucid dreaming, I'm just not sure at all. I do know that the dreaming body can be accessed with the
physical body, and vice versa, so, maybe something resembling standard Yoga might work, in the Second Attention. Because both physical and dreaming bodies
both have the same chakras, except in a different order, you would think that there would be a Yoga for both, at least I hope so.
One thing that I forgot to mention was that there are changes in perspective that are caused by this switching of chakra positions that has already been noted
by Castaneda. Because, the Root and Throat chakra have switched positions, words have power in dreaming, as they can control dream reality. The Crown and Navel
chakra switch so that the dream becomes the mind, this is why we act like completely different people in
different dreams. The Heart and Power chakras switch to make power the heart of dreaming and sharing dreams the most powerful thing that you can do with it.
Lastly, and most importantly, the Thymic chakra, which is our connection with death, is switched with the Brow chakra, so that the insight we get from dreaming
actually comes from our past lives, from the part of us that died. This is why Castaneda said that "death is an advisor."
It seems to become obvious that we have had past lives when you open up the chakras of your dreaming body, what CC called "crossing the gates of
dreaming." I don't know if anyone else ever saw this in dreaming, but we carry the dormant energy body from our past life with us. Because it is
totally dormant, it looks like a corpse when the energy is interpreted, and it is very strange to know that we keep possession of it. Eventually, the energy
body that manifests as the physical body will go dormant and the physical body will die. The next body that will become us is the dreaming body, it will take
the lead in the next life, and so on.