01-30-2007, 12:00 AM
Bob ... I don't see the Grail as a symbol for the New testament. Let's put it this way, it might be, but there is so much information out there and I have done lots of reasearch on it. You can't approach from making a conclusion like that.
I don't think it's a literal object, but a powerful archetype for all of our aspirations, whether Christian or non-Christian.
The story was originally a Celtic Myth and changed or was adapted as Britain's Celts became Christianized, but the story was not the vehicle. There was already a plate and a hamper in 13 Treasures of Britain Was one of those the original Grail? Nobody knows!
Because the Bardic tradition of Wales and Cornwall is an oral tradition. It's evolved all the way from pre-Christian times until the Middle Ages when Cretien De Troyes wrote it down as a Medieval Romance.
It is an Archetype for the Eternal Feminine and the Receptive.
How much reading have you done into Grail lore?
I've done a lot of research and it's pretty baffling, so I don't see how a fine collection of scriptures can prove out anything.
The Grail seems to be connected somehow to Mary Magdelene, and the lost connection of what appears to have been one of Christ's greatest apostles, whose memory was shamelessly quashed by the early church as it did not fit a paradigm they were trying to create.
Now I'm not a big fan of "Holy Blood, Holy Grail", and The Da Vinci Code is just a Hollywoodized version of the story But there are some facts there. One author I recommend is Margaret Starbird.
I've also read a lot about the Cathars who were rumored to have it at one point.
I am reading a book now by French author Jean Markle about the connection between the Cathar's and the Grail. It's cleared up a lot of myths, but doesn't draw any conclusions. For example the Nazi-Grail connection appears to be fabricated, and a lot of the local legends were encouraged by the local tourist bureau. So some of the leads are real and some are dead ends.
All I can say for sure that the Grail is a sovereign mystery, that will always receed from the seeker veiled by mists.
There is a wonderful Grail seeker story in Babylon 5 where David Warner plays a Grail seeker of the far distant future.
As he dies the Grail is revealed to him, as it is to all true Knights of the Grail.
I don't think it's a literal object, but a powerful archetype for all of our aspirations, whether Christian or non-Christian.
The story was originally a Celtic Myth and changed or was adapted as Britain's Celts became Christianized, but the story was not the vehicle. There was already a plate and a hamper in 13 Treasures of Britain Was one of those the original Grail? Nobody knows!
Because the Bardic tradition of Wales and Cornwall is an oral tradition. It's evolved all the way from pre-Christian times until the Middle Ages when Cretien De Troyes wrote it down as a Medieval Romance.
It is an Archetype for the Eternal Feminine and the Receptive.
How much reading have you done into Grail lore?
I've done a lot of research and it's pretty baffling, so I don't see how a fine collection of scriptures can prove out anything.
The Grail seems to be connected somehow to Mary Magdelene, and the lost connection of what appears to have been one of Christ's greatest apostles, whose memory was shamelessly quashed by the early church as it did not fit a paradigm they were trying to create.
Now I'm not a big fan of "Holy Blood, Holy Grail", and The Da Vinci Code is just a Hollywoodized version of the story But there are some facts there. One author I recommend is Margaret Starbird.
I've also read a lot about the Cathars who were rumored to have it at one point.
I am reading a book now by French author Jean Markle about the connection between the Cathar's and the Grail. It's cleared up a lot of myths, but doesn't draw any conclusions. For example the Nazi-Grail connection appears to be fabricated, and a lot of the local legends were encouraged by the local tourist bureau. So some of the leads are real and some are dead ends.
All I can say for sure that the Grail is a sovereign mystery, that will always receed from the seeker veiled by mists.
There is a wonderful Grail seeker story in Babylon 5 where David Warner plays a Grail seeker of the far distant future.
As he dies the Grail is revealed to him, as it is to all true Knights of the Grail.