09-06-2005, 12:00 AM
Abramelim,
croc's not worried; ever seen a croc worried???
You said:
"Yeah, I understand that. But if you read a little bit more of the Bible and the Qur'an, you'll see that a god is being portrayed who punishes those who act against his will and his laws. The laws he made up.
What you now call cause and effect, an emotionless natural mechanism, was viewed a bit different back then."
Of course it was viewed differently; it still is viewed differently today, as you can easily see for yourself, all around you in your daily affairs.
As for the books you mention above, croc here has read them both to understand what you're saying. But croc here also understands that the said laws made up by the said portrayed God, are exactly that: laws ascribed to a portrayed God.
And who does portray such God? The men who wrote, rewrote and keep rewriting and adjusting the said books, so as to fulfil their own goals.
What is utterly sad to this croc, is to watch a legion of human beings constantly bragging and prouding themselves so much about their status of "intelligent" beings, swallowing, digesting and shitting off all the indoctrination of those books, without for a single moment, exercizing any "intelligent" pondering upon any of it...
Little wonder then, that such cause-effect mechanism is still viewed and believed today to be an act coming from a punishing God... when, all the while, the same folks whom portray such God, are constantly bragging about it being infinitely forgiving... nhaaa....cc...nhac, nhac, nhac, nhac, nhac...(croc's laughter)
Anyway, the offer stands. There's interesting info on the subject for you to scrutinize, shall you feel like peweking at it - and NO, it's not croc here selling or propagandizing anything. The info is just that: info.
Check out "The Book of Spirits" as written by a french chap under the pseudonym of Allan Kardec. The mentioned system of belief, is "Spiritism", which is defined as a scientific-phylosophic doctrine of moral consequences.
Again, no advertizing. But info is everywhere and it's up to the individual to extract from it whatever it might have of a worth to be extracted - if anything at all, obviously.
nhac nhac..
croco
croc's not worried; ever seen a croc worried???
You said:
"Yeah, I understand that. But if you read a little bit more of the Bible and the Qur'an, you'll see that a god is being portrayed who punishes those who act against his will and his laws. The laws he made up.
What you now call cause and effect, an emotionless natural mechanism, was viewed a bit different back then."
Of course it was viewed differently; it still is viewed differently today, as you can easily see for yourself, all around you in your daily affairs.
As for the books you mention above, croc here has read them both to understand what you're saying. But croc here also understands that the said laws made up by the said portrayed God, are exactly that: laws ascribed to a portrayed God.
And who does portray such God? The men who wrote, rewrote and keep rewriting and adjusting the said books, so as to fulfil their own goals.
What is utterly sad to this croc, is to watch a legion of human beings constantly bragging and prouding themselves so much about their status of "intelligent" beings, swallowing, digesting and shitting off all the indoctrination of those books, without for a single moment, exercizing any "intelligent" pondering upon any of it...
Little wonder then, that such cause-effect mechanism is still viewed and believed today to be an act coming from a punishing God... when, all the while, the same folks whom portray such God, are constantly bragging about it being infinitely forgiving... nhaaa....cc...nhac, nhac, nhac, nhac, nhac...(croc's laughter)
Anyway, the offer stands. There's interesting info on the subject for you to scrutinize, shall you feel like peweking at it - and NO, it's not croc here selling or propagandizing anything. The info is just that: info.
Check out "The Book of Spirits" as written by a french chap under the pseudonym of Allan Kardec. The mentioned system of belief, is "Spiritism", which is defined as a scientific-phylosophic doctrine of moral consequences.
Again, no advertizing. But info is everywhere and it's up to the individual to extract from it whatever it might have of a worth to be extracted - if anything at all, obviously.
nhac nhac..
croco