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Void - Emptines - Mu
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Coming from form through
sensing perceiving conceptualizing and ego/self awareness 
tonal reality emergence 

Tonal is the painting nagual is canvas 

nagual is the night - the darkness - Tonal the day - the light
In the darkest darkness is the black Tezcalipoca 
The original void that everything manifests from 

Don Juan stress inner silence, because the inner conversation upholds the tonal. 

You could open up to listening to the Spirit (first) then the silence in between an the sounds this leads to touching emptiness 

the zen way is to relax more and more into what is, without the inner conversation going.
to reach samadhi - an AP of just being very relaxed awake and sleeping deep at the same time 
It can be said that this is being at one with emptiness as ones mind is empty of thoughts yet it is full of what is (all around) 
On a deeper state all that is around disappears as well - it is difficult to recall though, cos time also disappears.  

A zen koan:
Does a dog have Buddha-nature?
A monk asked Zhàozhōu, "Does a dog have Buddha nature or not?" Zhaozhou said, "Wú".
("Zhaozhou" is rendered as "Chao-chou" in Wade-Giles, and pronounced "Joshu" in Japanese. "Wu" appears as "mu" in Japanese, meaning "no", "not", "nonbeing", or "without" in English. This is a fragment of Case #1 of the Wúménguān. However, another koan presents a longer version, in which Zhaozhou answered "yes" in response to the same question asked by a different monk: see Case #18 of the Book of Serenity.)

This very classic in Rinzai tradition koan points to the state of mind of emptiness - Mu:

Wiki on Mu

Meanings
Some English translation equivalents of wú or mu 無 are:

"no", "not", "nothing", or "without"[2]
nothing, not, nothingness, un-, is not, has not, not any[3]
[1] Nonexistence; nonbeing; not having; a lack of, without. [2] A negative. [3] Caused to be nonexistent. [4] Impossible; lacking reason or cause. [5] Pure human awareness, prior to experience or knowledge. This meaning is used especially by the Chan school. [6] The 'original nonbeing' from which being is produced in the Daode jing.[4]

In modern Chinese, Japanese and Korean it is commonly used in combination words as a prefix to indicate the absence of something, e.g., Chinese: 无线; pinyin: wúxiàn / musen (無線) / museon (무선 ) for "wireless".[5] In Classical Chinese, it is an impersonal existential verb meaning "not have".[6]
The same character is also used in Classical Chinese as a prohibitive particle, though in this case it is more properly written Chinese: 毋; pinyin: wú.[7]

This Mu is the dark sea of awareness. 

Hmmm 
This is coming away from void is it not? The thing is that the void is a feeling to reality, it is how I experienced Mu while meditating. 
A few times in Dreaming and meditation I have been in a complete dark emptiness - another form of emptiness?
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