07-09-2011, 12:00 AM
Naturyl wrote:
This is a description of an "experience" I had some time ago, written down a couple of hours afterward:
I have bad news. I just got killed by Zen.
It happened during meditation, when a realization occurred:
You are already awake, you just think you're sleeping, and that's the imaginary "veil" that doesn't really exist and never did. It's really the most hilarious thing - there is no world, no horrors, no joys, no you, and no me.
Just this. This, without qualification, completely clear, completely real, completely absolute, and completely without anybody doing anything anywhere. Not one thing existing or happening, just absolute timeless, spaceless clarity. No self. Nothing to cling to, nothing to fear.
You can't fake this. The idea of faking this is absurd and hilarious. It would be accurate to say I had a realization about an hour ago, except that there wasn't any me to have it.
Isn't that about the craziest thing?
I share this for no other reason than to encourage you to keep practicing. You can wake up from the imaginary sleep and open your eyes for the first time - but they are no longer "your" eyes. They aren't even eyes, because there's nobody seeing and nothing to see. There is only the radiant clarity of immediate awareness. Everything is suddenly REAL, because there are no things. Separation and division are revealed as completely imaginary.
Just like that. Bing... awake. Mind-blowing (literally), but absolutely no big deal. Completely ordinary, because it's never been otherwise, even though you thought it was. You might laugh at everything for hours.
Good description Naturyl. I can't say I've had that exact experience but many of the things you mentioned hold true with some experiences I have had.
This is it. Can't be faked. Already awake but don't know it. The familiarity of an experience never before experienced. Etc.
I once had the thought that God had been playing a practical joke on us until a certain moment.
This is a description of an "experience" I had some time ago, written down a couple of hours afterward:
I have bad news. I just got killed by Zen.
It happened during meditation, when a realization occurred:
You are already awake, you just think you're sleeping, and that's the imaginary "veil" that doesn't really exist and never did. It's really the most hilarious thing - there is no world, no horrors, no joys, no you, and no me.
Just this. This, without qualification, completely clear, completely real, completely absolute, and completely without anybody doing anything anywhere. Not one thing existing or happening, just absolute timeless, spaceless clarity. No self. Nothing to cling to, nothing to fear.
You can't fake this. The idea of faking this is absurd and hilarious. It would be accurate to say I had a realization about an hour ago, except that there wasn't any me to have it.
Isn't that about the craziest thing?
I share this for no other reason than to encourage you to keep practicing. You can wake up from the imaginary sleep and open your eyes for the first time - but they are no longer "your" eyes. They aren't even eyes, because there's nobody seeing and nothing to see. There is only the radiant clarity of immediate awareness. Everything is suddenly REAL, because there are no things. Separation and division are revealed as completely imaginary.
Just like that. Bing... awake. Mind-blowing (literally), but absolutely no big deal. Completely ordinary, because it's never been otherwise, even though you thought it was. You might laugh at everything for hours.
Good description Naturyl. I can't say I've had that exact experience but many of the things you mentioned hold true with some experiences I have had.
This is it. Can't be faked. Already awake but don't know it. The familiarity of an experience never before experienced. Etc.
I once had the thought that God had been playing a practical joke on us until a certain moment.