06-22-2010, 12:01 AM
ninth octave wrote: Yeah, there's a point, and I've experienced it first hand.It'sd to put into words though very liberating.
Tiff, what was liberating for you?The way the mind had settled upon things and taken them as truths, and then to see this was not so. The liberating aspect was that what had never been questioned before, now was being questioned, and the content that was being questioned (experience of everyday phenomena) was like the fabric that held perception of things together, and to have that undone was like having the stitches taken out of a garment, its no longer a garment. And from there, new understandings emerge from the realizations. A sort of domino effect. The previous logic acted like an anchor, so to release that anchor makes available new perceptions by not being weighed down by old, accepted views of reality.
It goes much deeper from there, and the implications are vast. Some are... my feelings don't get hurt so easily, I can take alot of dislike from others. I don't care if people agree with me or disagree with me. I'm not looking for "an answer to it all", nor am I dismissing curiosity. All these are tied to a network of logic that operates on essentialism. That we are all "individuals" with essences interacting. When we feel so seperated from everything else, we fight it, feel angry and insecure, etc. The only thing that seperates us from others is how we think, so to change the thinking changes this idea of separation. Its thought only that distinguishes objects. All objects (animate and inanimate) are inter-dependent. We don't need to take anyone's word for it we can see this ourselves if we investigate what is actually occurring.
And I did get a very profound answer in the form of perceptual experiences, an intrinsicness "underneath" everything. So it was not like I had to rest upon the feeling I will never understand the mystery. I am tasting the mystery directly.
How about you? I know you have been working with this too. Are you also finding it liberating?
Tiff, what was liberating for you?The way the mind had settled upon things and taken them as truths, and then to see this was not so. The liberating aspect was that what had never been questioned before, now was being questioned, and the content that was being questioned (experience of everyday phenomena) was like the fabric that held perception of things together, and to have that undone was like having the stitches taken out of a garment, its no longer a garment. And from there, new understandings emerge from the realizations. A sort of domino effect. The previous logic acted like an anchor, so to release that anchor makes available new perceptions by not being weighed down by old, accepted views of reality.
It goes much deeper from there, and the implications are vast. Some are... my feelings don't get hurt so easily, I can take alot of dislike from others. I don't care if people agree with me or disagree with me. I'm not looking for "an answer to it all", nor am I dismissing curiosity. All these are tied to a network of logic that operates on essentialism. That we are all "individuals" with essences interacting. When we feel so seperated from everything else, we fight it, feel angry and insecure, etc. The only thing that seperates us from others is how we think, so to change the thinking changes this idea of separation. Its thought only that distinguishes objects. All objects (animate and inanimate) are inter-dependent. We don't need to take anyone's word for it we can see this ourselves if we investigate what is actually occurring.
And I did get a very profound answer in the form of perceptual experiences, an intrinsicness "underneath" everything. So it was not like I had to rest upon the feeling I will never understand the mystery. I am tasting the mystery directly.
How about you? I know you have been working with this too. Are you also finding it liberating?