07-06-2010, 12:03 AM
nemo wrote:Tiff wrote:"I have been emphasizing from the beginning the need to be clear about what we mean. The time for ambiguity is past. The supposed advantages of ambiguity or exaggeration must be let go. When I say we need to to let go what we know I am speaking about speculating. So much of what we think is nothing but speculation, arbitrary thoughts. What would we be left with if we isolated all the speculation and admitted we don't know anything about that?"~Lex
Well said Lex. It may seem to some that we are doing our own speculating, but in truth Nagarjuna's work that has been presented here is exposing the speculation as the flawed logic it is. Yet it's embraced as sound logic, by everyone at some point in time.
Nagarjuna does not conclude what the mystery is. He just shows,...not this, not that, not neither, not both.
Hogwash! Existence is about doing, you two even with this very clear non-speculative understanding are still subject to the laws of physics and the laws of man. Why do you both avoid talking about that.
Hey nemo, ok lets talk about it. What do you feel I have avoided or misunderstood about existence and doing? I need more input from you though, because imo I haven't avoided anything.
Well said Lex. It may seem to some that we are doing our own speculating, but in truth Nagarjuna's work that has been presented here is exposing the speculation as the flawed logic it is. Yet it's embraced as sound logic, by everyone at some point in time.
Nagarjuna does not conclude what the mystery is. He just shows,...not this, not that, not neither, not both.
Hogwash! Existence is about doing, you two even with this very clear non-speculative understanding are still subject to the laws of physics and the laws of man. Why do you both avoid talking about that.
Hey nemo, ok lets talk about it. What do you feel I have avoided or misunderstood about existence and doing? I need more input from you though, because imo I haven't avoided anything.