07-16-2010, 12:03 AM
Gonzo wrote:
Garrison Keelor once said something like, "We are juicy beings", as indeed we are...mostly water - the whole business of being human is a senuous experience and I suspect one of the reasons we are here is to enjoy that.
It dawns on me Gonzo just how much you love this sensual approach so I just wanted to add that I still believe you are grossly misinterpreting Nagarjuna (I wouldn't say it if I didn't believe it was so) I even went back to reread my words in the event I was being a drama king (lol, just kidding).
Here's what I'd say though. Nagarjuna can help one enjoy the sensual experience even more. So that's why I conclude you have been grossly misinterpreting him because you seem to view him as so far removed from sensuality...and true he does not speak directly about it, but I have been saying for a few posts now that its not about giving anything up in terms of what we do action-wise, such as enjoying sensual pleasures. What's let go of are the types of views that would actually inhibit the enjoyment of our experiences.
So maybe its not that you are consciously not letting the new in, but I still feel that after I tell you Nagarjuna is not about giving anything up, you proceed as if he were. As if he was removed from sensual experience. So you base this on how you perceive him, but I tell you I have read him and gotten results that do not add up to what you conclude. What he writes is not a way of life, a way to live. He strictly is targeting the entrenched logic, helping us up-root it, and then one can be free of that. And again I add, the logic up-rooted is the very inhibiting kind.
Garrison Keelor once said something like, "We are juicy beings", as indeed we are...mostly water - the whole business of being human is a senuous experience and I suspect one of the reasons we are here is to enjoy that.
It dawns on me Gonzo just how much you love this sensual approach so I just wanted to add that I still believe you are grossly misinterpreting Nagarjuna (I wouldn't say it if I didn't believe it was so) I even went back to reread my words in the event I was being a drama king (lol, just kidding).
Here's what I'd say though. Nagarjuna can help one enjoy the sensual experience even more. So that's why I conclude you have been grossly misinterpreting him because you seem to view him as so far removed from sensuality...and true he does not speak directly about it, but I have been saying for a few posts now that its not about giving anything up in terms of what we do action-wise, such as enjoying sensual pleasures. What's let go of are the types of views that would actually inhibit the enjoyment of our experiences.
So maybe its not that you are consciously not letting the new in, but I still feel that after I tell you Nagarjuna is not about giving anything up, you proceed as if he were. As if he was removed from sensual experience. So you base this on how you perceive him, but I tell you I have read him and gotten results that do not add up to what you conclude. What he writes is not a way of life, a way to live. He strictly is targeting the entrenched logic, helping us up-root it, and then one can be free of that. And again I add, the logic up-rooted is the very inhibiting kind.