Emptiness and Objects

[Tiff]

Oh and let's not forget Asiris...even though she deleted all her posts she cannot remove the quotes of her words in our posts here and our content referring her discussions. This idea of disappearing by deleting posts,...once you have interacted, you have shaped the interaction and trying to disappear later, you can't, so this is also an example of interdependency, how exchanges are whole and complete within phenomena. This idea of removing oneself, I remember that was a big topic at PP...to remove oneself from the interaction. Truly everything is here, there is nothing to remove, no need to attempt to remove a previous action. You cannot be, no matter how hard you tried to, no more or less empty then anything else.



Neither mother Teresa or Charles Mansion is any more or less empty. Neither a mountain or a black hole is more or less empty. So removing oneself from interaction, or not removing oneself from interaction...no more or less empty. Talking or silence no more or less empty.



So what are we striving for? maybe some would say. What's left to do if all we do doesn't make us any different? Ignorance and enlightenment leave much much work for us to do. If we are seeing in so many ways incorrectly, we need to take all our time to see how things really are. It doesn't happen overnight. Even after something is realized, it has to be continually reinforced.



And if anyone reading this agrees with me, it'd sure be nice to hear from you I don't mind hearing from those who disagree, I'm just saying, if you do agree, or even not sure, by all means lend your voice to add dimension. How many of you are familiar with emptiness in Buddhism, for example? Of all the Zen topics at this forum, Lex has been the only one to start one on this. Neither he nor I invented it, its been in Buddhist understanding for centuries since Sakyamuni.