Emptiness and Objects

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Gonzo wrote:One of the things missing is joy. The other is lack of sensuality. I've said before, I'm here for the mud, the blood and the beer, the red wine, the raw steak, and the cigar. It's impossible to imagine the awakened ones, as currently portrayed, engaging in any sensual pleasures, rather they eschew them. The same is true of enjoying material things. That's not my idea of enlightenment, and in a way, one reason for not studying Nagarjuna.

Again, I don't know why you would conclude this. I see it as opposite. I have felt really spiritually enlightened feelings and they are orgasmic. Haven't you seen that look on Sakyamuni's face, lol.