Emptiness and Objects

[Gonzo]

Tiff wrote:Gonzo, where does essential Zen text explicitly state there is no such thing as Buddha-nature? I doubt it does and rather this is merely your interpreted conclusion. Even upon reading what you quote here I see no negation of the Buddha-nature.Ya got me. It doesn't. It is implied, however, imo, when it is stated frequently that all beings have Buddha Nature. So, as with awakening, it's not something to be accomplished since it already is.



And, btw...someone somewhere stated that the proper translation of "Buddha" was "the awakened one". If there's no such thing as awakening, etc...easy syllogism.





There's a neat Haiku that's relevant here:
Not yet having become a Buddha

This ancient pine-tree

Idly dreaming.

Tiff wrote:And, according to TBCR (based on what you tell me), enlightenment is not awakened to, it just IS in all (sentient beings). So does this not point to no essential, individual and thus separate "I" if in each "I" are all that are enlightened? "I alone am the honored one" is reference to the permanent Buddha-nature. It has no essence to make it separate from anything. It is empty of essence and permanent in nature. No true, no false. Beyond dual perception.Good point. Am I being hoist on me own petard here? Heh.