07-23-2010, 12:05 AM
“The new seers seem to have been very abstract,” I commented. “They sound like modern day philosophers.”
“No. The new seers were terribly practical men,” he replied. “they weren’t involved in concocting rational theories.”
He said, (DJ) the the ancient seers were the ones who were the abstract thinkers. They built monumental edifices of abstractions proper to them and their time. And just like the modern day philosophers, they were not at all in control of their concatenations. The new seers on the other hand, were imbued with practicality, they were able to see a flux of emanations and to see how men and other living beings utilize them to construct their perceivable world.
Don Juan explained that the new seers discovered the transition period is the time when the deepest learning takes place, and that it is also the tie when warriors must be supervised and explanations must be given to them so that can evaluate them properly. If no explanations (rational)) are given to them before they enter into the left side, they will be great sorcerers but poor seers, as the ancient Toltecs were.
I am outlining the order in which the new seers arranged the truths about awareness, so it will serve you as a map, a map that you will have to corroborate with your seeing, but not with your eyes.”
“Everybody falls prey to the mistake that seeing is done with the eyes.”
When seers see, something explains (rational) everything as the new alignment takes place,” he continued. “ It’s a voice that tells them in their ear what’s what. If that voice is not present, what the seer is engaged in isn’t seeing.”
“Seers have to be methodical, rational beings, paragons of sobriety, and at the same time they must shy away from those qualities in order to be completely free and open to the wonders and mysteries of existence.” (DJ giving eg. of contradictions)
Excerpts from Fire From Within.
Castaneda thought of the New seers as philosophers but as can be seen from this DJ did not care too much for the abstract thinking of the ancient seers. When speaking with you Nemo about these things as I have been doing, it is as if I keep interrupting you as build rational edifices of theory. When I present rational that is not theoretical you take refuge in the abstract. Now I am not judging but it seems you have more in common with the ancient seers.
He said, (DJ) the the ancient seers were the ones who were the abstract thinkers. They built monumental edifices of abstractions ("there are also entities and these entities are separate and that these separate entities have been created by this multiverse"nemo) proper to them and their time. And just like the modern day philosophers, they were not at all in control of their concatenations. The new seers on the other hand, were imbued with practicality, they were able to see a flux of emanations and to see how men and other living beings utilize them to construct their perceivable world.
I personally do not care for the term emanations at all. But I do see this flux as does NJ and with the help of a NJ see how they are used to “construct the perceivable world”, what I am calling the notion of existence.
“No. The new seers were terribly practical men,” he replied. “they weren’t involved in concocting rational theories.”
He said, (DJ) the the ancient seers were the ones who were the abstract thinkers. They built monumental edifices of abstractions proper to them and their time. And just like the modern day philosophers, they were not at all in control of their concatenations. The new seers on the other hand, were imbued with practicality, they were able to see a flux of emanations and to see how men and other living beings utilize them to construct their perceivable world.
Don Juan explained that the new seers discovered the transition period is the time when the deepest learning takes place, and that it is also the tie when warriors must be supervised and explanations must be given to them so that can evaluate them properly. If no explanations (rational)) are given to them before they enter into the left side, they will be great sorcerers but poor seers, as the ancient Toltecs were.
I am outlining the order in which the new seers arranged the truths about awareness, so it will serve you as a map, a map that you will have to corroborate with your seeing, but not with your eyes.”
“Everybody falls prey to the mistake that seeing is done with the eyes.”
When seers see, something explains (rational) everything as the new alignment takes place,” he continued. “ It’s a voice that tells them in their ear what’s what. If that voice is not present, what the seer is engaged in isn’t seeing.”
“Seers have to be methodical, rational beings, paragons of sobriety, and at the same time they must shy away from those qualities in order to be completely free and open to the wonders and mysteries of existence.” (DJ giving eg. of contradictions)
Excerpts from Fire From Within.
Castaneda thought of the New seers as philosophers but as can be seen from this DJ did not care too much for the abstract thinking of the ancient seers. When speaking with you Nemo about these things as I have been doing, it is as if I keep interrupting you as build rational edifices of theory. When I present rational that is not theoretical you take refuge in the abstract. Now I am not judging but it seems you have more in common with the ancient seers.
He said, (DJ) the the ancient seers were the ones who were the abstract thinkers. They built monumental edifices of abstractions ("there are also entities and these entities are separate and that these separate entities have been created by this multiverse"nemo) proper to them and their time. And just like the modern day philosophers, they were not at all in control of their concatenations. The new seers on the other hand, were imbued with practicality, they were able to see a flux of emanations and to see how men and other living beings utilize them to construct their perceivable world.
I personally do not care for the term emanations at all. But I do see this flux as does NJ and with the help of a NJ see how they are used to “construct the perceivable world”, what I am calling the notion of existence.