07-28-2010, 12:07 AM
Gonzo,
I remember a while back...many posts ago, you said the perciever and percieved must always be. This is not a direct quote but basically what you were saying.
I propose this, there is no separation of perceiver and perceived. The perceiver IS the perceived and the perceived IS the the one who perceives it, they are one. The "out there" and "in here" are the same. Identity of "a perceiver who perceives 'other things' " only creates the appearance of separation because of the act of reflecting in this manner. Such reflecting is not a permanent stream of consciousness, that is, it can be let go of, for a few seconds or even longer which is of course the goal of practitioners seeking to get beyond the realization of duality.
I remember a while back...many posts ago, you said the perciever and percieved must always be. This is not a direct quote but basically what you were saying.
I propose this, there is no separation of perceiver and perceived. The perceiver IS the perceived and the perceived IS the the one who perceives it, they are one. The "out there" and "in here" are the same. Identity of "a perceiver who perceives 'other things' " only creates the appearance of separation because of the act of reflecting in this manner. Such reflecting is not a permanent stream of consciousness, that is, it can be let go of, for a few seconds or even longer which is of course the goal of practitioners seeking to get beyond the realization of duality.

