08-31-2010, 12:00 AM
Wei Shan Yang wrote:
"Its only a perceptual experience of such (so the potential to be completely free is available)."
name me an experience that
doesn't include perception...
"And yes it helps us evolve in the relative sense."
The whole idea of evolution is fulcrumed on the perception of pinpointed occurrences relative to other pinpointed occurrences of relative beings and other
relative phenomena-ing in linear time and is a paradigm created by relative beings to describe what they think they see...which is elephant talk for: how can one evolve in an un-relative sense?
"I was embracing my childhood "wounds" as powerful imprints that helped me become strong. "
That's not how I look at it, if I were to put it in similar terms I would say something more along the lines of "my childhood wounds suck! Damn those conditions coupled with my genetic tendencies held this deliciousness back for so many years, and still puts a pinch on now and again, OUCH that HURTS!" and by experiencing that where I am atness as the feelings occur a some while later I can laugh and sing somehow. But that is a reduction--on with complicated life!
"That was how I viewed things then. You can see now my view has changed."
No I can't see that wei shan, I am reading that you say your view has changed but since I have very short term experience with you I haven't been there to witness that.
"When you have no pity, you can experience unyielding compassion in that moment."
What good is a breast that doesn't yield? When no milk flows how's the babe to grow?
" If you don't release your identity with wounds completely, you become a righteous crusader (for the wronged victims). Nothing wrong with that, but there's more for us, to be completely free."
not this not that without this without that
"And by no means do I think it happens over night nor is it something you don't constantly have to work at. But from my own experience, shifts do happen suddenly, granted its probably initially due to years of effort (like that which you express here) that finally give way to a breakthrough."
I agree that shifts can happen suddenly, but they won't become integrated in the experience if the work isn't being done leading to imbalance in one's person.
"And once you see it happens suddenly, you know future expereinces can happen this way and you intend it so. That is, you prefer the swiftness and wait for it because you intended it."
Yeah it can be motivating.
"And yes this is my perspective and that only which is from experience, and I realize you have yours as well."
Yes
"Its only a perceptual experience of such (so the potential to be completely free is available)."
name me an experience that
doesn't include perception...
"And yes it helps us evolve in the relative sense."
The whole idea of evolution is fulcrumed on the perception of pinpointed occurrences relative to other pinpointed occurrences of relative beings and other
relative phenomena-ing in linear time and is a paradigm created by relative beings to describe what they think they see...which is elephant talk for: how can one evolve in an un-relative sense?
"I was embracing my childhood "wounds" as powerful imprints that helped me become strong. "
That's not how I look at it, if I were to put it in similar terms I would say something more along the lines of "my childhood wounds suck! Damn those conditions coupled with my genetic tendencies held this deliciousness back for so many years, and still puts a pinch on now and again, OUCH that HURTS!" and by experiencing that where I am atness as the feelings occur a some while later I can laugh and sing somehow. But that is a reduction--on with complicated life!
"That was how I viewed things then. You can see now my view has changed."
No I can't see that wei shan, I am reading that you say your view has changed but since I have very short term experience with you I haven't been there to witness that.
"When you have no pity, you can experience unyielding compassion in that moment."
What good is a breast that doesn't yield? When no milk flows how's the babe to grow?
" If you don't release your identity with wounds completely, you become a righteous crusader (for the wronged victims). Nothing wrong with that, but there's more for us, to be completely free."
not this not that without this without that
"And by no means do I think it happens over night nor is it something you don't constantly have to work at. But from my own experience, shifts do happen suddenly, granted its probably initially due to years of effort (like that which you express here) that finally give way to a breakthrough."
I agree that shifts can happen suddenly, but they won't become integrated in the experience if the work isn't being done leading to imbalance in one's person.
"And once you see it happens suddenly, you know future expereinces can happen this way and you intend it so. That is, you prefer the swiftness and wait for it because you intended it."
Yeah it can be motivating.
"And yes this is my perspective and that only which is from experience, and I realize you have yours as well."
Yes