01-23-2014, 12:00 AM
Littlepaw wrote:Julio I am afraid I do not see your logic with this,
'' whites wearing crowns and songs with lyrics like "I believe in whites, I believe in whites, don't no white need a black, etc." ''
White People do have pro white songs but they are white supremacists songs! why would a black person make a white appreciation thread and then post white supremacy videos?
Well, I'll try explaining the logic a bit more thoroughly then in the hopes that it will be more easily understood.
1. Actions should be judged solely on the merits of the actions themselves.
2. When evaluating an action involving person A and person B, we need not know anything about the birth groups of humans A or B in order to judge the action. It is no better or worse for human A to do X to human B than it is for human B to do that same X to human A. I suggest that anyone who does not accept this proposition is promoting elitism and bigotry.
3. Because the qualities of the action does not change based on the birth groups of those involved, we are able to switch the birth groups involved in an action to see if our judment changes. If our judgement does change, than in some way we must be letting our view of the birth groups cloud our judgement.
4. This is the reason for the tactic of switching the birth groups involved. I've been suggesting that this thread is promoting bigotry and trying to show this by pointing out the different perceptions we would have of it were the birth groups involved different. You're use of the term "white supremacist" shows that you do indeed see the bigotry if the same actions occured involving other birth groups.
To answer the last question "Why would a black person make a white appreciation thread and then post white supremacy videos?", I'll say I'd be quite surprised if that happened. The black people I've known have been able to recognize bigotry against them and do not support it. But if they didn't recognize it and did support it, it would be worthwhile to examine why. Men frequently fail to recognize bigotry against them and often support it when it occurs. I claim this is due to media brainwashing of both men and women to not see bigotry against men as bigotry, and to think of such things as positive. Since these beliefs are not only about our self image that was being pushed on us since we were in diapers but also continually foisted on us by the media and peer pressure from nearly everyone we meet we tend to fight dropping them or seeing without them. No matter how obvious the bigotry would be with any other group.
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'' whites wearing crowns and songs with lyrics like "I believe in whites, I believe in whites, don't no white need a black, etc." ''
White People do have pro white songs but they are white supremacists songs! why would a black person make a white appreciation thread and then post white supremacy videos?
Well, I'll try explaining the logic a bit more thoroughly then in the hopes that it will be more easily understood.
1. Actions should be judged solely on the merits of the actions themselves.
2. When evaluating an action involving person A and person B, we need not know anything about the birth groups of humans A or B in order to judge the action. It is no better or worse for human A to do X to human B than it is for human B to do that same X to human A. I suggest that anyone who does not accept this proposition is promoting elitism and bigotry.
3. Because the qualities of the action does not change based on the birth groups of those involved, we are able to switch the birth groups involved in an action to see if our judment changes. If our judgement does change, than in some way we must be letting our view of the birth groups cloud our judgement.
4. This is the reason for the tactic of switching the birth groups involved. I've been suggesting that this thread is promoting bigotry and trying to show this by pointing out the different perceptions we would have of it were the birth groups involved different. You're use of the term "white supremacist" shows that you do indeed see the bigotry if the same actions occured involving other birth groups.
To answer the last question "Why would a black person make a white appreciation thread and then post white supremacy videos?", I'll say I'd be quite surprised if that happened. The black people I've known have been able to recognize bigotry against them and do not support it. But if they didn't recognize it and did support it, it would be worthwhile to examine why. Men frequently fail to recognize bigotry against them and often support it when it occurs. I claim this is due to media brainwashing of both men and women to not see bigotry against men as bigotry, and to think of such things as positive. Since these beliefs are not only about our self image that was being pushed on us since we were in diapers but also continually foisted on us by the media and peer pressure from nearly everyone we meet we tend to fight dropping them or seeing without them. No matter how obvious the bigotry would be with any other group.
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