07-25-2018, 12:00 AM
I wanted to add something to my last post. But you are so fast in responding hehe. I wanted to say that I am aware what I mention in the last paragraph can be taken to be a power object (and that I did not use that word on purpose because it flavours the way I think about it then). I do not think of it as a power object because the power objects I know of are also objects of a different kind. One can create power objects or receive them from others etc and they do not have to have any link to our development/awareness or to our form of energy. Whereas the objects I talk about are like not objects at all. The only reason why we might feel we want the object itself from matter is to link the different realities. And in this sense it could be called a power object, but it is not like the other power objects. You can't get it unless you already have it 
. I would more call it a manifestation object or something lol. It does not have power on its own like a power object can - in the sense like a power place has power of its own. But then, I guess if I think further, the object that is then connected to the energy is changed by it, hmm... maybe and then becomes a personal power object heh.
headache LOL.
Let's try again...
I kinda think that if I get a brilliant ring because my awareness has gotten to this stage of brilliancy, and then someone else takes the ring - given their awareness has not reached that stage so the ring really is not of much use to them. Whereas if you take a powerful object from a shaman - say a drum. You feel the power of the drum and use it regardless of whether you have reaches the state of awareness of that shaman or not. So in this at least I would see a difference.
The object I talk about if I were to write it in the useful way as you do is not: [awareness > power object > user] or [awareness > user] it is just [awareness] or I guess [awareness > representation]. There is no use for it like a witch's mirror or a shaman's drum, there is no user for the object just the person that it is. [awareness > awarer/being
]. (lol we are all awarers hehe).
And yes there is the enjoyment of the symbol of the thing/awareness in its form of matter, as a manifestation in matter. Kinda like if I have a limb in energy it is nice to have it in matter too. I also consider it a work of art.
And yes some might choose to stay more hidden, thing is though only a well trained person would know that this ring is different than the other rings (in the brilliant ring example). It is hidden to all that see and those that see do not need it to see what is there anyway. If the object that has taken on the role of manifesting is lost it will be surely felt deeply by the owner but it will not change/impact the energy/awareness aspect of it.
But there is the issue of practicality hehe, like you say. Wearing a ring is a much more normal thing for our society. I cannot well get myself a multicolored robe to wear everywhere I go. but for certain things maybe I could. Still in our culture that would not only make me stick out like a sore thumb but also not be practical to wear depending on weather etc. I can find however a more subtle way of representing it, if I feel so inclined and maybe with a little help from being inspired.
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Kaomea wrote:To increase mobility and speed, one must become lighter. That might mean traveling without a robe, a backpack, or a staff. It will be an uncomfortable journey to do this.
When speed is needed, expect to operate at a lower skillset. When you need access to more awareness then slow things down. If our mind is very busy with mundane things then there isn't much opportunity to grow awareness.
I agree with this. One should only ask for / bring along what is needed (and this was my point also in the lead post, never meant to imply that one carries things that are useless).
This is also what I see in link to power objects. One can't carry all of that stuff. I kinda travel around a lot and this has become quite obvious to me already on the material level . But it is also true on the inner level...
Thnx for helping me think through/ formulate this stuff a bit better.
. I would more call it a manifestation object or something lol. It does not have power on its own like a power object can - in the sense like a power place has power of its own. But then, I guess if I think further, the object that is then connected to the energy is changed by it, hmm... maybe and then becomes a personal power object heh.headache LOL.
Let's try again...
I kinda think that if I get a brilliant ring because my awareness has gotten to this stage of brilliancy
, and then someone else takes the ring - given their awareness has not reached that stage so the ring really is not of much use to them. Whereas if you take a powerful object from a shaman - say a drum. You feel the power of the drum and use it regardless of whether you have reaches the state of awareness of that shaman or not. So in this at least I would see a difference.The object I talk about if I were to write it in the useful way as you do is not: [awareness > power object > user] or [awareness > user] it is just [awareness] or I guess [awareness > representation]. There is no use for it like a witch's mirror or a shaman's drum, there is no user for the object just the person that it is. [awareness > awarer/being
]. (lol we are all awarers hehe).And yes there is the enjoyment of the symbol of the thing/awareness in its form of matter, as a manifestation in matter. Kinda like if I have a limb in energy it is nice to have it in matter too
. I also consider it a work of art. And yes some might choose to stay more hidden, thing is though only a well trained person would know that this ring is different than the other rings (in the brilliant ring example). It is hidden to all that see and those that see do not need it to see what is there anyway. If the object that has taken on the role of manifesting is lost it will be surely felt deeply by the owner but it will not change/impact the energy/awareness aspect of it.
But there is the issue of practicality hehe, like you say. Wearing a ring is a much more normal thing for our society. I cannot well get myself a multicolored robe to wear everywhere I go. but for certain things maybe I could. Still in our culture that would not only make me stick out like a sore thumb but also not be practical to wear depending on weather etc. I can find however a more subtle way of representing it, if I feel so inclined and maybe with a little help from being inspired
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Kaomea wrote:To increase mobility and speed, one must become lighter. That might mean traveling without a robe, a backpack, or a staff. It will be an uncomfortable journey to do this.
When speed is needed, expect to operate at a lower skillset. When you need access to more awareness then slow things down. If our mind is very busy with mundane things then there isn't much opportunity to grow awareness.
I agree with this. One should only ask for / bring along what is needed (and this was my point also in the lead post, never meant to imply that one carries things that are useless).
This is also what I see in link to power objects. One can't carry all of that stuff
. I kinda travel around a lot and this has become quite obvious to me already on the material level . But it is also true on the inner level... Thnx for helping me think through/ formulate this stuff a bit better
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