07-20-2018, 12:00 AM
Kaomea wrote:
MJ is a tough situation for many. Do you know what they do to pedophiles in prison? They're likely the most judged and hated population. One thing that alarms me is many of them were victims of the same thing.
Lately I've been using an easy model that for me explains why people do bizarre or highly-disapproved-of-by-their-society things. And that's that the energy they're holding in the desire to do them has become greater than the energy they keep in the desire to not do them. I think this might work to explain why everyone does everything but I haven't tested it that far yet.
Using this model, I note where the energy comes from that goes into each category. I see 4 main sources...
1. One's Thoughts - By thinking of something we can rouse ourselves to do it; indeed often people rehearse how to do it in their thoughts.
2. Our Bodies - Just don't eat for 2 weeks and you'll see how the body can influence desire. I once read about some woman who was stranded in the ocean for some time and fortune eventually delivered her a fish. She talked about eating the fish alive, and how weird she thought it was that she actually craved it's eyeballs. When eating it, she found it delicious, especially the eyes. Turns out that there was some vitamin or something like that in the fish's eye, (might be in all fish's eyes, I don't recall that detail), which her body was short on.
3. Our attachments to other people - Mom would be so mad if she saw me do this...
4. Our experiences - This category can be tricky. People often don't understand their experiences and in order to make sense of them, reflect on them. During this reflecting, we'll change and modify the events to see them from other perspectives. I think this is partly why abused children often become abusing adults. As they reflect on their trauma, they sometimes look at it from the perspective of the abuser. They play that role in their heads while trying to understand, and eventually they are adults with children and now are influenced to behave as they think the role of adult dictates.
It's a little easier not to judge when I see things this way. People got the desire to do X, (whatever it is I don't like), from some combination of the above in a way that they were almost definitely completely oblivious to. Eventually this desire overpowered their desire not to do X. If my desire to do X had more energy than my desire not to I'd have ended up doing it too.
On a related note... When I was 20ish I knew someone who was an admitted pedophile. He actually told everyone he knew about it. He said he had the urges but never acted on them. I think part of why he told everyone was so that we would be watchful of him and keep him from ever actually doing anything like that. Another odd fact about him was that he was a hemophiliac. Many years later I happened to see a study online showing a strong correlation between hemophilia and pedophiles. I don't have any guesses as to why that's the case, but it makes me wonder a little bit if some of that energy that goes into their desire on that actually comes directly from their bodies. Again, that makes it a little easier not to judge them.
MJ is a tough situation for many. Do you know what they do to pedophiles in prison? They're likely the most judged and hated population. One thing that alarms me is many of them were victims of the same thing.
Lately I've been using an easy model that for me explains why people do bizarre or highly-disapproved-of-by-their-society things. And that's that the energy they're holding in the desire to do them has become greater than the energy they keep in the desire to not do them. I think this might work to explain why everyone does everything but I haven't tested it that far yet.
Using this model, I note where the energy comes from that goes into each category. I see 4 main sources...
1. One's Thoughts - By thinking of something we can rouse ourselves to do it; indeed often people rehearse how to do it in their thoughts.
2. Our Bodies - Just don't eat for 2 weeks and you'll see how the body can influence desire. I once read about some woman who was stranded in the ocean for some time and fortune eventually delivered her a fish. She talked about eating the fish alive, and how weird she thought it was that she actually craved it's eyeballs. When eating it, she found it delicious, especially the eyes. Turns out that there was some vitamin or something like that in the fish's eye, (might be in all fish's eyes, I don't recall that detail), which her body was short on.
3. Our attachments to other people - Mom would be so mad if she saw me do this...
4. Our experiences - This category can be tricky. People often don't understand their experiences and in order to make sense of them, reflect on them. During this reflecting, we'll change and modify the events to see them from other perspectives. I think this is partly why abused children often become abusing adults. As they reflect on their trauma, they sometimes look at it from the perspective of the abuser. They play that role in their heads while trying to understand, and eventually they are adults with children and now are influenced to behave as they think the role of adult dictates.
It's a little easier not to judge when I see things this way. People got the desire to do X, (whatever it is I don't like), from some combination of the above in a way that they were almost definitely completely oblivious to. Eventually this desire overpowered their desire not to do X. If my desire to do X had more energy than my desire not to I'd have ended up doing it too.
On a related note... When I was 20ish I knew someone who was an admitted pedophile. He actually told everyone he knew about it. He said he had the urges but never acted on them. I think part of why he told everyone was so that we would be watchful of him and keep him from ever actually doing anything like that. Another odd fact about him was that he was a hemophiliac. Many years later I happened to see a study online showing a strong correlation between hemophilia and pedophiles. I don't have any guesses as to why that's the case, but it makes me wonder a little bit if some of that energy that goes into their desire on that actually comes directly from their bodies. Again, that makes it a little easier not to judge them.