12-05-2017, 12:05 AM
Pixie Dust wrote:
glance left wrote:
Personally, I want to simply inwardly merge with "Beatrice" and be done with the whole absurd diverting mess. Externalizing her/it just turns into an exhausting, frustrating wild goose chase that only stops when my impulse energy sputters to nothing. Then, it's the unfortunate "walk of shame" back to square one to recover and try again....hopefully with more internal integrity this time
Beautiful drawing of the tunnel....Gustav Dores I believe did the etchings. Funny thing is, during meditative visions....I more often see a scintillating square tunnel! Go figure.....
Externalizing a creature like Beatrice was the only option for Dante. He didn't know her very well, he had to create and conceptualize her without her input. Merging with something unknown is unpredictable. I wonder how different Dante's tale might have been if he had actually befriended Beatrice.
And if souls do return to take on tonal bodies, might those two entwined beings ever meet again. Such a profound dynamic leaves marks.
She died when she was 24. Dante (depending on what month he was born in) would have been either 24 or 25. He outlived her by 30+ years. They could have been friends. Maybe he would have married her, eventually.
But it wasn't possible. She had married someone else in 1287 (and died in 1290). Dante himself was married in 1285, but even so, Beatrice's death affected him deeply. He saw her in his dreams and, who knows, maybe it was even really her.
From the way he wrote the Paradisio I think it's very clear that he was reinterpreting the idea of Sainthood. Beatrice was uncanonized by the Church, obviously. Beatrice is not a Saint, according to the Church. You cannot buy cards and medals of Beatrice at Catholic bookstores. But Dante thought he knew better.
I think Dante knew better too.
glance left wrote:
Personally, I want to simply inwardly merge with "Beatrice" and be done with the whole absurd diverting mess. Externalizing her/it just turns into an exhausting, frustrating wild goose chase that only stops when my impulse energy sputters to nothing. Then, it's the unfortunate "walk of shame" back to square one to recover and try again....hopefully with more internal integrity this time
Beautiful drawing of the tunnel....Gustav Dores I believe did the etchings. Funny thing is, during meditative visions....I more often see a scintillating square tunnel! Go figure.....Externalizing a creature like Beatrice was the only option for Dante. He didn't know her very well, he had to create and conceptualize her without her input. Merging with something unknown is unpredictable. I wonder how different Dante's tale might have been if he had actually befriended Beatrice.
And if souls do return to take on tonal bodies, might those two entwined beings ever meet again. Such a profound dynamic leaves marks.
She died when she was 24. Dante (depending on what month he was born in) would have been either 24 or 25. He outlived her by 30+ years. They could have been friends. Maybe he would have married her, eventually.
But it wasn't possible. She had married someone else in 1287 (and died in 1290). Dante himself was married in 1285, but even so, Beatrice's death affected him deeply. He saw her in his dreams and, who knows, maybe it was even really her.
From the way he wrote the Paradisio I think it's very clear that he was reinterpreting the idea of Sainthood. Beatrice was uncanonized by the Church, obviously. Beatrice is not a Saint, according to the Church. You cannot buy cards and medals of Beatrice at Catholic bookstores. But Dante thought he knew better.
I think Dante knew better too.