01-08-2018, 12:00 AM
rosy wrote:couldnt honestly prove that new age healers were not causing illness
I hear ya... and this is also why I have not been drawn to official 'professional' healing services. And when I went to 'get healed' to a shaman I was not given any miracle healing. I was told what to do/where to start and then that just opened up more stuff to work on and more stuff to work on... and all in all here I am, not having the problem I came to the shaman with and being a lot more wiser (while the shaman just told me some two sentences, but then a lot of work followed that did not even link to those two sentences really heh).
And this is the problem with healers, they can take away your journey and learning. Which in itself is a type of making you ill (because you do not learn on the deeper layers stuff that is helpful in general). What real helpers do is brush your link with spirit and help you heal yourself. Anything else is second grade. But, let's face it, second-grade help is often very sought after. And I am not gonna say it is evil or bad per se - people go to the doctor don't they... it is a service they need. Not everyone is ready to work their ass off for a couple of years, change their life around and whatnot to get rid of their ailment.
let's say there are differences in the quality, as well as the effort required from the seekers of help. And there are different 'healers' who meet these demands. Should it be like this? Should the people who want an easy, but not a wholesome, way out not be given what they want?
The thing with the fire... that would need a thorough looking into. Not sure what practice you speak of with the violet flame. I have at some points flung (a specific type of) stuff/thing into the fire, but this was a special fire for that purpose and there was a wise spirit present who advised me to use that fire. If indeed it would mean that the thing that I let burn just went into another world to be there... I have to say that that might be what needed to happen. And the thing might even originate from that world. (Ofc I am talking theoretically here, the thing I burned just burned and disintegrated).
You know how shamans do extractions and actually transmute the bad stuff into an object? This is ofc so that the people can see it leaving the body but I also think making it into matter may help dispose of it in a different way.
You know how some things are buried to be neutralized? It is not like the bad stuff just vanishes... there is a recycling process... hm?
fire has the ability to recycle certain things fast...
some things are better disposed of in other ways.
And some things I wonder if they can be disposed of at all...
the question that I would ask linked to what you write with this world and purple flame is, would it have been better to leave the 'bad' stuff where it was? I'd probably say no. Like if a person has inside them some black goo.. is it not better to remove it and put it wherever the black goo comes from or can live without harming others?
I think it would be good for the world to be taught / to learn forbearance...
I am not that familiar with the English term, so am gonna just specify that I see that very linked with politeness and behavior in communities (of people or spirits or any kinds of beings as well as with the beings that are oneself).
'politeness' (as I am using the term) is not some moral construct, it is a very real sorceric strategy / way of being...
I hear ya... and this is also why I have not been drawn to official 'professional' healing services. And when I went to 'get healed' to a shaman I was not given any miracle healing. I was told what to do/where to start and then that just opened up more stuff to work on and more stuff to work on... and all in all here I am, not having the problem I came to the shaman with and being a lot more wiser (while the shaman just told me some two sentences, but then a lot of work followed that did not even link to those two sentences really heh).
And this is the problem with healers, they can take away your journey and learning. Which in itself is a type of making you ill (because you do not learn on the deeper layers stuff that is helpful in general). What real helpers do is brush your link with spirit and help you heal yourself. Anything else is second grade. But, let's face it, second-grade help is often very sought after. And I am not gonna say it is evil or bad per se - people go to the doctor don't they... it is a service they need. Not everyone is ready to work their ass off for a couple of years, change their life around and whatnot to get rid of their ailment.
let's say there are differences in the quality, as well as the effort required from the seekers of help. And there are different 'healers' who meet these demands. Should it be like this? Should the people who want an easy, but not a wholesome, way out not be given what they want?
The thing with the fire... that would need a thorough looking into. Not sure what practice you speak of with the violet flame. I have at some points flung (a specific type of) stuff/thing into the fire, but this was a special fire for that purpose and there was a wise spirit present who advised me to use that fire. If indeed it would mean that the thing that I let burn just went into another world to be there... I have to say that that might be what needed to happen. And the thing might even originate from that world. (Ofc I am talking theoretically here, the thing I burned just burned and disintegrated).
You know how shamans do extractions and actually transmute the bad stuff into an object? This is ofc so that the people can see it leaving the body but I also think making it into matter may help dispose of it in a different way.
You know how some things are buried to be neutralized? It is not like the bad stuff just vanishes... there is a recycling process... hm?
fire has the ability to recycle certain things fast...
some things are better disposed of in other ways.
And some things I wonder if they can be disposed of at all...
the question that I would ask linked to what you write with this world and purple flame is, would it have been better to leave the 'bad' stuff where it was? I'd probably say no. Like if a person has inside them some black goo.. is it not better to remove it and put it wherever the black goo comes from or can live without harming others?
I think it would be good for the world to be taught / to learn forbearance...
I am not that familiar with the English term, so am gonna just specify that I see that very linked with politeness and behavior in communities (of people or spirits or any kinds of beings as well as with the beings that are oneself).
'politeness' (as I am using the term) is not some moral construct, it is a very real sorceric strategy / way of being...