09-18-2010, 12:00 AM
The movie itself has an interesting hidden core, which Lex pointed out. I see Lex as endeavoring to draw attention to this hidden core, and thus must first lay the groundwork. While I know the book references might not be comfortably placed here, it would be less effective to talk about the movie in other references as no better correlation exists, but even without these references I agree it could be discussed, just won't be as straightforward is all.
What interests me most is the second part of Lex's post about Nagarjuna and origins. The concept of origins is what drives the movie Inception, and this correlates to stalking techniques. While some may wish to learn stalking, I know no one here wishes to be stalked in return. What I found interesting is DiCaprio did not seem to fully come to terms with this...that he was stalked. He knew himself as a stalker, the one doing the inception, but clearly we as the audience saw he was just as immersed in the inception.
To take "the dream" (of life) seriously would result in a sense of threat. Even if that person knows beforehand its just a dream, something has to occur in perception to make them solidify the dream in a way that perceives its more than a dream. Once this happens, the inception can do its work. DiCaprio knows this. He knows what inception is, he knows how its done, he does it successfully, yet he himself is plagued with a sense of needing a future, hence he is prey to it as well. The end of the movie shows the, *spoiler alert* top spinning as the camera focuses on it. Saying to us the audience, "your world you are perceiving now is not real" and a typical response perhaps is to become alarmed and question our reality and question where the real reality is, thus needing a place to be in in the future. My friend who was with me didn't do this but she seemed disturbed that the movie ended with uncertainty. She asked me, "so did he make it back to reality or was he still trapped in dreaming?" It disturbed her to not be able to stabilize this. Because the character represented her in a sense.
Rather than all being dreams within dreams and always will be such, what becomes stabilized is the idea there is a realm beyond that must be gotten to because it is real, essential in some way and that way takes infinite forms depending on the perceiver. Also is the idea that not getting access to it would be death of some kind. So fear is the main component. So how is the fear established? Well, its outlined in stalking techniques presented here. Seeing it and knowing it is not enough though. As we see with DiCaprio's character who is adept at inception but cannot escape its perimeters himself. He keeps chasing a future.
What interests me most is the second part of Lex's post about Nagarjuna and origins. The concept of origins is what drives the movie Inception, and this correlates to stalking techniques. While some may wish to learn stalking, I know no one here wishes to be stalked in return. What I found interesting is DiCaprio did not seem to fully come to terms with this...that he was stalked. He knew himself as a stalker, the one doing the inception, but clearly we as the audience saw he was just as immersed in the inception.
To take "the dream" (of life) seriously would result in a sense of threat. Even if that person knows beforehand its just a dream, something has to occur in perception to make them solidify the dream in a way that perceives its more than a dream. Once this happens, the inception can do its work. DiCaprio knows this. He knows what inception is, he knows how its done, he does it successfully, yet he himself is plagued with a sense of needing a future, hence he is prey to it as well. The end of the movie shows the, *spoiler alert* top spinning as the camera focuses on it. Saying to us the audience, "your world you are perceiving now is not real" and a typical response perhaps is to become alarmed and question our reality and question where the real reality is, thus needing a place to be in in the future. My friend who was with me didn't do this but she seemed disturbed that the movie ended with uncertainty. She asked me, "so did he make it back to reality or was he still trapped in dreaming?" It disturbed her to not be able to stabilize this. Because the character represented her in a sense.
Rather than all being dreams within dreams and always will be such, what becomes stabilized is the idea there is a realm beyond that must be gotten to because it is real, essential in some way and that way takes infinite forms depending on the perceiver. Also is the idea that not getting access to it would be death of some kind. So fear is the main component. So how is the fear established? Well, its outlined in stalking techniques presented here. Seeing it and knowing it is not enough though. As we see with DiCaprio's character who is adept at inception but cannot escape its perimeters himself. He keeps chasing a future.