Hello to you all!

[DanJones]

It is good to know that I am not crazy because I am not the only one who resonates with the writings of Castenada.  Every since childhood I have had trouble fitting in with other people whom society called normal.  I have had to hide my real self from others because I live in two worlds instead of just one.  It is no fun being shunned time and time again for sharing perceptions that didn't make sense to others.  When I read the Eagle's Gift I saw how I can be the way I am and still be a part of society.  I leaned to stalk myself looking at situations where people loose energy being around me or me loosing energy being around others.  Gradually I started to have the ability to make the most of every situation and when this happened my life improved.
Dan Jones

[delawaredan]

Welcome Dan! It's good to have you here.

[DanJones]

Thanks. Spent a lot of years practicing Nagualism by myself and keeping it to myself. I leaned to See when I was young. I think it runs in the family as we all have had to learn to deal with our inorganic energy and make adjustments. I have had it worse than anyone. I tried living a normal life, graduating from college, working as an engineer and finding out I had a separate part of me that wasn't the least on board with what my social self saw as its path. I became a landscaper and a martial artist which gave me the freedom to pursue Nagualism without society coming down on me for no longer worshiping the human mind that limits us at every turn.
Now to find out I have people who are more like me and can relate to what I know gives me a lot of energy that was not available before.
Anyway thanks for having this site. I hope I can have a little more latitude than I had over at Dreamways Forum. He is a peerless Nagual but very exclusionary. We all have to dream his dream and nothing else. To give credit where credit is due though, I gained a lot from his posts on creation (heavenly and material planes) and energy bodies and chakras. I have spent time integrating his dreaming experiences with the don Juan's teachings and I do read everything Dreamways posts as gospel. I just wish people who call themselves Naguals would lighten up on the rest of humanity. I know so many people who don't have the inorganic energy that I have and are struggling to understand why life is so unpleasant all the time. A Nagual should seek out the third attention but serving humanity by channeling hope and laughter is way cooler than just being in it for your own skin.
There...
Off my chest...
DanJones

[Julio Juliopolis]

Welcome Dan,
I wouldn't worry too much about being banned by Dreamways, it happens to lots of people. He banned me for my hello post. This place is a bit more relaxed. I hope you find what you're seeking here.

[DanJones]

Julio, you have to admit though that Dreamways is great! Even though his abusive style puts me off my feed, he is one great Nagual. Some of his post have launched me so far into the Nagual it takes days for me to return to the Tonal. My inorganic side goes alright, a new post, must read and then "See". Thanks to him I have knowledge of Our God's creation that puts the Bible to shame. Also bringing his knowledge of our eight energy bodies to the table has been ground breaking for me. So let's stand back and let him work!

[Draco Fellicci]

Hi Dan, nice to meet you!
I dont like what dreamways is telling about what dreamways - he is not.

[Julio Juliopolis]

DanJones wrote:Julio, you have to admit though that Dreamways is great! Even though his abusive style puts me off my feed, he is one great Nagual. Some of his post have launched me so far into the Nagual it takes days for me to return to the Tonal. My inorganic side goes alright, a new post, must read and then "See". Thanks to him I have knowledge of Our God's creation that puts the Bible to shame. Also bringing his knowledge of our eight energy bodies to the table has been ground breaking for me. So let's stand back and let him work!If what he posts is true, he's got some leet dream skillz. If he's making it up, he's very creative and his forum is a work of art. Either way it makes for a great read.I think that at least most of what he posts is true, but I'm not yet able to verify it for myself. Its been a while since I logged out and read his forum. I might have a look at it again soon to see what's new there.Draco Fellicci wrote:Hi Dan, nice to meet you!
I dont like what dreamways is telling about what dreamways - he is not.
Have you personally verified this? What do you feel he's lying about; just himself, or everything he purports to see/do in dreams?

[Draco Fellicci]

Because he is not himself in his dreaming.

[DanJones]

Dreamways has a compelling intact narrative that keeps me glued to what he says.  He does what he says he does even if he is hard to like.  I don't like the mindless banning of people as it leads to cynical behavior.  I would do things different as the use of controlled folly means people can flow with people no matter how they present themselves to others.  Draco, we all need to lighten up on each other, because like Dreamways says, "we are suffering in a period of low dreaming energy".

[NagualHuman]

Hello Mr. Jones,

Regarding Dreamways,
I can't agree with you nor draco, I always had dreamways for someone who I never was or am, because his folly seemed me ridiculous and the facts far from the reality as I know it, and showed me absolutely nothing, except who dreamways really is. I always found someone who is not presenting himself in the right light as unworthy of following. I think that dreamways is one of the greatest sorcerers alive and that anyone he would embark to his heart, could make great things together, but I think he is too much within himself that he does not admit others as himself, I am not saying it is wrong, but just anti-social, lone.

His forum is almost dead from anyone then him, because noone is able to write anything comprehending to what dreamways write that the people get actually afraid of what they can even permit themselves to write and if not, those who remain their way are instantly banned, he is the only active member of his forum, when I look at PP it looks completely otherwise, more of a temple in the mountains.

He lacks the detail and that makes him behind the curtain of his words, but does not shows the reality of dream,
to me he mostly resemble a scholar, the talking men of truth without simple direct action.

It made me recapitulate that I had before years a forum for PC gamers and fantasy-likers mostly RPG players and there was like 200 people and one day when I gone on week into nature on school-trip I gave my administrator rights to one guy, I liked most on the forum and when I got back after the week, the forum was destructed he deleted half of the site and spammed over the other and banned almost everywhere, he gone total maggot and it really did not made much pleasant, but I said to myself, "whats up?" and deleted the site, then to bring it from ashes, as it seemed not worth it, than impossible.

[DanJones]

I agree, excellent insight into Dreamway's dilemma.  I wonder if his diabetes has turned him into an incurable grouch.  A Nagual needs a sense of humor or what is the point.  Oh yea, you are such the "Great One" that you can't entertain the ordinariness of others.  I am a martial artist and I found it tedious enduring the grandiose ambitions of others trying to set themselves up as the only one who knows the correct way.  I would immediately go train with the not so good because they are more fun to be around.

When in doubt, keep it human!

[NagualHuman]

I dont know of any diseases dreamways is possessed by, I thought dreamways is a great sorceror beyond pettiness of human's normal and usual problems, aint that right ?
Thats interesting, on my path I too at begining of my path found it tediously tedious the ambitions of others, but over time and many hours with my sensei, teachers, gurus, friends, family and IBs found that. That there is nothing more enjoyable then a place or relationship where the grandiosity of beigns interlace and create something indescribable and sometimes even so much that it is unbelievable.
I agree with you martial arts and self defense, strategy and techniques, I always had from birth very much tendencies to move and jump around, very hyperactive.
Later I found an ancient oriental inner martials arts and modern "lethaly-pacifiying" explosive defense systemas as an cornerstone of my path, among poetry, painting, rap,acting and other energizing activities, it has become for me an reflection of my sorceric heart, as the movements and muses seems exactly the same as handling and charging dreaming with energy into and tru body, however it is nothing in comparison to shapeshifting, serious magick, tempo, velocity and naguality.

I will

Thanks for uplifting, corageous words, made me want to write something cool too, so I did.

Keeping up not doing dreams, dreamt in sleep,while awake, is only routine worth of warrior's attention and way to recaptirotate, his own image, link to a spirit.

[DanJones]

We hope Dreamways he is beyond all that pettiness.  So much of our energy is trying to get out of being what we were born as and we end up rejecting our origins.  Since we die with our totality why not live with our totality.  I have brought my self as a child into my adult body and integrated it.
Also who I was as a teenager and young person also warts and all.  I have so many people in me that I can't count them all.  Some are young, dumb and clunky which makes me laugh when they surface and shock people with who I am now and others are more serious.  I also like to morph into animals when they are around as that makes me laugh. 

I watched my father die.  He had cancer and as he was winding down I vowed to honor his fate by accepting this might be my fate in time and I would accept it gladly to honor the man who gave me food/shelter/love.  I held his hand at the last as he was moaning how horrible his body felt.  As I was holding his hand I switched into my dreaming body and moved our assemblage points to where he would know serenity/peace and comfort.  He immediately relaxed and his face went smooth and calm.  When he died his assemblage point was still hooked to mine and he took me to the other side with him.  I didn't expect that to happen.....  What I saw was grey and bleak landscape where we go after everything has been taken from us.  I really had to stalk myself at that point because I have loved ones who couldn't handle what I witnessed and if I saw them before I could move my assemblage back they would be drawn in without knowing what it is.  What I and my dad saw was how temporary we are and how soon the same experience will happen to us all.  I had to go back to the illusion that life is permanent and we have the luxury to behave as though we are immortal. 

I had a lucid dreams with him later.  The first was me sitting in the passenger's seat with my head down like I used to do while Dad drove us to the jobsite.  I looked up at my Dad sitting behind the steering wheel looking ahead and said to him, "Dad, you died, what do you think about that?".
He turned his head to me and took his hands from the steering wheel, looked me in the eyes,  and said to me, "Well Dan, these  things happen."  I immediately thought to grab the steering wheel as I woke up thinking it didn't seem to bother him that we might crash if he didn't focus on driving.

I had another lucid dream with him where I made a dream bubble for him to come and visit me with his solid dreaming body.  He came inside and his body felt none of the pain.  We talked for awhile and then I said, "Dad, I don't know how much longer I can keep this dream bubble open for you, are you going to be alright?"  He said that he would and as the bubble collapsed I saw his dreaming body remember the pain and he sort of folded as he tried to stay solid there as long as he could and then he relaxed and disappeared back into the Nagual and I woke up.

Whatever I can do to jolt you NagualHuman I am happy to do and I wouldn't turn it down if you did the same for me.

[Draco Fellicci]

Yes, I do mainly in voices hear heavy or light energy and too balance;reflect it back, so that it stays crystal-clear.

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Welcome Dan to the forums.

[serloco]

I went over to dreamways just now to see what all the hype was about. I read for some time the different ideas and claimed experiences, It sent me into laughter more then a few times. His awareness is shallow and restrictive. For example he claims that don Juan told him that only one person can channel energy from one source at a time. Very limited knowledge considering one can shift positions to align to anothers exact position no matter how many people shift into the same position. Also he claims to be able to witness every position of heaven and hell simultaneously. c'mon. He also doesn't see that a good stalker can be anything he wants to be, missing a key element of controlled folly. Instead he believes that he has a preordained path that is his true self and only by following that path can he be happy. Speaking of being happy he seems like he is always miserable inside. 

On the other hand.. welcome to the forum!

[Nagual LoneWolf]

As time goes by the fliers have mainly won Im sure in their eyes. Castaneda is dead, his legacy denounced, his words no longer published. People no longer are aware of what happened, what was revealed. Only a few sites like this one exist to still keep the flame of knowledge alive. Dreamways helps in his way as I do in mine. Dreamways over the years has provided many new members to these forums and for that I thank him. Dreamways once was here. Yes rejoice that at least here when you mention controlled folly somebody knows what your talking about.

[serloco]

Yeah maybe you are right, but i know that in my dreams and in my visions of what i call reality many know what i know, because i know it myself and carry the light of that awareness to them. I've learned to expand my conscious mind into worlds where nearly everyone is a seer and magic is everywhere and normal. I got there because Castaneda told me to suspend my judgements of reality and of people. At first i saw them all as self-important, stuck in the average world, until the moment i realized i was at fault for their chains and misery and that those chains were my own. I was intending that position of awareness and in a way creating it. I then saw that I could intend other changes as well and we began intending together, moving together as a singular unit of awareness. Everyone became more like allies to me and less like people. There are many positions of reality for me now and that is thanks to Carlos and don Juan's lineage. I don't see the dwindling light of Castaneda's legacy around me but many, wherever i go, speaking his name and teachings.

[shamanka]

hi dan, welcome to sorcery

[DanJones]

Thank you all for welcoming me. I hope to do this honor credit by continuing in my sorcery endeavors and make my gains available to those who walk this path.
DanJones

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