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#1
billy, your last post that is waiting for approval cannot be in good conscience approved. You need to post the parts separately in places where they belong, not have your replies to all threads in one post that you posted in one thread (in which another member is looking at a specific topic, the other topics that you are replying to do not belong in that thread). You know as much, so I'm not sure what your deal is. 
It surely goes against the way we do things...

You wrote you don't want me to split the post up - but really, it is not me who should be doing such work when you are pretty capable of posting where is needed. I do not have time to do such kind of moderation. If you want your posts to appear, you have to post like a normal user.

Do not think that we have overlooked your posts just because they are not approved to appear at the site. We see them, we just don't think they should be approved.
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#2
You apparently glossed over reasoning that was included in that post--->  "because I waited 22 days for you to post #2 in 'this one time,'  I'm not looking all over the place for things of mine that don't even show up."

    Find one person on the forum besides yourself that considers 22 days a reasonable time frame for, from when I post a reply to the actual appearance on that thread.

   Paying attention to the fuller context, you would have garnered that neither Le_Regard or Pixie Dust earnestly objected to ANY material in my Seer section. 
   And, when I exercised common sense each time to delete the mutual banter between Pixie and me, you intervened by threatening to close my section down for my erasures. 

   My responses to subject matter in other threads were so untimely (moving through 'filters') as to be obsolete or/and nonsensical when finally posted.  So, I posted responses in my section (harming no one).  Of course it made no sense to preserve those replies because they were floating abstractions, disconnected from context in time.  Thus, I deleted those after allowing a day for reading.

   I essentially confined myself to my little corner, but that wasn't good enough.  You seem very controlling. I urge you to consider allowing me back in my confined space as things were.  You 'fixed' something that wasn't broken.

    I am not rudely leveraging, but what do think is going to happen when I am moved to circumvent.  I will go through tor and vpn to create half a dozen tapatalk user names.  Then there will be no constraints whatsoever, and it will be messy all around. You have taken no action on the multiple sock puppets, and you are currently allowing Le_Regard and Pixie Dust to engage in exactly in the same stalking I have been curbed for.  I can produce exchanges of serloco hostily stalking Finwe where it is well outside the realm of socially accepted norms.
    You allowed a stalker to use suggestions of my impending death.  Anywhere else, that would have resulted quickly in an automatic ban (lifetime ban at that).  But, latitude was given because of the context---> it was in a stalker's thread of a sorcery site. 
    This whole thing with Billy Ban, initially centered around what was perceived to be unwanted stalking.  THAT would be a seriously GOOD reason to stop someone.  ONLY, if you look closely now in hindsight, it NEVER was uninvited stalking.. AND THAT should trigger a review of this course you've taken in the first place. 
  
     NOT ONLY THAT [AND, I'M GIVING COMPLIMENTARY CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE HERE]  THE INSTIGATOR, the MASTER SOURCE (AS IN SORCERY), HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE WITCH ....LMAO

  So, ya gonna restrict serloco, Le_Regard, Pixie Dust (and a half dozen puppets)? 

   watergaze, you're reasonable... I'll voluntarily stay out this forum completely for over a month.  Consider that you'll give me the Christmas Eve present of my loose autonomy in Billy's Detachment (Dec 24).  And, I implore your nicety---> afford  me a trial basis (free of filters) so that I might intelligently contribute to other threads in timely fashion.  I will be on my best behavior in those threads outside of my own.  I surely won't abuse that privilege (wink).

   Damn. I am happy.
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#3
You apparently glossed over reasoning that was included in that post--->  "because I waited 22 days for you to post #2 in 'this one time,'  
Although I did skim (what do you expect if you reply to who knows how many threads in long formats on a single post?), I did notice your complaint. I deemed your nr 2 post as not making sense, so I did not approve it. I did not disapprove it either, I thought who knows maybe I will suddenly have an epiphany, but that did not happen. Your very important nr 2 post is what? 

I would not be upset if this never showed up. It made no sense whatsoever. I am not sure why this is so important to you, be glad someone else even had a look at it and decided to approve it - it sure wasnt me Wink. It brought nothing to a thread that had nothing in it anyway (imo). 

Stop whining.
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I'm not looking all over the place for things of mine that don't even show up."
maybe you should. You might actually get a hint of why some things are approved and others not. It could help you see what we find belongs here and what does not.
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    Find one person on the forum besides yourself that considers 22 days a reasonable time frame for, from when I post a reply to the actual appearance on that thread.
I just answered that.

Moreover (even if it were to happen that no one had gone over your post in 3 weeks), I am under no obligation to drop everything when you decide to post. You can wait... You got yourself into this pickle and you could have already gotten yourself out of it (I never saw this approval post thingy as something that would last this long). The fact that it does also shows that you are not willing to cooperate with us.
Either way, the waiting period is just part of the mod queue aspect of posting and it is your own fault that you are in this situation in the first place. 

   Paying attention to the fuller context, you would have garnered that neither Le_Regard or Pixie Dust earnestly objected to ANY material in my Seer section.  
It was not about the objections, but because of the content you posted (the objections just alert us to go check it out). You yourself knew you are crossing a line. And you wrote that you don't care if you get banned for it. Why the change of heart? 
.
 
  And, when I exercised common sense each time to delete the mutual banter between Pixie and me, you intervened by threatening to close my section down for my erasures.  
I did not threaten to close your section down due to you erasing some of your content - it is part of my idea for the new seers that the users can edit and delete in their own section. The fact that your section was empty of content was what did the trick. Once your section became a magnet for trouble, it made even more sense to get rid of it. And yet.... it's still there...
.  
My responses to subject matter in other threads were so untimely (moving through 'filters') as to be obsolete or/and nonsensical when finally posted.  So, I posted responses in my section (harming no one).  Of course it made no sense to preserve those replies because they were floating abstractions, disconnected from context in time.  Thus, I deleted those after allowing a day for reading. 
The reason for changing your rights was the banter in the threads. And the reason for wanting to close down your place was because you deleted all of its content. No need for a place with no content. You do not need a special forum to post your replies - you can post them where they belong (and dont give me that 22 day bs reason, you yourself wrote that it takes about 2 days for your posts to be approved - that is about what I noticed too. If it doesnt get approved within a few days it means there was some issue).

Did you not notice that the fast moving discussions are usually the ones where you do some faux pas? It is better for you when it takes a couple of days to post Tongue. You know that you do not have to hurry and do not have to rush your post. Discussions that are actually deeper have a slower pace too. A pace where your mod queue delay does not pose much of an issue. You chose to participate in threads like "this one time" instead of actually discussing sorceric stuff. You are sending a signal that your posting is of very low interest to the intent of this site. 
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   I essentially confined myself to my little corner, but that wasn't good enough.  You seem very controlling. I urge you to consider allowing me back in my confined space as things were.  You 'fixed' something that wasn't broken.
I urged you to take our rules and guidelines more seriously.
You did not confine yourself ... You naturally posted where you had more control... Wink
I understand that it seems controlling to you. It is somewhat funny to me how people, who are insensitive to others, are actually very sensitive to stuff that concerns themselves. Weird, always found it weird...
.
   
I am not rudely leveraging, but what do think is going to happen when I am moved to circumvent.  I will go through tor and vpn to create half a dozen tapatalk user names.  Then there will be no constraints whatsoever, and it will be messy all around. You have taken no action on the multiple sock puppets, and you are currently allowing Le_Regard and Pixie Dust to engage in exactly in the same stalking I have been curbed for.  I can produce exchanges of serloco hostily stalking Finwe where it is well outside the realm of socially accepted norms.
tapatalk has great measures for preventing this kind of chaos. I am not intimidated, nor will I act out of fear of a bully.
To my knowledge, there are no sockpuppets here right now. I do not know who you think is a sockpuppet. Care to elaborate? 
There are quite a few differences between your case and what you mention. You were asked to stop - repeatedly. The problems we had with you were going on for ages, it was not just one thread and/or one interaction. Sometimes people bump heads during one or two interactions (hence it is local and of short duration - unlike what happened in your case.), we do not ban people for that (ofc it also depends on the specifics and the severity of the language etc.). But a constant hammering on someone, that crosses all the lines imo. You have been warned a few times, when I warned serloco he apologized and changed his behavior (and the scope of what he did was different). Big difference to how you responded. Even now you are threatening the site. Why would we want somebody like that around to post freely at our site? We wouldn't.
   
You allowed a stalker to use suggestions of my impending death.  Anywhere else, that would have resulted quickly in an automatic ban (lifetime ban at that).  But, latitude was given because of the context---> it was in a stalker's thread of a sorcery site.  
I don't know what you are talking about. But I am already tired of repeating that if the mods here fail to notice or act on something like that that you should notify them. If you did not then it is too late to cry over it now.

    This whole thing with Billy Ban, initially centered around what was perceived to be unwanted stalking.  THAT would be a seriously GOOD reason to stop someone.  ONLY, if you look closely now in hindsight, it NEVER was uninvited stalking.. AND THAT should trigger a review of this course you've taken in the first place.  
I reviewed it. I have no better alternative ideas. You can review away too. I am always open to perfecting the way things are done to foster a place where people can have sorcery-related discussions.
I am just one person trying to do what can be done. I am imperfect and I always will be. Putting that aside, things are not as blurred as you'd like to believe in the sense that... It does not matter (for this site) if the stalking was initially invited or uninvited. It matters what you actually did and wrote (and also not on the past but on the present). And we did not penalize you for it before we made sure you know that you are crossing a line and that we will take action if you do so again... you chose to ignore us. 
 .
   
  NOT ONLY THAT [AND, I'M GIVING COMPLIMENTARY CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE HERE]  THE INSTIGATOR, the MASTER SOURCE (AS IN SORCERY), HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE WITCH ....LMAO
I don't understand your meaning here.

 
So, ya gonna restrict serloco, Le_Regard, Pixie Dust (and a half dozen puppets)?  
I do not see why... and, again, I do not know of any puppets.
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   watergaze, you're reasonable... I'll voluntarily stay out this forum completely for over a month.  Consider that you'll give me the Christmas Eve present of my loose autonomy in Billy's Detachment (Dec 24).  And, I implore your nicety---> afford  me a trial basis (free of filters) so that I might intelligently contribute to other threads in timely fashion.  I will be on my best behavior in those threads outside of my own.  I surely won't abuse that privilege (wink). 
.
this was your trial basis. and you still break the rules where you can. Even here... look at your tone.. you don't think before you post. You then have to write messages saying you didn't mean to be confrontational. Well, damn, if you don't mean to be confrontational then don't be. Don't threaten, don't call people names, etc, etc, etc.

Otherwise, you just look like someone who is playing games. Hot and cold, nice and mean, this and that. Manipulative... untrustworthy... waste of time. Is that what you are going for? I sure hope not...
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#4
You have too much responsibility, watergaze...... not enough fun.  Use that ruler 'Teach'- crack down on knuckles like some old repressed nun from the convent.

I am laughing so hard... you are a fool, watergaze
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#5
All of this could have been done in a PM. Such voyeurs. Get a room.
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#6
That's exactly what I indicated to her.  I said don't post mine...showed we can reconcile easily enough via PM. 

 No, not watergaze.  She wants to get to where she is frustrated enough to write that cr*p.  What she really needs is a  c e r t a i n  k i n d of toy... the one mentioned by yourself (as yourself),  Pixie. 

She needs YOU!!
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#7
And oh by the way, I have just shifted... you can ignore my last PM.  I no longer have any interest in you, Pixie Dust.
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#8
My detachment material will likely be reassembled at primeradiant.yuku.  I know it had to be helpful to some of you.  It has very solid principles.
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#9
watergaze wrote:
You apparently glossed over reasoning that was included in that post--->  "because I waited 22 days for you to post #2 in 'this one time,'  
Although I did skim (what do you expect if you reply to who knows how many threads in long formats on a single post?), I did notice your complaint. I deemed your nr 2 post as not making sense, so I did not approve it. I did not disapprove it either, I thought who knows maybe I will suddenly have an epiphany, but that did not happen. Your very important nr 2 post is what? 

I would not be upset if this never showed up. It made no sense whatsoever. I am not sure why this is so important to you, be glad someone else even had a look at it and decided to approve it - it sure wasnt me Wink. It brought nothing to a thread that had nothing in it anyway (imo). 

Stop whining.
.

I'm not looking all over the place for things of mine that don't even show up."
maybe you should. You might actually get a hint of why some things are approved and others not. It could help you see what we find belongs here and what does not.
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    Find one person on the forum besides yourself that considers 22 days a reasonable time frame for, from when I post a reply to the actual appearance on that thread.
I just answered that.

Moreover (even if it were to happen that no one had gone over your post in 3 weeks), I am under no obligation to drop everything when you decide to post. You can wait... You got yourself into this pickle and you could have already gotten yourself out of it (I never saw this approval post thingy as something that would last this long). The fact that it does also shows that you are not willing to cooperate with us.
Either way, the waiting period is just part of the mod queue aspect of posting and it is your own fault that you are in this situation in the first place. 

   Paying attention to the fuller context, you would have garnered that neither Le_Regard or Pixie Dust earnestly objected to ANY material in my Seer section.  
It was not about the objections, but because of the content you posted (the objections just alert us to go check it out). You yourself knew you are crossing a line. And you wrote that you don't care if you get banned for it. Why the change of heart? 
.
 
  And, when I exercised common sense each time to delete the mutual banter between Pixie and me, you intervened by threatening to close my section down for my erasures.  
I did not threaten to close your section down due to you erasing some of your content - it is part of my idea for the new seers that the users can edit and delete in their own section. The fact that your section was empty of content was what did the trick. Once your section became a magnet for trouble, it made even more sense to get rid of it. And yet.... it's still there...
.  
My responses to subject matter in other threads were so untimely (moving through 'filters') as to be obsolete or/and nonsensical when finally posted.  So, I posted responses in my section (harming no one).  Of course it made no sense to preserve those replies because they were floating abstractions, disconnected from context in time.  Thus, I deleted those after allowing a day for reading. 
The reason for changing your rights was the banter in the threads. And the reason for wanting to close down your place was because you deleted all of its content. No need for a place with no content. You do not need a special forum to post your replies - you can post them where they belong (and dont give me that 22 day bs reason, you yourself wrote that it takes about 2 days for your posts to be approved - that is about what I noticed too. If it doesnt get approved within a few days it means there was some issue).

Did you not notice that the fast moving discussions are usually the ones where you do some faux pas? It is better for you when it takes a couple of days to post Tongue. You know that you do not have to hurry and do not have to rush your post. Discussions that are actually deeper have a slower pace too. A pace where your mod queue delay does not pose much of an issue. You chose to participate in threads like "this one time" instead of actually discussing sorceric stuff. You are sending a signal that your posting is of very low interest to the intent of this site. 
.

   I essentially confined myself to my little corner, but that wasn't good enough.  You seem very controlling. I urge you to consider allowing me back in my confined space as things were.  You 'fixed' something that wasn't broken.
I urged you to take our rules and guidelines more seriously.
You did not confine yourself ... You naturally posted where you had more control... Wink
I understand that it seems controlling to you. It is somewhat funny to me how people, who are insensitive to others, are actually very sensitive to stuff that concerns themselves. Weird, always found it weird...
.
   
I am not rudely leveraging, but what do think is going to happen when I am moved to circumvent.  I will go through tor and vpn to create half a dozen tapatalk user names.  Then there will be no constraints whatsoever, and it will be messy all around. You have taken no action on the multiple sock puppets, and you are currently allowing Le_Regard and Pixie Dust to engage in exactly in the same stalking I have been curbed for.  I can produce exchanges of serloco hostily stalking Finwe where it is well outside the realm of socially accepted norms.
tapatalk has great measures for preventing this kind of chaos. I am not intimidated, nor will I act out of fear of a bully.
To my knowledge, there are no sockpuppets here right now. I do not know who you think is a sockpuppet. Care to elaborate? 
There are quite a few differences between your case and what you mention. You were asked to stop - repeatedly. The problems we had with you were going on for ages, it was not just one thread and/or one interaction. Sometimes people bump heads during one or two interactions (hence it is local and of short duration - unlike what happened in your case.), we do not ban people for that (ofc it also depends on the specifics and the severity of the language etc.). But a constant hammering on someone, that crosses all the lines imo. You have been warned a few times, when I warned serloco he apologized and changed his behavior (and the scope of what he did was different). Big difference to how you responded. Even now you are threatening the site. Why would we want somebody like that around to post freely at our site? We wouldn't.
   
You allowed a stalker to use suggestions of my impending death.  Anywhere else, that would have resulted quickly in an automatic ban (lifetime ban at that).  But, latitude was given because of the context---> it was in a stalker's thread of a sorcery site.  
I don't know what you are talking about. But I am already tired of repeating that if the mods here fail to notice or act on something like that that you should notify them. If you did not then it is too late to cry over it now.

    This whole thing with Billy Ban, initially centered around what was perceived to be unwanted stalking.  THAT would be a seriously GOOD reason to stop someone.  ONLY, if you look closely now in hindsight, it NEVER was uninvited stalking.. AND THAT should trigger a review of this course you've taken in the first place.  
I reviewed it. I have no better alternative ideas. You can review away too. I am always open to perfecting the way things are done to foster a place where people can have sorcery-related discussions.
I am just one person trying to do what can be done. I am imperfect and I always will be. Putting that aside, things are not as blurred as you'd like to believe in the sense that... It does not matter (for this site) if the stalking was initially invited or uninvited. It matters what you actually did and wrote (and also not on the past but on the present). And we did not penalize you for it before we made sure you know that you are crossing a line and that we will take action if you do so again... you chose to ignore us. 
 .
   
  NOT ONLY THAT [AND, I'M GIVING COMPLIMENTARY CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE HERE]  THE INSTIGATOR, the MASTER SOURCE (AS IN SORCERY), HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE WITCH ....LMAO
I don't understand your meaning here.

 
So, ya gonna restrict serloco, Le_Regard, Pixie Dust (and a half dozen puppets)?  
I do not see why... and, again, I do not know of any puppets.
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   watergaze, you're reasonable... I'll voluntarily stay out this forum completely for over a month.  Consider that you'll give me the Christmas Eve present of my loose autonomy in Billy's Detachment (Dec 24).  And, I implore your nicety---> afford  me a trial basis (free of filters) so that I might intelligently contribute to other threads in timely fashion.  I will be on my best behavior in those threads outside of my own.  I surely won't abuse that privilege (wink). 
.
this was your trial basis. and you still break the rules where you can. Even here... look at your tone.. you don't think before you post. You then have to write messages saying you didn't mean to be confrontational. Well, damn, if you don't mean to be confrontational then don't be. Don't threaten, don't call people names, etc, etc, etc.

Otherwise, you just look like someone who is playing games. Hot and cold, nice and mean, this and that. Manipulative... untrustworthy... waste of time. Is that what you are going for? I sure hope not...

To be entirely fair, I was only ready to make a complaint about that other thread BEFORE I realized that Pixie Dust is so crazy she's functionally immune to sexual harassment.
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#10
Le_Regard wrote:
watergaze wrote:
You apparently glossed over reasoning that was included in that post--->  "because I waited 22 days for you to post #2 in 'this one time,'  
Although I did skim (what do you expect if you reply to who knows how many threads in long formats on a single post?), I did notice your complaint. I deemed your nr 2 post as not making sense, so I did not approve it. I did not disapprove it either, I thought who knows maybe I will suddenly have an epiphany, but that did not happen. Your very important nr 2 post is what? 

I would not be upset if this never showed up. It made no sense whatsoever. I am not sure why this is so important to you, be glad someone else even had a look at it and decided to approve it - it sure wasnt me Wink. It brought nothing to a thread that had nothing in it anyway (imo). 

Stop whining.
.

I'm not looking all over the place for things of mine that don't even show up."
maybe you should. You might actually get a hint of why some things are approved and others not. It could help you see what we find belongs here and what does not.
.

    Find one person on the forum besides yourself that considers 22 days a reasonable time frame for, from when I post a reply to the actual appearance on that thread.
I just answered that.

Moreover (even if it were to happen that no one had gone over your post in 3 weeks), I am under no obligation to drop everything when you decide to post. You can wait... You got yourself into this pickle and you could have already gotten yourself out of it (I never saw this approval post thingy as something that would last this long). The fact that it does also shows that you are not willing to cooperate with us.
Either way, the waiting period is just part of the mod queue aspect of posting and it is your own fault that you are in this situation in the first place. 

   Paying attention to the fuller context, you would have garnered that neither Le_Regard or Pixie Dust earnestly objected to ANY material in my Seer section.  
It was not about the objections, but because of the content you posted (the objections just alert us to go check it out). You yourself knew you are crossing a line. And you wrote that you don't care if you get banned for it. Why the change of heart? 
.
 
  And, when I exercised common sense each time to delete the mutual banter between Pixie and me, you intervened by threatening to close my section down for my erasures.  
I did not threaten to close your section down due to you erasing some of your content - it is part of my idea for the new seers that the users can edit and delete in their own section. The fact that your section was empty of content was what did the trick. Once your section became a magnet for trouble, it made even more sense to get rid of it. And yet.... it's still there...
.  
My responses to subject matter in other threads were so untimely (moving through 'filters') as to be obsolete or/and nonsensical when finally posted.  So, I posted responses in my section (harming no one).  Of course it made no sense to preserve those replies because they were floating abstractions, disconnected from context in time.  Thus, I deleted those after allowing a day for reading. 
The reason for changing your rights was the banter in the threads. And the reason for wanting to close down your place was because you deleted all of its content. No need for a place with no content. You do not need a special forum to post your replies - you can post them where they belong (and dont give me that 22 day bs reason, you yourself wrote that it takes about 2 days for your posts to be approved - that is about what I noticed too. If it doesnt get approved within a few days it means there was some issue).

Did you not notice that the fast moving discussions are usually the ones where you do some faux pas? It is better for you when it takes a couple of days to post Tongue. You know that you do not have to hurry and do not have to rush your post. Discussions that are actually deeper have a slower pace too. A pace where your mod queue delay does not pose much of an issue. You chose to participate in threads like "this one time" instead of actually discussing sorceric stuff. You are sending a signal that your posting is of very low interest to the intent of this site. 
.

   I essentially confined myself to my little corner, but that wasn't good enough.  You seem very controlling. I urge you to consider allowing me back in my confined space as things were.  You 'fixed' something that wasn't broken.
I urged you to take our rules and guidelines more seriously.
You did not confine yourself ... You naturally posted where you had more control... Wink
I understand that it seems controlling to you. It is somewhat funny to me how people, who are insensitive to others, are actually very sensitive to stuff that concerns themselves. Weird, always found it weird...
.
   
I am not rudely leveraging, but what do think is going to happen when I am moved to circumvent.  I will go through tor and vpn to create half a dozen tapatalk user names.  Then there will be no constraints whatsoever, and it will be messy all around. You have taken no action on the multiple sock puppets, and you are currently allowing Le_Regard and Pixie Dust to engage in exactly in the same stalking I have been curbed for.  I can produce exchanges of serloco hostily stalking Finwe where it is well outside the realm of socially accepted norms.
tapatalk has great measures for preventing this kind of chaos. I am not intimidated, nor will I act out of fear of a bully.
To my knowledge, there are no sockpuppets here right now. I do not know who you think is a sockpuppet. Care to elaborate? 
There are quite a few differences between your case and what you mention. You were asked to stop - repeatedly. The problems we had with you were going on for ages, it was not just one thread and/or one interaction. Sometimes people bump heads during one or two interactions (hence it is local and of short duration - unlike what happened in your case.), we do not ban people for that (ofc it also depends on the specifics and the severity of the language etc.). But a constant hammering on someone, that crosses all the lines imo. You have been warned a few times, when I warned serloco he apologized and changed his behavior (and the scope of what he did was different). Big difference to how you responded. Even now you are threatening the site. Why would we want somebody like that around to post freely at our site? We wouldn't.
   
You allowed a stalker to use suggestions of my impending death.  Anywhere else, that would have resulted quickly in an automatic ban (lifetime ban at that).  But, latitude was given because of the context---> it was in a stalker's thread of a sorcery site.  
I don't know what you are talking about. But I am already tired of repeating that if the mods here fail to notice or act on something like that that you should notify them. If you did not then it is too late to cry over it now.

    This whole thing with Billy Ban, initially centered around what was perceived to be unwanted stalking.  THAT would be a seriously GOOD reason to stop someone.  ONLY, if you look closely now in hindsight, it NEVER was uninvited stalking.. AND THAT should trigger a review of this course you've taken in the first place.  
I reviewed it. I have no better alternative ideas. You can review away too. I am always open to perfecting the way things are done to foster a place where people can have sorcery-related discussions.
I am just one person trying to do what can be done. I am imperfect and I always will be. Putting that aside, things are not as blurred as you'd like to believe in the sense that... It does not matter (for this site) if the stalking was initially invited or uninvited. It matters what you actually did and wrote (and also not on the past but on the present). And we did not penalize you for it before we made sure you know that you are crossing a line and that we will take action if you do so again... you chose to ignore us. 
 .
   
  NOT ONLY THAT [AND, I'M GIVING COMPLIMENTARY CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE HERE]  THE INSTIGATOR, the MASTER SOURCE (AS IN SORCERY), HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE WITCH ....LMAO
I don't understand your meaning here.

 
So, ya gonna restrict serloco, Le_Regard, Pixie Dust (and a half dozen puppets)?  
I do not see why... and, again, I do not know of any puppets.
.
   watergaze, you're reasonable... I'll voluntarily stay out this forum completely for over a month.  Consider that you'll give me the Christmas Eve present of my loose autonomy in Billy's Detachment (Dec 24).  And, I implore your nicety---> afford  me a trial basis (free of filters) so that I might intelligently contribute to other threads in timely fashion.  I will be on my best behavior in those threads outside of my own.  I surely won't abuse that privilege (wink). 
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this was your trial basis. and you still break the rules where you can. Even here... look at your tone.. you don't think before you post. You then have to write messages saying you didn't mean to be confrontational. Well, damn, if you don't mean to be confrontational then don't be. Don't threaten, don't call people names, etc, etc, etc.

Otherwise, you just look like someone who is playing games. Hot and cold, nice and mean, this and that. Manipulative... untrustworthy... waste of time. Is that what you are going for? I sure hope not...

To be entirely fair, I was only ready to make a complaint about that other thread BEFORE I realized that Pixie Dust is so crazy she's functionally immune to sexual harassment.

Is there anything stopping you from making an 18+ section that he can just be weird in all day long if he wants to, but ban him from everywhere else?  He might like that.  Call it Billy's Solipsism.
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Le_Regard, that was the idea behind leaving him free to post in Billy's Detachment. 

Le_Regard, since I have you here in this thread, can I ask you to please try posting in a more concise manner and not to quote the whole post when you are not responding to specific things said in it? (you can do that by clicking the big reply button underneath each thread). And if you are responding to one part of the post, put just that part in a quote. If you quote the whole long thing it just makes your posts scrolling exercises. 
In your replies here.... in order to write two lines of text, you quote over 100 lines of text (and a picture). Twice!
Please try to change this in the future, I have been getting irritated over your posting style... You would do me a favour (thank you) + it would make it seem like you have read our rules and guidelines (which I advise you to read). Or, if you have read them, it would make it seems as if you are a person who is able to participate in a way that is respectful of the community. (Hm, maybe I should try to adjust the way quoting is done, I'll think about it and see if anything can be done with it...)
Moreover, it should be the case that if you respond within a couple of hours of posting, you can edit your own post. You can then add the 2 lines of your last post, to the two lines in your second last post. And voila, soooo much less scrolling!

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Pixie, I know exactly why I did this here and not in PM. And, I do not agree with your opinion. Plus you are not informed enough to be making these kinds of judgments.

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billy, your insults will not be posted here. Don't be surprised that your actions have reactions. Do you think you can spout your thoughts at me and that I will just take it in silence and smile at you and sing kumbaya? Pat you on the back and then just wait for you to do it again? Big Grin. No, I will not. Saying afterwards that you did not mean something that you write, does not erase the fact that you did. People here do not realize what you are posting other than what I or another mod/admin approve. You think that when you say, oh sorry, I'm shifted now... that everything is erased and that I had not just read all sorts of bs. Shift before you post the bs, not after. We are not some toilet where you go puke and then once you have done so, you just inform us that you think you flushed your waste on your side ... and expect it all to be peachy now.

Yesterday you posted so many pms in succession that once I finished responding here and went to look at them.... I decided that I want to sleep and it is too much work / too hard to respond to them, because they were not replies in one conversation and hence I could only see one pm (of one or two lines) that I would be replying to in the window, all the others are so to speak different 'threads'. I'd have to open a couple of windows to see what I would be responding to. I'm not willing to do that. I like my sleep. Moreover, I responded enough here for you to gauge my reaction.

Your shifts are of too short durations, you seem to very easily come back to bs&insult mode. Your promises and words do not mean much since you already went back on your word before. Hence you are to me, an untrustworthy character at this site. Plus you do not seem to want to interact in a decently polite manner. 

You pretend to be one way here and another way in pm? Which one is the true billy? Smile. What you write stands so be damn sure when you post that you are posting what you want us to read. Period.
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On an different note, billy, the picture you posted was quite intriguing. Had you tried to say why you were posting it, it would have made a difference. As it was, I just did not get it and it made no sense to me. That is all.
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watergaze wrote:
Le_Regard, that was the idea behind leaving him free to post in Billy's Detachment. 

Le_Regard, since I have you here in this thread, can I ask you to please try posting in a more concise manner and not to quote the whole post when you are not responding to specific things said in it? (you can do that by clicking the big reply button underneath each thread). And if you are responding to one part of the post, put just that part in a quote. If you quote the whole long thing it just makes your posts scrolling exercises. 
In your replies here.... in order to write two lines of text, you quote over 100 lines of text (and a picture). Twice!
I think it's more than likely that I'll just leave rather than submit to your editorial control, and you can herd autistics all by yourself.
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Le_Regard wrote:
watergaze wrote:
Le_Regard, that was the idea behind leaving him free to post in Billy's Detachment. 

Le_Regard, since I have you here in this thread, can I ask you to please try posting in a more concise manner and not to quote the whole post when you are not responding to specific things said in it? (you can do that by clicking the big reply button underneath each thread). And if you are responding to one part of the post, put just that part in a quote. If you quote the whole long thing it just makes your posts scrolling exercises. 
In your replies here.... in order to write two lines of text, you quote over 100 lines of text (and a picture). Twice!
I think it's more than likely that I'll just leave rather than submit to your editorial control, and you can herd autistics all by yourself. 

And that's assuming you don't screw this up so badly your community dies and you don't have anyone left to herd.

But please, go ahead with what you were doing.
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You are free to roam the world as you see fit La_Regard.  I do not mind you doing that. I'm glad you have this option. You decide what is right for you. 

You have come to a place where there are certain customs and you have the choices of either being polite 'when in Rome' kinda style, or leaving. There is also the option of showing you can be polite and caring enough about this place and community that you become a part of it and help it be better and shift how things are done towards a better way. That option, however, is very rarely taken, so I won't hold it against you.

I am not interested in herding Smile. Be well and prosper Smile
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My last response with Childish #314 applies in this case equally well.
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I like how she addressed each of us. That was sweet. I also enjoy being herded.
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Pixie Dust wrote:
I like how she addressed each of us.  That was sweet.  I also enjoy being herded.

It was so unbelievable and insulting that I lost sleep for two days "caring enough about this place and community that you become a part of it and help it be better and shift how things are done towards a better way" and she was so out of touch and clueless she couldn't even scratch the surface of what is really going on here.  Just unbelievable.
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I'm sure you'll get over it, Le.  Give it time.  Probably shouldn't have put such an effort into an impossible task.  Sorcery is the way it is and Watergaze is busy living her life.  She shouldn't be too concerned with the drama kings and queens of Sorcery.... it's all just a hilarious joke anyway.  I would hope no one took it too seriously :/  

She's a strong, independent woman who is taking no sh*t from any of us distractors.  As hard as we might try, she's enjoying her life and to be honest, that's the way it should have been all along.  Good for her for being successful and following her own beat.  She's the lantern in the dark night, a carrier of hope and goodness in our world.  She's gorgeous.

Maybe you should make a Yuku complaint if you think she's not performing as you see fit.  I'm certain Chris will care.  He's super helpful every time I contact him.
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