Supporting NH requirement for more personal contact with Shamanka

[shamanka]

i had no idea where to put this WG, please feel free, to move it anywhere you like...



conversation based on vote in support forums for what we might like to see on the forum as a whole.....

S:id like nh to consider keeping his long posts in his own subforum, and attempt to really focus his replies elsewhere 


NH:Id like shamanka to care more about her own bussiness, then of the others.
Id like shamanka to understand that there is something more going on.

Although I am open to any possibility, for that I am willing to "reduce" the pressure..eh the posts I post in others threads, if shamanka is able to tell me why in more personaly aproached contact.

I would like to see some total reorganisation of the whole site, changing the QUETO on the Head of the forum, changing all headers and dresses-backgrounds to something more modern and elegant, I would like to see changed names of the forums and bit of reorganisations, for start I would like to see one forum deleted...the Oblivion.

Happy Holidays!

S: as i said 'i'd like' ..i did not demand...i saw an open invitation to express and so therefore i did.

as for my own business, as their is, NH quote: something more going on" according to your business, if you care to enlighten me to the specific intention of such..if i know it, then i can drop it out of my attention..

1....without comprehending the desire you have to put 'pressure' (your words) on everyone elses threads.
and
2....while there is obviously an intent to include me in your business as i am on the forum....

the 'i' you perceive, wouldn't be able to concentrate on its own business, now would it?

so, as for a more personal approach to contact...i have made this thread as you are open to all possibilities..however, this 'I' only has to mention your name, and you are affected by that..i feel that is all you can handle at this time..i wouldnt want you to have a coronary. if you would like to prove me wrong, then please do so.....here, where we can reach a commonality, brush each others awareness, with words that try to express our core essence, yet are understood by both parties...agreed?

[NagualHuman]

Agreed! Thank you for your openess.

You seem to be lot the A, head.

One my friend once told me
"There is nothing more than names"

I feel that it somehow discomfort you that I am trying to be the I what I am so here is an elaborate answer - straight into the bussiness.
One question on which I really wants written answer....does my name discomfort you somehow ? if so please leap on an prey, even though it would mean breaking its neck...


I will try to express the intent that is now going on the "purest" scale
Although If I would name it with the true name, or more precisely the most true names it would defile the intent with overwhelmingness.
The galactic configuration of whole galaxy and most importantly the applicated position inside matter changed for the earth, big changes come as what one was is no more, the blue gone... see where this leads to ?*

I already written an goverment declaration, government... which said alot bout the bussiness yet it value was only the half of the coin I am throwing into these lonely winds. Do you like the Lonely Winds of Change ? and if so how value you bear to them in comparison to the Flames of Change ? What is the value of these two forces ?
I also already made a several posts like "Dragon Dragoculum" which you should take in consideration towards this matter.

There is this pack of wolves running through forest, they actually found a strange cave full of shiny gold objects, wolves really like them but they cant put upon it themselves, they have only paws... some of this armbands, necklaces and even parts of elven armor, they decided to stay here for a while and just enjoy the treasures they found, giving off their free spirit of running across planes for a while, although they did not knew to who this cave belongs too, after few days...one night a strange noise they heard outside and it woken them all up, after while ground began to shake, and dragon entered the cave, he see those wolves lying on HIS treasure, but did not made any aggresive move towards them, he just awaited, the wolfs started to growl and were preparing to fight for death as they did not awaited a dragon to appear and they was scared as he was big and they never saw such a creature before, one wolf, exactly the oldest and most valued member of the family, the leaderess of pack was also the most cunning wolf, and she creep behind the dragon unseen by him, so that she may attack him from behind and maybe make an escape for other wolves, as she did not see fighting this horrible big creature as an option.
The Dragon was little confused, he did not knew what to think, at first he was enchanted by the cuteness of those "small" fluffy creatures, but when they started to growl, he thought that they want to play, what he really was not thinking of that they mean it deadly serious, but he did not knew how to play with them, he surely does not want to just kill them with his might claws, so he breathed some fire upside, wolves were really enchanted by the fire, but their Animal Insticts told them straight away that the dragon is really dangerous so they started to grown and closing around the dragon even more...The Dragon stayed calm, and then he saw a one little wolf pup a boy, that was not growling on with the pack, actually he was on the golden treasure with a golden armband in his jaws, looking like that he is trying to somehow dress it up on his leg-paw, the Dragon flew into Air just a second before the wolves attacked him and flew to that young pup, he took the armband into his claw and put it up on the scared little pup, the wolves were confused and ran towards to protect this young one, and the dragon withdraw to the back of the cave, than the wolves started to see that, that he really does not want to eat or kill them and the dragon gave every wulf a piece of gold and they became friends.
The wolves were amazed by the dragons ability to fly and so did the dragon was with their ability to "Sniff around"...Stalk, they teached him very well how to stalk, and they awaited that the dragon will learn them too, but he said to them "I cant learn you anything, If you want to learn to fly, you must make yourself a friends with the electric eels in the sea?" the wolves were confused "but we want to fly!, How this going to help us, we dont like fishes!, we dont like to swim much!" "You wolves does not have a wings, yet you want to fly, you can, but only if you something of same exact "impossible", if you will learn to like swimming and even make yourselves friends with eels...than you can even fly!, the world alone is too much lonely for just single pack of wolves, havent you ever wondered if there are running-free spirits same like you ?, there are alot of packs of animals, but every one of them has his own abilites like you are the best stalkers, but if you are able to throw away your Animal Forms, to understnad that all others are Free Spirits same like you, than you can learn much more than just to fly!" but the Great Grandma Wulf, the leader of the pack asked "and what is it that you want ?"
"I just want to all to understand that they all can be dragons, no matter if eel, wolf or elephant, I want everyone to learn to fly and breath fire, to be just as magickal as I am, as I am dragon - I really should not exist, and by that I am going to learn those animals to live together, I will learn their tricks, like I learned stalking from you" than an old grumpy wulf asked "Are you some kind of King of Animals ? You the Dragon ?" At first the Dragon wanted to sear that insolent wulf in flames, but than he smiled and flew away into the sky.
Wolves always remembered how the dragon gave them their treasure, at first they was really anxious about getting in contact with the eels and water, but after some time they managed to make eels their friends, altought at first there was alot of struggles as the fish language is very different from the wulf language, the eels like to skim in waters having it everywhere around, while wulfs like to walk on earth, having it right bellow.

*I may be wrong at this thought, but time proven me I have to do it this way, because most people cant get their heads straight as they see it as just a mere fantasy, altough! I may be wrong about this matter in toward you, and if so please tell me that things which matters, the intent can be more accurate. This allows to everyone who sees the intent to see it, others just get flushed away by fantasmagorism.

My only intent is to be human, I count myself as warriors heart, my path is of nothing else, I love beign human I will never give that right away.
Ever beated your chest with a pride ?

[shamanka]

can you just condense this analogue story thingy into a series of short understandable statements and questions..then i will answer them...i dont process..so the simpler the questions the greater my capacity to answer...thanks..

[NagualHuman]

Eels are not so far, actually they are really close almost like on pararel line,
Wolves are Stalkers - wolves sniffs alot
Eels are Dreamers - eels do electric(magnetic) field

The Nagual LoneWolf had some contact with the wolves and he was really good at stalking the eels,
however the eletric field was not understood properly and in that contact, nothing came to understanding,
I hope the contacts that are hapenning and will be happening will be done in more friendly - equal mood.
When wolves wants to learn how to the electric, he cant get too much involved in the "cant do, is not right" feeling what is done when the electric field is beign made, actually the eels are now learning how to aproach wolves without burning them too much with the electricity, the have.

[shamanka]

so no questions then..just another un interactive..blurb expecting someone to read it? another analogue from your own perception of understanding...no awareness here to brush ..no openness to share...is it just attention from me you crave or an actual interaction?

[NagualHuman]

Sure I can, but answer my question with the *, because if you answer "No" I cant condense it.

[shamanka]

i didnt read your question NH..and this is a mutual attempted brushing not you continuing to project rules and conditions on another being..i cannot process projections as they pertain to the mind...it is an assumption that i have one to use in that manner..

so condense or not condense ...if you truly want interaction you'll find a way...with no boundaries

[NagualHuman]

Thats the answer,
thanks.

The Nagual lines for till this age of which I spoke of up there were bound to a Radient Blue Nagual - Maximilian
but as everything changes so does the practises of Naguliasm, there is now Transparent Green Nagual
it may seem really despotical, but all is, matters on how much we are "fucked up by it", however all the Nagual Maximilian is like the Nagual of Naguals but he because he wanted to go further beyond the boundaries further into infinity, they a little withdrawed from this world! Not entirely they are just really far,
this was seen already as there were only few Nagual Lineages. For that the Radient Blue Nagual Maximilian has already made what the Transparent Green Nagual is now doing, he builded up nagual lineages all over the world and made such a connection for sorcerers towards unknown which was new and much more "straight" but its really hardly comprehensible for me now by words what this job is composed off, the best words for it are simple "Shifting the AP of earth" this new Energy that is taking over the world and of sorcerers is not Radient like it was with all the knowledge till this age, but is Transparent... which means its really channeling elsehow. This energy is not shining and overwhelming (like lot of people like You! are still used to) but is Transparent its not grey, its almost invisible, yet very there, this new attitude of ALL KNOWLEDGE, Techniques and everything is almost completely different from the one everyone was used to from, time past... This means total new objectivity and subjectivity towards world, not unlike like changing body form, simply you see something different about me and my ways, yet you are not able to come to the total comprehension of and the answer is very simple to that...I am not Radient...I am Transparent I already am in this new kind of channeling energy, to which you will get sooner or later used to.

For you, I hope you get a coronary!
You are still imposing rules, even though you see it as the "going through fog truth" its still a rule, dont impose on my your fears of contact and I will not induce in you/contact interconnect in you the nerves that causes in you "me making havok" if you see a havok a something which should be otherwise you cant see it as something right, you cant see through when you see only the shields, only what protects me, I wonder if you actually get over that ?
I dont want to take you as you yesterday shown me, I do not want anything from you,

I ask you one question ?
Why does "it" makes you feel I do something that does not allow "proper contact" isnt that "IT" silly ?

If you still will answer my questions and act like you dont, well you play your crazy witchy game really good, but its a mere playground on which you are, I see no fire behind your words... You cant no more use that subtle wind that takes everyone around you 2nd and other dreamy stuff like that.
Are you able to use Fire to take yourself and others there ?

If you wont answer my questions I wont speak with you, because you are not beign honest and open to all possibilites and kind toward me as I am.
Simple Yes or No is enough, but you know you cant answer just like that... you are not beign kind enough... sorry me! You are not being Evil enough!

[NagualHuman]

You are just playing a selfconcerning game with me, throw away what you think of me, and stop acting like silly girl.
That does not wanna talk with that strange guy (flash...childhood), I am not him, so stop acting like that.
I cant do what you do, I dont push people into dreams, I push them out and that the problem of the black and white.
I like to push people in dreams, you too.... so where the *** is the problem ?
If you are what you are merely pretending to be you should be able to give me sober, straight like "real man" talks
without the kindness, I dont want that and thats another problem you got with me there and there

your statement
"I am really wild!, but no here."
Than you are not, show me something better than the honey you are buttering up around everyone mouths here.
I want some chilli peppers.

Just showing off the stuttering little girl who is really shy
what can you tell me about your father ???

Is this enough awareness brushing ?
or self-importance hole through bursting ?

[shamanka]

i have never been shy. neither have i ever stuttered...wrong person....
my father is an athiest, a genius IQ and a self made man.
chilli pappers are for special occasions.

i am kind for those who have no expectation of my energy...ie those who dont require a prop of some description...

the Naguals have formed a collective support of those following this path..as CC said in an interview...
"The intent has already been set"
the aim now is to get to the essence of nagualism as the underpinning collective cultural consciousness of humanity...naming individuals 'in charge' is the limitation of the knowledge available.

i dont push in dreaming, i am a battery that is available, some partake, some dont, some feel pushed because of their perception of energy...

can i shift energy/perception..plenty of other people have said so in my life..i wouldnt know, i only smile as i watch them attain increments of freedom..

that you feel i am self important is irrelevant...i dont worry about such concepts neither does your 'seeing' that i am a silly little girl.etc etc...it just lessens the respect you show for yourself....

so, i find you are not brushing my awareness at all, unless its bring up stuff for you to recap for yourself...im which case good luck with that..xx

[NagualHuman]

You asked me for my intent, I never said you will like it...
I dont like pointing out who or what is charge..yet its the only thing we do...
I never said my words of a value, yet still you try to see it that way (no word about which value! lol)
I dont think anything is relevant lol..
a battery beign ? lol you are "throw away into bin after use" or rechargable one ? lol
shift ? is there anything to shift ? lol
plenty people said lol ? does that make you charged lol ?

If something is irrelevant it should not be levered even by words of its irrelevants, thats the snake catching its tail you know what i mean that silly Charge game lol..
Charge like in charge, not charge like beign charged lol.
Nothing lessenss my respect for myself expect myself, others only lessens by words of other lessened respect by themselves for only themselves thats the one of the basic catches, I mean like catching fish lol lol and another lol imho!
Clever is that a cleaver ? lol ?

Heh, really we cant speak with each other lol, I was wrong lol! I even say that! please dont write to me anymore... looks like I still got something to work on myself lol and sad lol

I love licking lolipop, as all small girls does!

I eat chilli appers every day...honey I take at very special occasions. lol
Its funny that you are able to speak only of my attack towards "someone" I do not know who... lol ?
You said nothing about my elabore story nor bout the galactic **** n stuff lol

Seriously that much of a lol ?..... am I that much rolly loled about the stuff going on around ?

I think I need something to really make me sad not just, selfcornered *concerned and that write about my justifications of what absolutey is not right! lol

[NagualHuman]

Please excuse me for my longwided self importance..

Its just sometimes really overwhelming the outside world...

I want only one thing that I can be really off...
I want YOU to understand that people around you are the battery not yourself
we all are the same, and the longer we try to be the battery the less we are endurable.
yet we must be a battery all of us...not just one in the middle, we all are the same, we all are already equal.

Dishonesty I call reactions which try to impose some kind of NON EQUAL - no value towards something...

please dont catch me by the words I speak, I dont wish to be taken precisely with a meaning that is behind my words(different in everyones head)
I just want to be take in Consideration like anyone else...
Con...
Side and
Ration...

If you feel like that I should post more in the posts of other people, you can anytime post over me, and I will stop as I once did when you did it.
Thank you for your time, for even getting in contact with me
I think we thank other people less than we should... you ****!
this is my kind of fun, I dont make fun in kindness, I make fun in wildness, otherwise I really would get crazy like hell,
you get too much kind sometimes ?

[shamanka]

i agree everyone else is a battery..sometimes they have no clue what that means however...you are welcome to the responses NH have a nice day

[NagualHuman]

Between us naguals...I wonder if NonNagual (in means of Four comparement) not in Nagual like Unknown, if NonNagual people will understand that the Naguals are in reality telephones...draining the energy from all that batteries around

[NagualHuman]

Wudda fack is ya problem ?? I think its that you do not know or worthy of that you can.

[shamanka]

whats the matter Nh something having an effect on you?

[NagualHuman]

Yes you did.

[shamanka]

oh well...

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