My experience with Lujan Matus

[Kaomea]

You know. Sometimes curses are a blessing. So many things are paradoxy like that.

The white witch. The homeless millionaire. Beauty and the Beast.

It's your choice whether it's a curse or blessing he bestowed upon you. Curse just makes it sound more dramatic than it likely is. He caused change. Blessings and curses are the interpretation of that change.

[Kaomea]

Absyllyon wrote:
He will eventually have to account for his words.

If you just wait it out, he'll probably wind up shooting himself in the foot. He might save you the effort.

[Absyllyon]

[Absyllyon]

Absyllyon wrote:
No need for me to worry about 'been cursed in a big way' as he already did that. He will eventually have to account for his words.

Upon writing this line I experienced a visceral sensation of release, a freeing of my attention from connection to him. It seems partial but non-the-less profound. It is a freedom hard fought from a battle long lasting. It is imperative to have a understanding of the mechanisms working behind the scenes of ones relationships and affiliations with others, groups, cults and gatherings of like sympathies. One must remember ones seeing. My battle to free myself from L.M must not only be fought publicly, but also internally with ritual destruction of his literature by fire and a complete cessation in using his syntax (which I have done).

The man will take responsibility for his words and actions and will reap the whirlwind of his own creations. To those who sympathize with him, suffering will be theirs in affiliating with him with less than than the required occult knowledge. I have no intent in waiting for him to 'shoot himself in the foot' so to speak and every intent on severing the psychic/energetic link established - a link that feeds his double which is not only a manifestation of his own intent and will but of all those people that have affiliations with him. His double is the product of a numerous peoples intent and proclivities all guided by his creed and fed by their blind adoration of him, or the mythic aura he projects. To see is to see through this and discover the reason that his double does not act as he does. To know and see his past students give insight into the character of his double.

[Absyllyon]

Thank you Kaomea for your light heartedness - it somehow gave me a buoyancy and in an indefinable way incentive to act.

Thank you NathansHere for a platform to interact, and process.

[Kaomea]

Eh that sure sounds like a lot of effort to seek revenge. This seems like something you're choosing to care a lot about.

What an investment! He sure has you hooked!

I wonder what he'll do with all the energy he's harvesting from you.

I would build a boat.

A very large boat.

Maybe. An ark.

[Absyllyon]

Revenge?? I seek to clean my tonal.

An ark - perhaps you are a seer after all.

[Kaomea]

Then clean it. I hope you're not telling us about your checklist in hope of us helping you clean.

Because I just bought a new game and I'm going to be busy... maybe after.

[NathansHere]

To be honest, I don't think he did any of this to me anymore. I think it's just a spirit impersonating him.

It doesn't make sense that a guy who teaches living a life based on love, giving to others and being of service would try and kill me. And threaten me and make it obvious that it's him.

I'm going to take this post down and I'm sorry for wasting everyone's time. It doesn't seem like it's him. And most of all Lujan for tarnishing your name. But as you understand, I was going through some things and perceived his appearance following me around and doing things to me. So I did what was natural which is to warn others and so on. Sorry guys. *sigh*

[Kaomea]

At first you accuse him of being a super spy and now that he wouldn't hurt a fly.

Maybe he is both. Maybe he is neither.

Maybe he is the riddler

Oh how I love a good mystery! Secrets are so exciting! Lujan needs to come here and clarify who he really is. Is he just a boring hippie or does he moonlight as a secret spy man? The people demand answers! We have a right to know!

[Julio Juliopolis]

Kaomea wrote:
At first you accuse him of being a super spy and now that he wouldn't hurt a fly.  

Maybe he is both.  Maybe he is neither.  

Maybe he is the riddler

Oh how I love a good mystery!  Secrets are so exciting!  Lujan needs to come here and clarify who he really is.  Is he just a boring hippie or does he moonlight as a secret spy man?  The people demand answers!  We have a right to know!

But what if he doesn't know?

[Kaomea]

What if he both knows and doesn't know.

Putting people in a box only works on flat characters. Maybe Lujan is good because he helps people. Maybe he is evil because he can't help everyone. Everyone decides what he is and what he is not. Their assumptions are linear. They are correct in their assumptions, but they are not fully correct. The whole truth belongs to those with eagle vision.

[Absyllyon]

NathansHere wrote:
I'm going to take this post down and I'm sorry for wasting everyone's time. It doesn't seem like it's him. And most of all Lujan for tarnishing your name. But as you understand, I was going through some things and perceived his appearance following me around and doing things to me. So I did what was natural which is to warn others and so on. Sorry guys. *sigh*

Doubt and reconsidering your position are natural processes to go through.
You were so 'sure' and now you are so 'wrong'.
Who is to bless and who is to blame when ones perception no longer seems clear?

Are you saying now that it was your shadow? (a consolidated mass of previous action, thoughts, emotions and inclinations embodied in a form)

Why take down an excellent thread of inquiry. I have also gone through the same processes countless times and usually it originates from my chest as a sense of guilt and the anguish along with thoughts of how unjust the world is in not been an ideal and perfect place where everyones' intentions lead to heaven. I make sure to sleep on it and see how I feel the next day to week. A balance between what is happening and what religion has programed us to believe comes through holding both perspectives at the same time. The heart must be balanced with the head.

It would be good if you left it up and allowed others to come to their own conclusions. It is all part of been exposed and learning to navigate the eddies and currents of life in this bizarre world.

[Absyllyon]

NathansHere wrote:
It doesn't make sense that a guy who teaches living a life based on love, giving to others and being of service would try and kill me. And threaten me and make it obvious that it's him.

It makes all the sense in the world if you consider that this entity, this double, this egregore is a living result of his energy and the energy of his students.

[watergaze]

Hey Absyllyon, is there a way that I can DM/Private message you?
Thanks

[watergaze]

Hey Absyllyon, thanks for the private message. I don't know if this is because I'm a new member to the forum but I am unable to reply to your private message. There's literally no reply button. Is this a bug?

[watergaze]

Hey David, newly registered users don't usually have the option to PM until they post a little (it's a precaution that was put in place for certain reasons). But I changed that for you, hope it works. (If not let me know here, I will take a second look)

[watergaze]

Thanks, watergaze. That makes sense. It's still not working for me though.


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[watergaze]

please check again.

[watergaze]

Did more changes. Check again please :-)  

(P.S. these technical side posts will be removed after we resolve this issue)

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