((( The Practical Seer )))

[Sacateca]

Sacateca wrote: //www.youtube.com/v/2GKcqTJv_CM?version=3&hl=en_US


I was testing out the Crazy Talk Animator free trial version

and created this especially for a forum of skeptics

That's my voice

[Sacateca]

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"TO MICHAEL SHERMER,
I've been waiting for the right opportunity to take your stance completely apart and it seems it has been delivered to me as a “Gift of the Spirit”. You are the proverbial 'prophet' of the blind faith skeptics. People like YOU are the closest to the real God any skeptic can hope to get. Your overall view is in alignment with SATANISM. Of course you must realize this, right? Search and you will see I am indeed correct!
The big mistake of you skeptics is to BLINDLY ASSUME that God is the direct byproduct of religion. How about blindly assuming that religion is an attempt to make God a commercially sellable product! Search and see for yourself there is a great body of evidence this is indeed the case! There is no indication, I have seen, that Jesus was attempting to start a new religion. All indications were that Jesus was AGAINST RELIGION and was doing His best to give power BACK TO THE PEOPLE!!
MANY WERE THE TIMES JESUS PURPORTEDLY SAID, “YOUR FAITH HAS MADE YOU WELL!” Apparently, it was THEIR FAITH IN JESUS that healed those people, not Jesus Himself.
There are all indications it was left to man to turn Jesus into a religiously sellable product and re-enslave the masses with complicated religious theological dogma.
Look into the matter and you will find that all the “true prophets of God” were usually at odds with the established religions of the day and THOSE VERY RELIGIONS made certain that the true prophets of God WERE KILLED!!! The Jews in Israel are OBVIOUSLY primed and ready to kill any true Jesus who would dare show His face in Israel and preach the very same Gospel.
So you agree that, to be on the safe side, it's best to assume that any rustle in the bushes may very well be a dangerous predator animal, or hoodlum up to no good, right?
What all the major religions, I have studied about, have in common is that they believe the predominantly righteous will eventually be rewarded and the predominantly evil will eventually be punished. That is pretty much a commonality among the greatest religions of the world.
Also
If you SAY you believe in Jesus, or Krishna, or Allah, or Jehovah, or etc and persist in doing evil you will eventually be held to a much stricter standard than those who do evil and say they do not believe in God at all.
So, juxtapose all the greatest religions of the world and you get the picture of God as being wonderful and loving UNLESS YOU PISS HIM OFF!!!
THEN HE BECOMES WORSE THAT A PREDATORIAL ANIMAL BECAUSE
HE ALWAYS KNOWS WHERE YOU ARE
YOU CANNOT ESCAPE HIM NO MATTER WHERE YOU MAY GO!!
Okay then, using your basic logic it is best to assume there is a God, just in case!
YOU LOSE BY YOUR OWN LOGIC, SKEPTIC!!!
In the final analysis who you say you believe in is irrelevant. If you strive to live a predominantly noble and virtuous life you can assume you are relatively safe. At worst, you will find there is a God and you can say there were too many religious choices so you decided to strive to live a good and noble life and not adhere to any of them. That just might get you off the hook, if there is a God.
As for those who secretly do evil and refuse to repent of their evil...
NO WORTHWHILE GOD WILL SAVE THEM!!!!
I believe I just described YOU, Michael Shermer; for you think nothing of doing your best to shatter the faith of those who believe in God in exchange for what? Something better???
I hardly think so!
I have seen no indications that YOU have anything better to offer those who strive to do good in order to please God. Do you offer then an ironclad guarantee that when people die they will simply cease to exist?
((( NO YOU DON'T!!! )))
So how about being honest, for a change, and openly admitting this fact, skeptic!!!
You act as though you know for certain...
THAT WHICH YOU DO NOT KNOW FOR CERTAIN!!!
And, guess what?
That makes you a...
((( CON MAN!! )))
BTW: How about getting your Hindu facts straight. From my studies it is the father of Ganesh who is the most worshiped God in Hinduism. Do you know who that is? Look it up!
Considering the propensity of man to LIE I now refuse to worship anyone or anything AND I also refuse to believe ANY INFORMATION unless I have personally verified its veracity. You should do the same, skeptic. Be EXTREMELY skeptical of ANY INFORMATION you have not personally verified. If you had done this you would most certainly not have made the mistake about Ganesh. Apparently, you feel all your researched information is...infallible and inerrant."

[Sacateca]

The atheist skeptics have attacked me on all sides. 
In case you are curious here are the best of my responses to them:


"Please carefully list the things I wrote that made no sense. If, to be on the safe side. we should assume that any rustle in the bushes is either a hungry predatory animal or a hoodlum up to no good then we should assume there is a God who will eventually punish us if we persist in doing what we know in our hearts is not right.

It's not a matter of who to believe in. It's a matter of living in a manner we feel, in our hearts, is worthy to be rewarded.

How exactly does this make no sense?"





"Get a grip on reality, skeptics. YOU KNOW you have blind faith that Michael Shermer is absolutely correct in everything he says. You have such faith without empirically verifying ANY of the information he shared.

Study into the matter yourselves and see whether or not Ganesh is worshiped more than his father Shiva. You should find that Ganesh is NOT the most worshiped Hindu deity in India!

If I am wrong I am ready to openly say so. If you find YOU ARE WRONG for blindly believing whatever Michael Shermer says AT FACE VALUE you skeptics tend to pretend nothing happened. That is because YOU ARE DISHONEST and feel you can afford to be so because you say you are certain God does not exist. 

The logical course is to say: If Michael Shermer's information is incorrect on so much as ONE POINT then all his shared information and STATISTICS should be viewed with EXTREME SKEPTICISM. Well, search into the matter about Ganesh then come back here and say you have blind faith that all of Shermer's other statistics are absolutely correct, skeptics!!!!"




"TO HAVE BLIND FAITH IN EVERYTHING MICHAEL SHERMER SAYS, AT FACE VALUE, makes you skeptics just another type of religion. You may not worship, but blind faith in ANY information shared is one of the hallmarks of religion, period!"




"Ever consider you're just too ignorant to understand direct logic. YOU obviously, have blind faith that Michael Shermer is infallibly correct in everything he says. I pointed out that he is WRONG about Ganesh being the most worshiped deity in India. If he is wrong about one thing you should be EXTREMELY SKEPTICAL about everything else he presents. You can't understand this either, right?"




"Evolution, like religion, is man's futile attempt to make complete sense of the miracle of creation."




"If you know what you are talking about then clearly list the things I have stated that make no sense. If you cannot to this then do us all a favor and SHUT UP!!! I'm sick to hell tired of you **** jackasses who think there is something wrong with me because you are too dumb to understand simple logic!!! YOU KNOW you blind faith believe everything Michael Shermer teaches, ****!!!!

If not, then list the things, from this video, Michael Shermer teaches that you disagree with!!!"






"I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND WILL STRIVE TO DEFEND MY POSITION. WHATEVER I CANNOT PROPERLY DEFEND WILL BE UPGRADED, THANKS TO YOUR EFFORT. 

OKAY THEN HERE WE GO:


"Please carefully list the things I wrote that made no sense." Okay,

1. "Your overall view is in alignment with SATANISM." For skeptics and atheists, the concepts of god and satan are equally implausible, unlikely, and not supported by physical or measurable evidence.

MY RESPONSE:

The official church of Satan purportedly does NOT believe there is an actual being who exists and is called Satan. To these Satanists, who believe in The Satanic Bible, their take on reality is in harmonious alignment with Michael Shermer's. If you were wise you would have researched into this before spouting your ignorance! Instead you obviously jumped to ignorant conclusions; even as Michael Shermer did when he stated that Ganesh is the most worshiped deity in India



2. "The big mistake of you skeptics is to BLINDLY ASSUME that God is the direct byproduct of religion." No, we think that god is the product of an overactive, pattern-seeking top-down mindset in order to explain that which we don't understand; that we create gods in our own image. But we accept there may be biological mechanisms driving this propensity.

MY RESPONSE:

This "pattern-seeking top-down mindset" you speak of is pushed by be religions, correct? Who else pushes this mindset with greater vigor? So, you are agreeing with me thinking you are not agreeing with me. How about using your brains before you spout out a response.



3. "How about blindly assuming that religion is an attempt to make God a commercially sellable product! Search and see for yourself there is a great body of evidence this is indeed the case!"
 You've said skeptics assume religion was created to make money from god? and yet "skeptics... BLINDLY ASSUME that God is the direct byproduct of religion."? So skeptics think religion came first, followed by god, but then religion followed god so people could make money from god. Do you see the flaw in logic here? It makes no sense at all.

And that is just from the first 8 lines of your 95 line incoherent ramble. I'm not going to analyze the rest as you are unlikely to find it helpful, even if you were to read it, and it is a waste of my time. Good luck.

MY RESPONSE:

If you read the Bible you should find there is no indication that Jesus was trying to start a new religion. All indications are JESUS WAS AGAINST RELIGION and wanted to give power back to the people. 

I have found that when atheist skeptics say they don't believe in God what they actually mean is THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN RELIGION. Why? Because they tend to blindly assume that God was created by religions to trick and control the masses, period.

I present the alternative that Jesus demonstrated. Jesus made it very clear that religions had perverted the way of the True and Living God. Jesus violently insulted the religious leaders so much that they were enraged to the point of killing Him. So, keep this in mind when you atheist skeptic types put down religion because Jesus would most probably agree with you for the same basic reasons!!!

You skeptic atheist types may think you are against religion, but are you against religion to the point of publicly insulting the greatest religious leaders and calling them names they found so offensive they wanted to kill you? NO, RIGHT? So your gripe with religions is NOWHERE NEAR as profoundly antagonistic as Jesus' was. He purportedly turned over the tables of the money changer in the temple court and fashioned a whip and started whipping the greedy people!!! Do you really think you hate religious hypocrisy more than Jesus did?"





" I say: those who blindly believe books, CREATED BY HUMANS, to be infallible and inerrant are unwitting IDOL WORSHIPERS and are indeed INSANE!!! History will back me up on this!

Now, what flaw do you skeptic atheists see with my reasoning in my statement?

My belief in the existence of God comes through my 5 near-death experiences NOT FROM RELIGION!!!"





"I say: those who blindly believe books, CREATED BY HUMANS, to be infallible and inerrant are unwitting IDOL WORSHIPERS and are indeed INSANE!!! History will back me up on this!

Now, what flaw do you skeptic atheists see with my reasoning in my statement?

WELL, WHERE IT THE FLAW IN MY REASONING HERE!!!!

CAN'T FIND ANY, RIGHT ****!!!!!!!

You and your kind would like to blanket brand me because you are blind faith believing morons in Michael Shermer and people like him!!

OH, YOU DISAGREE??

WELL THEN, WHAT DO YOU DISAGREE WITH IN WHAT MICHAEL SHERMER SAID?

((( NOTHING, RIGHT? )))

You're a skeptic, blind faith believing ****!!!!!"





"YOU WROTE: "Yes, I agree with you if you accept evolutionary biology as the best descriptor for the existence of life on earth."

MY RESPONSE:  I've been tricked too many times. I now ONLY BELIEVE that which I personally verify as true. I no longer blindly believe ANY authority figures or ANYTHING they may tell me unless I personally verify it. 

YOU SHOULD LEARN THIS IMPORTANT LESSON!!

For you APPARENTLY blindly believe everything Michael Shermer states in this video without personally verifying it and that is BLIND FAITH INDEED!!!!

You skeptic types are very much like the blind faith religious in that you ACT as though you know things for certain THAT YOU DON'T KNOW FOR CERTAIN!!

JUST BECAUSE YOU (((THINK))) THERE IS NO GOD

DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN THERE IS NO GOD!!!!"





"BULLSHIT!! The statement I made about people blindly believing books comes straight from my heart. I didn't make it to uphold atheist skeptic beliefs. It is the core of my CURRENT beliefs AND NOT JUST TOWARD RELIGION, but towards **** atheist skeptics who blindly believe THEIR SCIENCE BOOKS!!!!

Yes, people like YOU who blindly believe authority figures like Michael Shermer at face value, EVEN AFTER I pointed out his error about Ganesh being the most worshiped deity in India!!!!!

You don't want to see just how wrong you might be about a great many things. You blindly believe the "OFFICIAL STORY" on any scientific matter like the good little proverbial 'trained monkey-boy' that you are!!!"





"I don't blindly believe ANYTHING I have not personally verified. I will not deny my empirical experiences to please the scientific world. I empirically verify that the sun goes around the Earth. As for the Earth revolving...that is mythology to me. It may be true, BUT NOT FROM MY PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE!!!

It may only be true for those who live out in space

WELL, I DON'T LIVE OUT IN SPACE!!!!

I do not perceive the world to be a sphere or round or perfectly flat

ALTHOUGH I WILL OPENLY ADMIT that the only time my bicycle wants to roll by itself is when I am on a hill. When I am on FLAT GROUND my bicycle DOES NOT want to roll anywhere so that is evidence that the Earth is very flat except in hilly areas.

I COULD BE WRONG ABOUT MANY THINGS

AND SO COULD YOU!!!!

I suggest you keep an open mind always ready to find your are wrong about a great many things"





" Like it or not MY LIFE IS ALL ABOUT ME just as YOUR LIFE is all about YOU!!! That's just the way it is whether you want to believe it or not!! I have my own personal universe, I exist at the center of, and it is completely different from YOUR personal universe. 

I don't claim to know what exactly happened in my near-death experiences. They could all have been some sort of elaborate dreams or...

THE WORLD WE EXPERIENCE COULD BE SOME SORT

OF ELABORATE DREAM!!!!

The scientific opinions about near-death experience differ between the atheist view and opinions of those who believe some sort of intelligence is in charge of the reality we experience

Just because YOUR authority figure does not believe in God and writes about near-death experiences from that perspective does not automatically mean he is correct. The converse is also true. If you are truly wise you will agree with this statement.

Purportedly, Einstein did NOT want to believe the discoveries of Quantum Mechanics, but after many years of fighting against those discoveries he eventually gave up and had to admit HE WAS WRONG!!!! Yes, Einstein was WRONG to fight against the latest discoveries of Quantum Mechanics.

WHAT MIGHT YOUR PRECIOUS ATHEIST SKEPTICS

((( LIKE MICHAEL SHERMER )))

BE WRONG ABOUT, EH?

HE WAS WRONG ABOUT GANESH. I suggest you take that as a sign of more WRONG assumptions of his"

[seesaw]

Sacateca, in recognition of your being i am awarding you gold medals in 'troll slaying' and services towards the cultivation of 'unbending intent in the face of adversity'.

I am humbled by your work, and bow in respect.

I hope that you continue to fight the good fight my friend, and enjoy your victories.

[Sacateca]

I ENTERED THE ABOVE IN THE SKEPTICS FORUM WITH THIS FOLLOW UP POST:


MY ABOVE RESPONSES

ARE IMPORTANT IN THIS FORUM OF SKEPTICS

FOR THEY REFLECT MY REACTIONS

TO THE TYPES OF RESPONSES THE MOST INTELLIGENT OF 

YOU BLIND FAITH SKEPTICS WOULD GIVE





THE PROBLEM IS:

WE HAVE ALL BE SUBJECTED TO AN AGENDA

TO MAKE US DOCILE AND TO ACCEPT

THE DOCTRINE OF AUTHORITY FIGURES ON 'BLIND FAITH'

WHETHER IT BE FROM RELIGION, SCIENCE, 

THE DAILY NEWS OR ANYTHING!




CRITICAL THINKING ESSENTIALLY MEANS:

((( THINKING FOR YOURSELVES )))

AND

((( COMING TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS ABOUT MATTERS )))



UNFORTUNATELY,



YOU BLIND FAITH SKEPTICS ALLOW PEOPLE LIKE MICHAEL SHERMER

TO DO YOUR THINKING FOR YOU AND YOU BLINDLY FEEL

THIS IS A SIGN THAT YOU ARE CRITICAL THINKERS!!!




IN ACTUALITY,




((( YOU ARE BLIND FAITH BELIEVING, BRAINWASHED FOOLS!!! )))

[Sacateca]

seesaw wrote:Sacateca, in recognition of your being i am awarding you gold medals in 'troll slaying' and services towards the cultivation of 'unbending intent in the face of adversity'.

I am humbled by your work, and bow in respect.

I hope that you continue to fight the good fight my friend, and enjoy your victories.Garsh...thanks!
I'm not used to being awarded in such a manner. I am humbled

If you study my responses to the skeptics you should learn valuable information of how to deal with them as don Juan

((( PETTY TYRANTS )))

To be able to beat a petty tyrant at his own game is a true "Act of Power". When you find such a petty tyrant your great fortune should not be wasted!!

I will now share my developed strategy for defeating the Castaneda skeptics. When I finally refined this strategy to the point where it could not be defeated...I was banned from 

Sustained Reactions Castaneda's Legacy Forum:

http://sustainedreaction.yuku.com/forum ... yq2LvldW_g

Here is the strategy in a 'nut' shell:

Castaneda was NOT a fraud! From my studies he was an ACTUAL New York Times bestselling author MULTIPLE TIMES!! To the best of my knowledge, Castaneda also earned a Ph.D from UCLA. It was NOT a fraudulent Ph.D!!!

OBVIOUSLY, Castaneda had to be fully honest in portraying himself in his early books or people would have been calling him a fraud from the very beginning. So, I believe we can rest assured that Carlos Castaneda was indeed the dumb, insensitive fool of his early books. He was a fool who could NEVER come up with the don Juan philosophy on his own.

Skeptics tend to say the Castaneda made up the character of don Juan. Well, if he did then he was one of the greatest fictional writers of the 20th century. Now even Mark Twain's character shared greater wisdom than Castaneda's don Juan. It's for certain the Mark Twain's character DID NOT jump-start and entire spiritual movement. At least not from my studies.

So, if there was no actual don Juan then Castaneda was one of the greatest fictional writers of the 20th century!!!

To fool the anthropology department into giving him a Ph.D was, to my knowledge, a first in UCLA history and that is something extraordinarily remarkable indeed!!!

Do you skeptics want him to be remembered as one of the slickest and most extraordinarily wise authors of the 20th century?


MY COMMENT:

There is no way around the fact that to say Castaneda made don Juan up makes him a literary genius. Then those who went to the Sunday sessions, like Jeremy Donovan, would have you blindly believe them in that Castaneda was no genius, period!!!!

It's a proverbial "Catch 22" in which you can easily put the Castaneda skeptic petty tyrants into a proverbial checkmate position from which they cannot escape...except by banning you from their skeptics forum.

[Sacateca]

seesaw wrote:Sacateca, in recognition of your being i am awarding you gold medals in 'troll slaying' and services towards the cultivation of 'unbending intent in the face of adversity'.
I am humbled by your work, and bow in respect. 
I hope that you continue to fight the good fight my friend, and enjoy your victories.Garsh...thanks!
I'm not used to being awarded in such a manner. I am humbled

If you study my responses to the skeptics you should learn valuable information of how to deal with them as don Juan

((( PETTY TYRANTS )))

To be able to beat a petty tyrant at his own game is a true "Act of Power". When you find such a petty tyrant your great fortune should not be wasted!!

I will now share my developed strategy for defeating the Castaneda skeptics. When I finally refined this strategy to the point where it could not be defeated...I was banned from 

Sustained Reactions Castaneda's Legacy Forum:

http://sustainedreaction.yuku.com/forum ... yq2LvldW_g

Here is the strategy in a 'nut' shell:

Castaneda was NOT a fraud! From my studies he was an ACTUAL New York Times bestselling author MULTIPLE TIMES!! To the best of my knowledge, Castaneda also earned a Ph.D from UCLA. It was NOT a fraudulent Ph.D!!!

OBVIOUSLY, Castaneda had to be fully honest in portraying himself in his early books or people would have been calling him a fraud from the very beginning. So, I believe we can rest assured that Carlos Castaneda was indeed the dumb, insensitive fool of his early books. He was a fool who could NEVER come up with the don Juan philosophy on his own.

Skeptics tend to say Castaneda made up the character of don Juan. Well, if he did then he was one of the greatest fictional writers of the 20th century! Now even Mark Twain's characters shared greater wisdom than Castaneda's don Juan. It's for certain that Mark Twain's characters DID NOT jump-start and entire spiritual movement. At least not from my studies.

So, if there was no actual don Juan then Castaneda was one of the greatest fictional writers of the 20th century!!!

To fool the anthropology department into giving him a Ph.D was, to my knowledge, a first in UCLA history and that is something extraordinarily remarkable indeed!!!

Do you skeptics want him to be remembered as one of the slickest and most extraordinarily wise authors of the 20th century?


MY COMMENT:

There is no way around the fact that to say Castaneda made don Juan up makes him a literary genius. Then those who went to the Sunday sessions, like Jeremy Donovan, would have you blindly believe them in that Castaneda was no genius, period!!!!

It's a proverbial "Catch 22" in which you can easily put the Castaneda skeptic petty tyrants into a proverbial checkmate position from which they cannot escape...except by banning you from their skeptics forum.

I find it is very important to qualify everything you state that you have not personally verified as absolute truth with words like

I believe

Supposedly

Purportedly

etc

[Sacateca]

seesaw wrote:Sacateca, in recognition of your being i am awarding you gold medals in 'troll slaying' and services towards the cultivation of 'unbending intent in the face of adversity'.
I am humbled by your work, and bow in respect. 
I hope that you continue to fight the good fight my friend, and enjoy your victories.Garsh...thanks!
I'm not used to being awarded in such a manner. I am humbled

If you study my responses to the skeptics you should learn valuable information of how to deal with them as don Juan

((( PETTY TYRANTS )))

To be able to beat a petty tyrant at his own game is a true "Act of Power". When you find such a petty tyrant your great fortune should not be wasted!!

I will now share my developed strategy for defeating the Castaneda skeptics. When I finally refined this strategy to the point where it could not be defeated...I was banned from 

Sustained Reactions Castaneda's Legacy Forum:

http://sustainedreaction.yuku.com/forum ... yq2LvldW_g

Here is the strategy in a 'nut' shell:

Castaneda was NOT a fraud! From my studies he was an ACTUAL New York Times bestselling author MULTIPLE TIMES!! To the best of my knowledge, Castaneda also earned a Ph.D from UCLA. It was NOT a fraudulent Ph.D!!!

OBVIOUSLY, Castaneda had to be fully honest in portraying himself in his early books or people would have been calling him a fraud from the very beginning. So, I believe we can rest assured that Carlos Castaneda was indeed the dumb, insensitive fool of his early books. He was a fool who could NEVER come up with the don Juan philosophy on his own.

Skeptics tend to say Castaneda made up the character of don Juan. Well, if he did then he was one of the greatest fictional writers of the 20th century! Not even Mark Twain's characters shared greater wisdom than Castaneda's don Juan. It's for certain that Mark Twain's characters DID NOT jump-start and entire spiritual movement. At least not from my studies.

So, if there was no actual don Juan then Castaneda was one of the greatest fictional writers of the 20th century!!!

To fool the anthropology department into giving him a Ph.D was, to my knowledge, a first in UCLA history and that is something extraordinarily remarkable indeed!!!

Do you skeptics want him to be remembered as one of the slickest and most extraordinarily wise authors of the 20th century?


MY COMMENT:

There is no way around the fact that to say Castaneda made don Juan up makes him a literary genius. Then those who went to the Sunday sessions, like Jeremy Donovan, would have you blindly believe them in that Castaneda was no genius, period!!!!

It's a proverbial "Catch 22" in which you can easily put the Castaneda skeptic petty tyrants into a proverbial checkmate position from which they cannot escape...except by banning you from their skeptics forum.

I find it is very important to qualify everything you state that you have not personally verified as absolute truth with words like

I believe

Supposedly

Purportedly

etc

[Sacateca]

//www.youtube.com/v/mdy1XcZod4A?hl=en_US&version=3



I created this short segment edited from a video about the actual existence of mermaids

This is so don Juan mind-boggling that no matter how many time I may view it

I am still left dumbfounded

I mean, this can't be real

IT CAN'T BE!!!

and yet....

[Littlepaw]

Sacateca,

How goes it? It is very relevant to me as the camera pans around the audience during Michael Shermer's presentation (for lack of a better word) to see Richard Dawkins perhaps nodding his head in total agreement with Shermer maybe even looking to for better ways to fight the hoards of misguided fanatics and believers with, no doubt, his mind already made up before he sat down. My mind settles on the (Hi) story of great book burnings, inquisition and witch trials, shudder. Dawkins as well as writing the God delusion actually wanders the globe in search of religious men, spiritualists, thinkers in order to, no doubt, reveal them all for the misguided charlatans they truly are so it was only right to me to despise him, to wish him to fail, to wish for him to able to see things the way I do. Oops! Iv'e been here before, why can't you just see things my way Dawkins?!?!?! But you don't and I need to be ok with that. The fact is like you said Sacateca Jesus was reportedly and I likewise am totally against this Religious hypocrisy which protects child molesters, wages war under the banner of God and supports hate and division of the human race and I start to wonder Is Dawkins doing us all a favor? Is he a holy man in disguise, is he fighting with same disgust as Jesus and I against the manipulation and misdeeds of organized religion? Do I have so little faith in what I know that Dawkins would ever be able to unmask me as a fraud? Would he not see in the end by default that he was only half right? That after doing away with everything unnecessary all that would be left is the truth!

The story goes that the old Toltec seers, suddenly in mortal danger from their new oppressors learned a great deal from having to adapt and that those who did not learn to change were eliminated but what did they learn? perhaps they learned to accept their oppressors for what they were and to see them as a challenge. Can I love Dawkins even though we disagree? If i cannot do ought but despise him then why should he not want to crush me and my hypocritical beliefs? Food for thought I hope : )

[Sacateca]

While reading your post I felt I was being admonished by the Spirit 
for spending too much time trying to defeat skeptics. It is time and energies 

that should be better invested.

My overall goals are direct and simple:


To attract and manifest greater strength, health and overflowing prosperity

To live an increasingly grateful and appreciative life

To develop upon my artistic talents towards lovingly entertaining Mother Nature

To learn to use every adversity and circumstance to my overall advantage, through laughter

To strive to live always prepared to die honorably and with as clear a conscience as possible


That's basically it

Whatever activity or thought that does not help me realize my goals should be curtailed as it should be remembered that psychologically checkmating atheist skeptics is NOT ON THAT LIST!!!!

[Littlepaw]

One of the very first things I ever actually learned while on the Warriors path came to me one day a good friend and I walked the winding path to our home. I asked my friend if he ever has imaginary conversations in his head with people and he said yes. I did too and the nature of these conversations or imaginings quite often became violent!!!!! I told my friend that I would perhaps start out imagining a conversation with someone but soon it would turn in to some kind of alternate then violence. My friend and I had uncovered something important and from that day these violent imaginary conversations of mine were doomed.

Funnily enough due to mind boggling changes in my life these conversations have been creeping back in, an imaginary conversation with Dawkins here an imaginary violent confrontation with someone who has pissed me off there! I sometimes like to save the world or be someones hero and although it is surely admirable I want to be a hero it would be much better to actually be it rather than spend my life imagining it, funny stuff.

[Sacateca]

I believe that a true warrior does his best to become self-sufficient
and his own hero! That's more than hero enough for me!

The ability to stop the internal dialogue, at will, is by far the most important tool

in the warrior's proverbial tool box. Anyone who can stop his internal dialogue at will

can also stop any negative conversations of the imagination at will


A truly strong and properly disciplined mind leaves no room

for any unwanted entities to dwell and take hold

Such beings do not want to be forced to play by the host's rules

and tend to flee a clean, strong, determinedly disciplined environment

...or so I'm being led to believe in my imagination

[Littlepaw]

: )

[Sacateca]

The staunch atheist skeptic is fond of saying things like

"That's just your imagination"

to anything that seems implausible to their little 'box' view of reality


I will agree that for the weak-minded imagination is nothing much,

but for the strong, disciplined and determined mind

IMAGINATION IS THE VERY CORE OF CREATIVITY!!!


Look around you and you will see you are surrounded

and even wearing things that were once a figment

of someone's imagination


I venture that if there truly was a Jesus God was speaking to Him

through Jesus' imagination


The wise will not treat imagination as though

it is "just" an anything 

UNTIL THEY FULLY UNDERSTAND IT!!

[Sacateca]

The staunch atheist skeptic is fond of saying things like

"That's just your imagination"

to anything that seems implausible to their little 'box' view of reality


I will agree that for the weak-minded imagination is nothing much,

but for the strong, disciplined and determined mind

IMAGINATION IS THE VERY CORE OF CREATIVITY!!!


Look around you and you will see you are surrounded

and even wearing things that were once a figment

of someone's imagination


I venture that if there truly was a Jesus God was speaking to Him

through Jesus' imagination


The wise will not treat imagination as though

it is "just" an anything 

UNTIL THEY FULLY UNDERSTAND IT!!

[Guest]

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Here's the core problem, as I see it: Unless a person's spiritual body is awakened and properly 'breathing' it can be like trying to explain the sentient nature of the universe to someone who is literally asleep. They can't understand. They can't conceive it to be real.

If Deepak is going to convince the spiritually comatose asleep that there true is an intelligence behind the reality we are experiencing YOU HAVE TO SHOW THEM!!!! If you cannot show them all you have are words and they will counter with their words.

The final outcome will always be a stalemate; even as it has always been. Deepak will never convince them and they will never convince Deepak. However, I must admit that at least Deepak has the courage to confront the atheist skeptics in a public forum. That takes guts alright and I applaud him for that!

Obviously, there are scientists who feel there is a controlling intelligence behind the reality we experience and there are scientists who do not and this expands into the field of quantum mechanics. Each side of the proverbial coin has scientists who are firmly convinced THEIR particular point of view is the most correct. Until someone SHOWS THEM DIFFERENT chances are it will always remain this way for, I feel, words will NOT awaken the spiritually comatose asleep and that's all there is to it!

Notice how Michael Shermer is so spiritually comatose dead he can't even respond to Deepak. All he can really do is say he's wrong. If it wasn't for the other guy Shermer would be exposed, by Deepak, as THE **** HE TRULY IS!!!!!

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So the question is:
How does my concern over the blind faith spiritually dead atheist types contribute to my overall goals in life?

Well, such people help to make me more determined than ever to be fully successful in the achieving of my goals

I am determined to completely prove them wrong IN MY LIFE, and that's proof enough for me

I am now MORE DETERMINED after viewing those videos 

and I can use all the motivation I can get for to fully achieve my goals 

I HAVE TO REALLY, REALLY WANT THOSE GOALS TO FULLY MANIFEST!!! 

'Sort of', 'kind of' just doesn't cut it

UNLESS I HAVE A SUSTAINED BURNING DESIRE TO MANIFEST ALL MY GOALS

THEY WILL NEVER MANIFEST!!!!

So, that which fires my determination to succeed IS FUEL INDEED!!!



...as long as I don't overdo it....

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Chopra answers Michael Shermer's questions and the answers bounce off his thick head leaving no impression whatsoever. So Shermer ends up as though the questions were not answered at all. This is one of the sure signs of the spiritually comatose dead.

The only way I know of to make any real spiritual progress is to control and stop the internal dialogue AT WILL. Until Michael Shermer can get past his preconceived notions of what reality is he can never experience reality directly. The reality he perceives will ALWAYS be filtered and limited by what Shermer THINKS reality is.

For example, when he knocks on his electronic pad quantum science says he is not actually knocking on anything solid. He is knocking on energy that SEEMS solid and that solidity is an illusion. THAT'S THE SCIENCE Shermer supposedly believes in and yet...he obviously doesn't believe it!!!!! MAKE UP YOUR MIND, SHERMER. EITHER YOU BELIEVE SCIENCE OR YOU DON'T!!!!


Shermer's problem is he feels if there is a God he MUST be able to comfortably fit in Shermer's preconceived notion of reality. HOWEVER, there is no more room in Shermer's proverbial cup for anything to fit!!! Shermer's mind is like an unbroken chain of certainties he refuses to accept may be incorrect in any way. Shermer is dead certain reality is totally the way it appears no matter what new discoveries in Quantum Physics may state. 

The concept of TEMPORARILY erasing one's personal history can only be PROPERLY accomplished through advanced meditation where one develops the ability to stop one's internal dialogue at will. Until Michael Shermer can do this I believe he will never be able to get past the barrier of his preconceived notions of what he THINKS reality is.

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THE KAABA STONE FROM MECCA

AT THE CENTER OF A GALAXY


I haven't personally tested this belief, but from what I have studied, I believe that if you take only the very, very best and greatest teachings from the greatest, most enduring religions known to to man the teachings will fit together so seamlessly that it will sound like they were all stated by the very same person.
That's something to consider!

If true it says something very important alright

God in His many disguises