Is this moving the AP?

[ranma187]

about a month ago. I was practicing meditation while pondering some of the stories from "The Power of Silence"
Anyway during the meditation I felt like i was walking or floating through a tunnel. I had a strange sensation That i knew things that i could not describe. I also noticed My Duality.
I suddenly knew the other side of me lacked any signs of a destructive ego. after the meditation I still felt like that in fact. i felt that "robert" (my name) was actually far away. I suddenly had no ambition or desire to achieve anything materially.
I went to the mirror to check the shine of my eyes. I had this strange cold look in my eyes, similar to the look my dad had when he one day decided to push his limits of sanity. (that's another story I'll post about soon).
I went into the living room to smoke a cigarette. as i was walking i noticed somebody sitting in my chair. I stared at him for a moment and he suddenly vanished into a fog. I got my smoke and sat down enjoying my sudden soundness of mind.
then it hit me: The way i was sitting in the chair was the same manner that i had saw the vanishing figure sitting. I didn't understand, Was it my double? or a hallucination? or something else?
anyway i went to bed after. and i haven't been able to achieve that state of mind i was in since.
so my question is: Did my Assemblage point shift?

[ranma187]

WOW!
I'm amazed That this could happen so soon. Can anyone tell me how i can reach this place again?

[SSilhouette]

Quote:I suddenly knew the other side of me lacked any signs of a destructive ego. after the meditation I still felt like that in fact. i felt that "robert" (my name) was actually far away. I suddenly had no ambition or desire to achieve anything materially.
Yes, the other side of you (your second attention) does lack destructive ego. And I too have experienced my name as being far away. In fact, you bring up an interesting point. When I started sorcery, unbeknownst, way back before I read Castaneda, I began getting a sensation that my name did not seem 'correct' for me. That sensation has increased over time. I would say it increases in direct proportion to how much of the human form one loses.
Seeing one's double can happen straight away to some people. As with anything, talent is individual and can facilitate certain aspects of sorcery with great ease, while others remain harder to acheive. Much like with any learning experience in any field.
And now: back to your regularly scheduled (de)programming...

[ranma187]

Thanks for your input. I've tried several times to continually reach my second attention again without success. How strange! I Remember reaching it so easily yet now it is So elusive!
But i guess it's the part i have to figure out on my own!

[Bob May]

<<I'm amazed That this could happen so soon. Can anyone tell me how i can reach this place again? >><br><br>In the Old Testament it is called building an altar or setting up a stone. It is a way of marking a place in consciousness.<br>My old teacher said the way to go back to an experience is to "remember the feeling" of the experience.<br>These two are really the same thing. <br>The rules to building an altar in Scripture are that it must be an "unhewn" stone. in other words,it is not carved into a shape or changed by tools in any way.<br><br>Jacob used a stone for a pillow and slept and had a dream.<br>He saw a ladder set up that reached from heaven to earth. (lines of the earth?). At the top of the ladder he saw his Lord. When he woke, he "set the stone up" and said "surely, the Lord is in this place and I knew it not".<br>And the he named the place Beth El or house of God.<br><br>He was not naming a place on a map. He was marking and naming a place in his spiritual experiences. He could and would have had this experience no matter where he was. It was an awareness that there is a framework (ladder/lines of the earth) that permeates this world and that behind it, and above it God stands.<br>Being that the stone he set up is not cut with tools, but only set up on end, there is not anything we can really do to set it up. Except pay Special Attention to these EXPERIENCES and NAME THEM.<br>You will notice that these spiritual experiences seem somehow Familiar, even though it is the first time you have experienced them. This is because you are not on a Journey to somewhere you have never been, but on a Quest to Return to a place where you have come from.<br><br>My teacher once told me, when I asked him basically the same question that you did: That sometimes we are given an experience that is way beyond our ability to comprehend.<br>And that it may be years before we can reach it again.<br>I have named them: the "Coat of Many Colors", "Liquid Blue/White Lightening", the "Darkness Which can Be Felt", etc, etc. I will have these experiences again someday.<br>Your experience sounds more like an ability you will come to have over and over and begin to develop and master.<br>Hope this helps, and good luck.<div class='signature'>Bright Flame</div>

[Bob May]

I believe that people live up to there names. But also that our names will change according to our awareness.
I did not like my name until I found out what it MEANT.
I've always gone by my middle name: Robert or Bob.
It has both positive and negative meanings as many names do. "Man of Renoun", "Bright in Fame", "Bright Flame".
Man of Renoun has a very shady meaning.
In the Bible, the Men of Renoun are the offspring of the "Fallen Angels" and the "Daughters of Men". God was "Wroth" (very angry) because of that event.
So, I don't give that meaning any power over me. I choose instead to look at it as "Bright Flame".
My entire name, first, last and middle means: "Bright Flame, Dwelling in the Valley of Illusion".
I think that that is a good name to try and live up to.
It is also true. This is a "Valley of Illusion".
I am surrounded by the darkness like everyone else here, but, at least occasionally, I have been allowed to stand at the opening of the cave to glimpse what lies beyond in the light. At times, I have been abl to share that light with a few of my fellow "cave dwellers".
That's a good thing.
A change in name is a change in awareness.
Jacob, in the Old Testament had many spiritual experiences with God and angels. Each time this happened to him his name changed from Jacob: (the supplanter) to Israel: (Power with man, Power with God). This new name was given to him by an angel whom he "wrestled til the breaking of the dawn", and then demanded a blessing from. He earned it!
In the book of "Revelation", in the New Testament" those who overcome are given a "New Name". They also earned it.
Good luck on your new name, but first do some research on your old one. You may find that it suits you and that you may have to earn a new one.
Bright Flame

[ranma187]

It didn't feel like a "Spiritual experience" to me. I always try to Demystify some of this stuff. To me it is more like And experience in which i was more aware and able to pervieve much more than i normally do.
the effect i had was similar to when i tried Salvia. but of course, way less intense or terriffying.
i had already thought of a name the very night i had the experience. Winter - because my eyes were so ruthless and cold!

[Aranno Way]

In my opinion it was a I.B. and you alighned yourself with it and by doing so it gave you the feeling of the freedom of perception or power.

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