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[Daraawiish]

srloco, you are wrong Don Juan wouldnt ever harm anyone who given himself at mercy, on contrary don juan is one of the most wholehearted people I knew, Carlos was in reality his own "misfortune maker" for he tried at all costs to remain in his world and enter but also did not knew, which made him very clever and gave us readers quite amount of funny moments

[lightsoul]

Whisperings of the DragonShadows in the Twilight: Conversations with a ShamanNarrator Review
As a non-fiction narrator, it’s a pleasant surprise when I can
find a compelling knock-your-socks-off book to narrate. I have to get
pretty intimate with the books I voice and spend a great deal of time
with the subject by the time I’ve finished producing the book.

“Shadows in the Twilight: Conversations With a Shaman” blew me
away. I kept getting goose bumps while recording. Now I can’t stop
thinking about it. This conversation between Bill Ham and the nagual
Lujan Matus weaves philosophy, physics, religion, self-help, and magic
into a coherent template for our lives, our troubled world, and our
purpose.

I’m curious about who else will be moved by this work.

[serloco]

Daraawiish wroterloco, you are wrong Don Juan wouldnt ever harm anyone who given himself at mercy, on contrary don juan is one of the most wholehearted people I knew, Carlos was in reality his own "misfortune maker" for he tried at all costs to remain in his world and enter but also did not knew, which made him very clever and gave us readers quite amount of funny moments
Who said don Juan hurt people or wanted too, because i didn`t. And so what exactly am I wrong about. He sure did call it as he saw it and didn`t cater to people`s self-importance. I remember him telling Carlos the truth of how he felt about him. That it was a challenge to put up with his constant bullshit all the time, his self-importance and many other things he constantly had to deal with. He pretty much said that he didn`t even really like Carlos and was not doing it for Carlos but for himself. I do not follow don Juan`s feelings or awareness regarding many things personally. I have surpassed many of his teachings, and see that some of teachings come from one position of awareness whereas some of his better teachings come from another position entirely contrary to some of his other teachings. I follow the most powerful and free teachings only, as well as the ones from the heart. I know that don Juan was a grreat and wise man and am greatful for his teachings which have led me beyond who i was and helped make me who I am today.

[lightsoul]

serloco wrote:Who said he hurt people or wanted too, because he didn`t. And so what exactly am I wrong about.
He sure did call it as he saw it and didn`t cater to people`s self-importance.
I remember him telling me the truth of how he felt about me.
That it was a challenge to put up with my constant bullshit all the time, my self-importance and many other things he constantly had to deal with.
He pretty much said that he didn`t even really like me.

[Daraawiish]

Making excuses and insults, and justifiing them by telling that someone else does this too, is not just cowardly, but also arogant and childish.

[Daraawiish]

No Ego, please.

[serloco]

trinsic wrote:All that really matters is the reason why you are talking about it. You are free to do as you like, and people are free to respond to you the way they like.
That quote came from my heart, call it what you like it does not change the intent in which it was given.
I think I remembered Don Juan was humble about his knowledge and didnt try to use his knowledge to make others appear less than him. He called people out on their own Self-Importance, but his motives were to bring people to a higher level of awareness.

My impression of your statements around the weaknesses of others appear to harm rather than help, I can see why someone would get the idea that you are trying to weaken people. Knowledge is worthless without ruthlessness (not harshness), cunning (not cruelty), patience (not negligence), and sweetness (not foolishness).
My intent is to point out where I think you could use some work, not that everything you say is worthless you are very intelligent and aware, but you use power without cultivating humbleness and IMHO that just makes things worse. Im sure I have my share of weaknesses so your free to point them out and I hope to learn from them .
 
yeah i see you, you are trying to be what you think is right and good, and also to look like that in the eyes of others. its good to be waht you think is right, and to recognize our self-importance so to be the way around it. i expose the essence of self-importance for what it is when i confront it in another, I am aware that it may hurt them to see this truth, their ego will surely be damaged. but their ego is not true. they thought they were great and good in telling others about the new poison that is in their food, but really they were hurting them and using dark magic to hook the gaze of their loved ones to this form, the ones who trust him. not very pretty, and i call it directly as I see it and give the knowledge and awareness as to what is happening when they do this and how not to do this. And you tell me i am here to weaken. I am ruthless yes, but I damaged was an illusion and a lie and a damaging awareness and knowledge. I empowered the reader to no longer curse the forms of the world to align into the assemblage position of reality, and exposed the awareness of how curses and damaging knowledges are created. Who would not want this knowledge and power! ANd you say I weaken when I only exposed an already existing weakness.  removed the truth and the power to protect his false self image of himself and his to hide his own actions. he will probably take my awareness and write it in one of his great books of his and claim it as his own.

personal history here, well it certainly cant hurt me can it, as if most people even have the power to hold me in some image they have of me, and if they see me for what i am and listen to my experiences and tales of power, my kniowledge and my awareness that i share that you say is personal history then their awareness of which is true will only place me in the position of my power. That is my life and i am not afreain to share it. If you are weak and if you are fearrful of the power of others to hold you then you shuld not share your stories with others, in that position of awareness. the collective reality will hold you int the cohesion of yoru past, and what they know of you, but if you are me you have already surpassed the weakness of the position of awareness of average men stuck in the world holding each other down. don Juan didnt say it maybe rudely but people are weak and stuck and powerless as he saw them to be as well. he didn;t write his awareness for the powerful world of seers and ascended masters he wrote it for the weak and the unaware. he can see, as I can see, the position of awareness of the people within the world that he is in.

humble... to who.... it depends on what they know, what they can do, and how much they are aware of. humble to infinity, to God, how could i not when i see God. WHen I have merged with the omnipresence of reality the source of all things, and become it myself.

[serloco]

don Juan left Carlos feeling like a worthless piece of drivel many many times. and what do they do but defend themselves and try to protect their damaged egos. try to grasp ahold of their precious position of reality. WAAAAAH you think you are better then me and so that means youre not and you are wrong because you were too harsh and it hurt me and so there!!! I am right now see!!!

[Daraawiish]

srloco, you are wrong Don Juan wouldnt ever harm anyone who given himself at mercy, on contrary don juan is one of the most wholehearted people I knew, Carlos was in reality his own "misfortune maker" for he tried at all costs to remain in his world and enter but also did not knew, which made him very clever and gave us readers quite amount of funny moments

[lightsoul]

Whisperings of the DragonShadows in the Twilight: Conversations with a ShamanNarrator Review
As a non-fiction narrator, it’s a pleasant surprise when I can
find a compelling knock-your-socks-off book to narrate. I have to get
pretty intimate with the books I voice and spend a great deal of time
with the subject by the time I’ve finished producing the book.

“Shadows in the Twilight: Conversations With a Shaman” blew me
away. I kept getting goose bumps while recording. Now I can’t stop
thinking about it. This conversation between Bill Ham and the nagual
Lujan Matus weaves philosophy, physics, religion, self-help, and magic
into a coherent template for our lives, our troubled world, and our
purpose.

I’m curious about who else will be moved by this work.

[serloco]

Daraawiish wroterloco, you are wrong Don Juan wouldnt ever harm anyone who given himself at mercy, on contrary don juan is one of the most wholehearted people I knew, Carlos was in reality his own "misfortune maker" for he tried at all costs to remain in his world and enter but also did not knew, which made him very clever and gave us readers quite amount of funny moments
Who said don Juan hurt people or wanted too, because i didn`t. And so what exactly am I wrong about. He sure did call it as he saw it and didn`t cater to people`s self-importance. I remember him telling Carlos the truth of how he felt about him. That it was a challenge to put up with his constant bullshit all the time, his self-importance and many other things he constantly had to deal with. He pretty much said that he didn`t even really like Carlos and was not doing it for Carlos but for himself. I do not follow don Juan`s feelings or awareness regarding many things personally. I have surpassed many of his teachings, and see that some of teachings come from one position of awareness whereas some of his better teachings come from another position entirely contrary to some of his other teachings. I follow the most powerful and free teachings only, as well as the ones from the heart. I know that don Juan was a grreat and wise man and am greatful for his teachings which have led me beyond who i was and helped make me who I am today.

[lightsoul]

serloco wrote:Who said he hurt people or wanted too, because he didn`t. And so what exactly am I wrong about.
He sure did call it as he saw it and didn`t cater to people`s self-importance.
I remember him telling me the truth of how he felt about me.
That it was a challenge to put up with my constant bullshit all the time, my self-importance and many other things he constantly had to deal with.
He pretty much said that he didn`t even really like me.

[Daraawiish]

Making excuses and insults, and justifiing them by telling that someone else does this too, is not just cowardly, but also arogant and childish.

[Daraawiish]

No Ego, please.

[serloco]

trinsic wrote:All that really matters is the reason why you are talking about it. You are free to do as you like, and people are free to respond to you the way they like.
That quote came from my heart, call it what you like it does not change the intent in which it was given.
I think I remembered Don Juan was humble about his knowledge and didnt try to use his knowledge to make others appear less than him. He called people out on their own Self-Importance, but his motives were to bring people to a higher level of awareness.

My impression of your statements around the weaknesses of others appear to harm rather than help, I can see why someone would get the idea that you are trying to weaken people. Knowledge is worthless without ruthlessness (not harshness), cunning (not cruelty), patience (not negligence), and sweetness (not foolishness).
My intent is to point out where I think you could use some work, not that everything you say is worthless you are very intelligent and aware, but you use power without cultivating humbleness and IMHO that just makes things worse. Im sure I have my share of weaknesses so your free to point them out and I hope to learn from them .
 
yeah i see you, you are trying to be what you think is right and good, and also to look like that in the eyes of others. its good to be waht you think is right, and to recognize our self-importance so to be the way around it. i expose the essence of self-importance for what it is when i confront it in another, I am aware that it may hurt them to see this truth, their ego will surely be damaged. but their ego is not true. they thought they were great and good in telling others about the new poison that is in their food, but really they were hurting them and using dark magic to hook the gaze of their loved ones to this form, the ones who trust him. not very pretty, and i call it directly as I see it and give the knowledge and awareness as to what is happening when they do this and how not to do this. And you tell me i am here to weaken. I am ruthless yes, but I damaged was an illusion and a lie and a damaging awareness and knowledge. I empowered the reader to no longer curse the forms of the world to align into the assemblage position of reality, and exposed the awareness of how curses and damaging knowledges are created. Who would not want this knowledge and power! ANd you say I weaken when I only exposed an already existing weakness.  removed the truth and the power to protect his false self image of himself and his to hide his own actions. he will probably take my awareness and write it in one of his great books of his and claim it as his own.

personal history here, well it certainly cant hurt me can it, as if most people even have the power to hold me in some image they have of me, and if they see me for what i am and listen to my experiences and tales of power, my kniowledge and my awareness that i share that you say is personal history then their awareness of which is true will only place me in the position of my power. That is my life and i am not afreain to share it. If you are weak and if you are fearrful of the power of others to hold you then you shuld not share your stories with others, in that position of awareness. the collective reality will hold you int the cohesion of yoru past, and what they know of you, but if you are me you have already surpassed the weakness of the position of awareness of average men stuck in the world holding each other down. don Juan didnt say it maybe rudely but people are weak and stuck and powerless as he saw them to be as well. he didn;t write his awareness for the powerful world of seers and ascended masters he wrote it for the weak and the unaware. he can see, as I can see, the position of awareness of the people within the world that he is in.

humble... to who.... it depends on what they know, what they can do, and how much they are aware of. humble to infinity, to God, how could i not when i see God. WHen I have merged with the omnipresence of reality the source of all things, and become it myself.

[serloco]

don Juan left Carlos feeling like a worthless piece of drivel many many times. and what do they do but defend themselves and try to protect their damaged egos. try to grasp ahold of their precious position of reality. WAAAAAH you think you are better then me and so that means youre not and you are wrong because you were too harsh and it hurt me and so there!!! I am right now see!!!

[Daraawiish]

srloco, you are wrong Don Juan wouldnt ever harm anyone who given himself at mercy, on contrary don juan is one of the most wholehearted people I knew, Carlos was in reality his own "misfortune maker" for he tried at all costs to remain in his world and enter but also did not knew, which made him very clever and gave us readers quite amount of funny moments

[lightsoul]

Whisperings of the DragonShadows in the Twilight: Conversations with a ShamanNarrator Review
As a non-fiction narrator, it’s a pleasant surprise when I can
find a compelling knock-your-socks-off book to narrate. I have to get
pretty intimate with the books I voice and spend a great deal of time
with the subject by the time I’ve finished producing the book.

“Shadows in the Twilight: Conversations With a Shaman” blew me
away. I kept getting goose bumps while recording. Now I can’t stop
thinking about it. This conversation between Bill Ham and the nagual
Lujan Matus weaves philosophy, physics, religion, self-help, and magic
into a coherent template for our lives, our troubled world, and our
purpose.

I’m curious about who else will be moved by this work.

[serloco]

Daraawiish wroterloco, you are wrong Don Juan wouldnt ever harm anyone who given himself at mercy, on contrary don juan is one of the most wholehearted people I knew, Carlos was in reality his own "misfortune maker" for he tried at all costs to remain in his world and enter but also did not knew, which made him very clever and gave us readers quite amount of funny moments
Who said don Juan hurt people or wanted too, because i didn`t. And so what exactly am I wrong about. He sure did call it as he saw it and didn`t cater to people`s self-importance. I remember him telling Carlos the truth of how he felt about him. That it was a challenge to put up with his constant bullshit all the time, his self-importance and many other things he constantly had to deal with. He pretty much said that he didn`t even really like Carlos and was not doing it for Carlos but for himself. I do not follow don Juan`s feelings or awareness regarding many things personally. I have surpassed many of his teachings, and see that some of teachings come from one position of awareness whereas some of his better teachings come from another position entirely contrary to some of his other teachings. I follow the most powerful and free teachings only, as well as the ones from the heart. I know that don Juan was a grreat and wise man and am greatful for his teachings which have led me beyond who i was and helped make me who I am today.

[lightsoul]

serloco wrote:Who said he hurt people or wanted too, because he didn`t. And so what exactly am I wrong about.
He sure did call it as he saw it and didn`t cater to people`s self-importance.
I remember him telling me the truth of how he felt about me.
That it was a challenge to put up with my constant bullshit all the time, my self-importance and many other things he constantly had to deal with.
He pretty much said that he didn`t even really like me.

[Daraawiish]

Making excuses and insults, and justifiing them by telling that someone else does this too, is not just cowardly, but also arogant and childish.

[serloco]

Do you know what I call a ****! A ****. Do you know what I call a chump like lujan, a chump. Now you go ahead and soft peddle the truth and cater to their ego`s all you want, I call it as I see it. It`s called honesty. Now go cry me a river about it. You know what is cowardly, to not speak your mind and be honest, afraid of what you think and see, afraid to speak the truth.

[serloco]

lightsoul wrote:

[serloco]

You know what I see dar, I see you making stupid statements with no awareness all over the forum, making mistakes, giving away your power, and forming retared awareness. Everytime we debate it ends up with you saying I was right, and you accepting and taking MY energy and awareness into you, my power and my help for you. Now you act like a **** yet again, crying and complaining and looking for anything you can to use against me. Just like I said WAAAAAHH he insulted me!!!! Now lets attack him because my poor poor little ego is hurt.

[serloco]

you know what i SEE. I see lujan pretending to be a great and wise mster sorcerer, who claims to not only understand don Juan's teachings, but proclaims himself that he explains them better then don Juan humself did. then I confront him to find out that he doesn't even understand what the assemblage position is, and how it aligns your awareness and knowledge into the form of reality that you experiencce and align to. They have a word for that, an insulting one sure, but it states the truth of the person, a fraud. he goes around aligning not only to his own AP but to all the people he knows , passing them curses to form into their food and into their bodies. he is a black magician who is not aware of sorcery but fails back on negative science to defend himself saying to me that science has discovered that the endocrine system is in fact damaged by the foods that he is pointing out to people. there is another word for that action, one that is not pleasent, an insult, but again is true. It is called a slave, and a ****. he is a slave to the nagative forms of knowledge that science shoves down his throat. i made a post in his forum, a post of real power, when i changes my own bodily knowledge, and transfered my body into freedom , to form to MY will, so i can live with no heart at all, and no system shoved down my throat to kill me. and do you know what he did, he attacked me for it. chump ass loser. not only that but he erases the valuable knowledge of freedom that I gave his forum, real knowledge of power. he erased it so he could hide is unawareness and protect his own image. i point that out to you guys here, and you attack me for it. ha! next time i see you losers attacking yourself and hurting yourself, and losing all your power to a tyrant out to kill you and lie to you, i will laugh at you, and see your death in your words and awareness, your intent and your will. and i will not help you. you say I am weakening you by helping you see truth and power and freedom that you do not have within you, that i tried to place within you, removing the real weakness within you, and showing it to you directly so you can see for yourself. but you would rather be blind, like lujan, so that you do not know that you are weak and what power, and freedom really is. so go ahead and think you are right, and think you know best, and i will laugh at your real self-important, the negative kind, that keeps you in the dark to protect you from the light of truth and awareness. now if you do not like that you can cry and whine about it, and attack me for it, but i will ignore you and practice real power that you dont have.