Schizophrenia

[watergaze]

thnx for listing the vitamins, minerals and supplements. nice to have it all in one post like that.

[Pixie Dust]

watergaze wrote:


The fact that this is even a consideration should really start to reveal the illusion of mental illness.  I bet the individuals who speed through a kundalini experience are particularly f*cked.  Imagine trying to speed through a spiritual awakening and successfully breaking your own mind.  Bet that hurts a lot.  

The people who are institutionalized are at a significant disadvantage because their awakening is re-directed into a sickness.  What should be a moment of birthing oneself, suddenly turns into a race for survival.  What if it's true that it is a spiritual awakening?  Imagine the sheer number of people awakening into a society that values materialism and is disconnected from one another.  How empty that would leave those souls who manage to make it, intact, through their awakening.  How disorienting that would feel for those individuals who have their eyes opened to a larger stage, only to have that mislabeled as a sickness. 

What if--you know?  That would fall into the category of crimes against humanity.

[serloco]

watergaze wrote:
thnx for listing the vitamins, minerals and supplements. nice to have it all in one post like that.

[Pixie Dust]

serloco wrote:
Pixie Dust wrote:
serloco wrote:They say the number one cause forrecovery from schizoprenia is having a positive psychosocial interaction circle. People who support yoru recovery and support you. 

Imagine that... the cure for schizophrenia is a loving and kind support group.  Talk about overcomplicating a simple thing.  

Yes but the media paints a pretty awful picture of schizophrenics. I can't tell hardly anyone I have the illness or I get judged and treated poorly. 

Yep.  The stigma of mental disorders is severe.  Even psychologists hold a stigma toward other psychologists who have been diagnosed with a mental disorder.  Psychologists often hide their own mental disorder from one another because it can impact publication in journals and peer support.  It's sad that even educated and informed professionals in the field itself are vulnerable to this effect.

[serloco]

Panax Ginseng - Panax ginseng is considered good for improving memory, thinking and concentration. In a 2008 study, Canadian researchers found that Panax ginseng helped reduce the some of the negative symptoms of schizophrenia, including flat affect (lack of emotional expression) in the patients. It is believed to hit the same brain receptors as antipsychotic drugs.

Gingko Biloba - Ginkgo biloba is being studied by the scientific communities as an adjunctive treatment for schizophrenia as it may help enhance the effectiveness of antipsychotics. It is also believed to protect against neural damage caused by antipsychotics. It is also effective against mood swings and delusions. 

Ashwaghanda - Ashwagandha is another calming herb useful for depression, anxiety, and other psychiatric disorders due to its anxiolytic and antidepressant effect.

Bacopa - Brahmi, also called bacopa, is popularly used in Ayurvedic medicine to enhance cognitive ability. Animal studies indicate that it can also help improve schizophrenia. Although the exact mechanism as to how it works is not known, it is believed to help stabilize certain chemicals in the brain. It also exhibits neuroprotective properties. In recent studies Bacopa has been shown to be as effective as anti-psychotics in relieving the symptoms of the illness.



http://www.top10homeremedies.com/home-r ... renia.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3545244/

[watergaze]

I hear you Pixie. 
Pretty scary if you ask me... terrifying... 

Somehow... we are missing a generation of elders who would aid the people who need it.

[Djete]

And why are we here?

[Pixie Dust]

Good sh*t Serloco. 

Watergaze, I think when a society shifts their priorities away from something then extinction occurs.  If we're missing a large portion of a generation of elders who were healers, the skill is no longer needed or considered unnecessary.  We are flooded with dysfunctional populations so obviously, the need is higher.  Healers, of the shaman variety, don't support the agenda.  They're not going to prescribe medication from for-profit companies.  Shamans support natural healing: naturopathy.  There's not a profitable way to support that agenda.  Naturopaths aren't covered by most insurance plans.  

The government has its own agenda and is ruthless in the pursuit of winning that competition.  Don't even get me started on the impact prescription opioids play in healthcare.  The entire thing is a mess.

[Djete]

Have you heard of neuralink?

[Pixie Dust]

I'll be direct, Djete.  I have no interest in exchanging ideas with you.  I hope you find someone who will chat with you.

[serloco]

Neurolink is strange but inevitable. Linking the mind to computers can have its benefits for sure. Personally I think that technology is too important in this day and age.

[Djete]

>From newmedicineonline.com
“When utilizing modalities (alternative medicine practices) such as EFT (I have practiced EFT, TFT, Matrix Energetics, Sedona Method and similar biological psychotherapies) we are, in essence “by-passing” those complexities as well as various levels of consciousness with an “artificial” clearing or fix.
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A fix is analogous to your body naturally detoxifying itself vs. a forced flush, meditating naturally vs. via an artificial binaural CD, bodysculpting naturally with weights vs. electric muscle stim.”

[Djete]

https://waitbutwhy.com/2017/04/neuralink.html#part5

Just scrolling through pictures is enough

[serloco]

So I went thru it a lil and its an interesting idea. But neuroplasticity dictates that the brain is re-writable. We can shape our brains to desired effects.. I believe that with the human potential we can merely intend our brains to do all the enhancements that computer interfaces are capable of. The mind is a remarkable instrument. Personally I have seen many different versions of my own mind and what it is capable of. Amazing things. 

I think reliance on computers has gone too far, and evolving this idea would mean less natural development on the human brain itself. I think natural evolution is the way to go here. He says how can you communicate with beings on top of, lets say a mountain? His answer is communication devices within the brain. I say the advancement of natural telepathy. 

As I see it now, the advantage for someone biotechnologically engineered vs someone naturally evolved would go to the naturally evolved individual. What is better, being part machine, or being naturally enhanced without technological dependence?

[Pixie Dust]

Given that humans use only 2% of their brain power, it's seems worthwhile to explore the other 98% prior to tinkering with technological advancements. Those can always be supplemental once human potential is explored to a greater degree.

My two cents.

[serloco]

Pixie Dust wrote:
 

Given that humans use only 2% of their brain power, it's seems worthwhile to explore the other 98% prior to tinkering with technological advancements.  Those can always be supplemental once human potential is explored to a greater degree.

My two cents.

Yes, exactly, and not only that but the % of the brain we use will be altered in the future. You see brain pathways change over time. Thinking itself changes, and so does the speed. The idea that we use only part of our brain is correct for right now but as we use more of it I suspect that the brain matter itself will be enhanced and developed. So even a hypothesis as to what using our full capacity would mean to us would be inaccurate since by then our brains will be dramatically altered.

[Pixie Dust]

Heh.  I'm uncertain we could even make a decent hypothesis of what using 50% of our potential would look like.  Forget trying to predict 100%.  Heck, I'm even excited about what 10% looks like.

We are the second generation apes.  We're bloody idiots compared to what we could be.

[serloco]

Lucy is a great movie about the human brain at its full capacity. That movie seems to know things, secret things. I suggest watching it.

[Pixie Dust]

I love Lucy.  Great show and movie   Lucy is the keeper of secrets, certainly.

[serloco]

[serloco]

[serloco]

What is this world coming to? People take for granted that our health care professionals have our best interest at heart. But that isnt the case. Since when does the best course of treatment equate to how much money we can make from it!? I am appalled. If I had known when I first got sick that vitamins would of healed me then I would saved myself 7 years of hell. Now others are going thru what I went thru and they arent being told how to heal. 

Cancer was absolutely cured in 2007 by a cheap drug called dca. Its cheap, effective and gentle and cure over 90% of cancer patients. You might have seen it on the news.... once, for about 5 mins. Now its dusty and sitting on the back burner.

[serloco]

So its been about 2 weeks off of my meds and taking vitamins and fish oil. I havent started my new herbs yet as they are in the mail. So far I feel great, and have had less symptoms then usual. Hallucination attempts have failed and my mind has this kind of shield on it against some of the negative symptoms. I feel happier too. Truth be told I am almost 100% healthy. I still dont know if I have schizophrenia or not. I mean I dont have the standard symptoms that they have. I just have spirits that seem to bother me often. My mind is pretty healthy actually. I am sure the new brain treatment is going well. My herbal studies are going great, as I am learning chemistry of the plants and am retaining very well.

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