How do I access the Nagual?

[Nagual LoneWolf]

There is never a sure and positive answer. There is intent and that is all. Intent is the forming of energy, thought,and power by living beings whether they be
a tree, a tiger, a man. This intent usually is small but if it is present then that is enough for a answer...one must trust something in this type of study. If
you say you saw me in a dream then you "saw" my dreaming body OR a self created form of me. If it was me and you felt that or that was your intent,
then it was either one of the two things: me or you created me in your "dream". To dream with you and have memory of the event there is two ways for
that to happen: I Lie next to you and hold your hand or touch your body , or meet with you with my double in the third attention. With intent we as can dream
together, but "remembering" is another thing entirely. Doubles are the dreaming enitities of our other side or one's "nagual". Each
person has two sides: Awake side and sleep side. The sleep side is mostly aware of the awake side but not vice versa. Don Juan teaches you how to access your
other side. Nagual. The one that is present and loose in the world. This enitity is like god. It is a force that watches you when you think your alone. It
never uses words but still communcates with you. It is the wildness of the night that changes in you. I, while growing up realized the nagual's presence
all the time. It made me crazy at times. How do you tell people that there is a invisible force that is always with you??? What should you do next? Stalk that
which stalks you.

[Guest]

Wolf in my oppinion that part with reaching your own dreaming body is a requirement at least to find out to which type of Master in castaneda's
clasification you belong to. But yes reaching out to your totem animal is also helpfull yours is a wolf mine is a cat but as type of master we are alike,
belonging to the master of wilt part of nagual beings. That i consider as step two, step three reach out to your totem plant there is one for each of us but
you must resonate deeply with them in order to connect to other species nagual beings. Step four will be to connect to the inorganic leathat things realm that
might kill you or accept you that is what i observed myself if they accept you you might walk around dreamworld with your eb intact protected by the inorganic
totem you have plant or animal here is a difference one might accept you and protect you.

[Nagual LoneWolf]

There is never a sure and positive answer. There is intent and that is all. Intent is the forming of energy, thought,and power by living beings whether they be
a tree, a tiger, a man. This intent usually is small but if it is present then that is enough for a answer...one must trust something in this type of study. If
you say you saw me in a dream then you "saw" my dreaming body OR a self created form of me. If it was me and you felt that or that was your intent,
then it was either one of the two things: me or you created me in your "dream". To dream with you and have memory of the event there is two ways for
that to happen: I Lie next to you and hold your hand or touch your body , or meet with you with my double in the third attention. With intent we as can dream
together, but "remembering" is another thing entirely. Doubles are the dreaming enitities of our other side or one's "nagual". Each
person has two sides: Awake side and sleep side. The sleep side is mostly aware of the awake side but not vice versa. Don Juan teaches you how to access your
other side. Now another term I use for the nagual is the outside one. The one that is present and loose in the world. This enitity is like god. It is a force
that watches you when you think your alone. It never uses words but still communcates with you. It is the wildness of the night that changes in you. I, while
growing up realized the nagual's presence all the time. It made me crazy at times. How do you tell people that there is a invisible force that is always
with you??? What should you do next? Stalk that which stalks you.

[docta lee]

Nice Post Wolf


Thanks

[docta lee]

Hi guys,




I feel mine is a Raven.




How would i know or check on this?




thanks

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Jump off a tall building and see if you can fly???

[Mornings Son]

Find out in dreaming. Meet the Raven and ask him.

[docta lee]

The next time i see one i will ask.




No jumping Wolf but i will try one day in dreaming though.

[heluka]

you can have multiple animals. the connector is the color of your heart your vision. That is your power animal.

[ARNWAY]

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[Nagual LoneWolf]

Stalk what stalks you. How many know what this means?What is your answer?

[bluedreamer]

Notice--I was remembering a presence that visits from time to time or maybe that comes in close from time to time, I usually sense it just to my right , near my cheek or "in" and around my head. It is a very intimate feeling to me. I have had it near my cheek when listening to live music and in and around my head a few times when posting here. I have noticed when communicating with a most interesting person or when doing things that are very enjoyable or interesting for me. Maybe that's just stalking myself though, it could be that it is drawn in closer when that open feeling abounds or it could be I'm more apt to notice it then. I would like to learn more about stalking and stalking what stalks me.

[ARNWAY]

Bluedreamer, I am just guessing but it may be your emissary or some F.E. either or it is inorganic in nature and the best thing to do is to have your guards up
but also let your natural connection take place with the elements that make you a warrior to open up your perception to the second attention only with your
deep personal defensive guards in place that comes from your heart and not by greed of power.


Once you recognize the distinction of your senses it becomes easier, I personally go in stages with my perception and very soon I will be posting in the second
attention as you will clearly see more often then other times because this happens with my dreaming ability all the time.


I will dream with such intensity twenty times a night that I have to shut down my dreaming activity so I can have my peace and renewal of my well being to
venture onto the next level.




Perception is a double edged sword one side you have to protect your precious awareness with all your might and will and on the other hand you have to open
your perception up to receive the warriors lessons with experience without damaging your energy by sharing it with predatory beings seeking your energy and
I'm not talking about people on the Internet, I am talking about energy forces in your dreams and in nature.

[bluedreamer]

Arnway, I'm not familiar with emissary, can you speak more on that? Don't know much about foreign energy or inorganic beings either--don't think it
is a flyers but that isn't the only F.E. I guess. I don't notice any energy drain when this has happened, more like a feeling of energy gain when I
have felt it while listening to music for instance, but I can't say for sure . I don't know if I know how to bring about that open state while at the
same time have my deep personal gaurds from the heart up and yeah gotta watch that greed for power, that **** can go to my head. It may be that my heart is
gaurding me I'm not sure how to tell. Any methods for bringing that protection in or way of knowing when the heart is protecting? I have wondered a couple
of times when posting here if it could be me sensing someone from the group who is on at the same time or is thinking of me.






Thanks Arnway for looking out for me.

[ARNWAY]

Bluedreamer the emissary was talked about allot in the book "The Art Of Dreaming" and what was weird for me is that it was around the year 1980 that
I really came close to my emissary, as it was mentioned after I experienced it some 15 years in the C.C. books that it was really talked about so I know first
hand before I read about it that it was for real.


The emissary is an Inorganic awareness that is by nature attached to our being whether we like it or not and is meant to guide us in a way into the second
attention or in dreaming, it may be perceived as a state of awareness that you have when you have no unanswered questions in your mind because this force is
meant to help you in states of heightened awareness as a voice in your head that will answer any question that may pop up in your head and give you
"clarity" of what you are perceiving.




I will give you more of a explanation of the interplay of the forces that will bombarded you very soon since I have no more time to type an explanation.




For right now use your deep instincts as the direction and acceptance of what you should and or handle when it comes to experiencing any dream or encounter but
remember one thing as a defence no mater how bad it is is that you under no circumstance fear whatever comes your way even if it is bad the trick is that you
learn not to fear it even if you do fear it.




I'll talk to you soon since I have immediate obligations to attend too.

[bluedreamer]

Thanks arnway. I only have one cc book--the eagles gift--and only 2 in the library here. However I'll be going to a big bookstore soon and will look for
The Art of Dreaming. I think I know what you mean about not fearing even when you are afraid. A friend once put me to the test. We were in the garage of a
communal house I was living in at the time painting, it was night and he left to go get something. Because the crack head neighbor had been causing trouble I
locked the garage door. After a while someone banged forcefully into the door so much that the door bulged in, yeah I was afraid but determined to fight if
necessary. I picked up a long copper pipe and yelled "Hey!" Feeling more like fight than flight by then. I went to the door and yelled
"who's there" didn't get an answer for a minute then I heard my friend say "it's me". I opened that door and tore verbally into
him. He said when he heard me pick up the pipe and yell he knew I might hurt him. I was so mad but later I was glad for the test cause I knew I was capable of
being in the spirit of protecting myself. That friend was often trying to test people in different ways and people didn't always appreciate it.




Looking forward to hearing what you have to say soon

[dreamgirl]

Nagual Lonewolf wrote:


"Stalk what stalks you. How many know what this means?What is your answer? "




Here is a little story of an event that happened to me just a few weeks ago. It is a strange tale, and I have been wanting to post it to the "Warriors
Album" thread, but I held off, not being sure of it being album worthy. However, it stayed in my head, I knew I wanted to post it, I even got so far as
to type it up, only to delete it. Now here is my chance, as I think it illustrates how to stalk what stalks you.




I noticed that my dishwasher was leaking on the kitchen floor, so I told my husband about it and when he got home from work, he tried to fix it. He pulled it
out of the cabinets and found that a mouse had chewed a hole in the hose, as it had set up housekeeping behind the dishwasher. He pulled the dishwasher out
and put it in the dining room, he would put a new hose on it the next day. I imagine that mouse found its home missing, and probably faced the wrath of my
cats during the night. When I awoke, I saw my dog messing around with my tennis shoe, and I knew something had been on it, or in it. As I got out of bed and
walked toward my shoe, I noticed my cat crouching in front of a dresser, it could not get under it, but I knew the mouse was there. I must say, mice scare me,
bugs, snakes, spiders don't scare me, but for some reason, mice do, and I typically jump up on the closest thing around. I had to get to work, no one was
home, and I did not want to deal with the mouse. I decided to shower in my children's bathroom, in avoidance of the mouse. After my shower, I head very
cautiously into my bathroom, and of course the mouse had escaped to this room now, and was hiding behind a small chest, and my cat was sitting in front of it.
I watch as the mouse sneaks past the cat, and very slowly runs across my room and heads under my bed, at this point I think of how a lot of men would actually
stomp on the mouse with their foot, yikes, not me! Before I leave for work, I call all my dogs (3) and cats (2) into my room, and sick them on the mouse, I
leave them with the duty to kill this mouse.




After work, I go and pick up my son from a summer class he has been taking and we head back to the house, it has only been about 5 hours since I left. I tell
him all about my morning with the mouse, and he thinks it is pretty funny. When we get home, I go to the kitchen and put my stuff away, but he headed straight
to my bedroom, and I hear him calling me to come quick! As I run back to my bedroom, I see all the dogs napping peacefully on the sofa, not a care in the
world. In my room, my son stares down at the ground, and i fully expected to see a dead mouse or at least parts of a dead mouse, but noooooo, what my son is
showing me is two little teeny tiny newborn mice, with their umbilical cords still attached, lying on the ground, one was dead, the other was crying out.
This mouse situation is getting more complicated by the minute, now I am thinking "what do I do?", We look around for more mice, and I turn over this
recliner that is next to my bed, and under it are more mice, 3, all alive, and now that the recliner is upside down, we see more that are in the underside of
the chair, and we look closer and the mother mouse is in there as well, hiding from us. My mind is running with possibilities of how to handle this situation,
complicating the matter is the fact that being Buddhist, I don't kill bugs or spiders when they enter my house, I catch them and release them outside, and
now I have these little innocent baby mice to deal with, and of course the mother mouse, that I was perfectly willing to let my animals kill that very morning.
HMMMMM, well I decide that I will place all the mice in a shoebox, all nicely lined with toilet tissue, and take the mother mouse and her brood to the park
down the street and if they make it.... well, it is now up to nature to decide, not me. Now I have to remove the mice from under the chair, but they are stuck
to it somehow, and this is where my story gets involved in the stalking question. I am really having to pull myself together, and reach down deep within
myself to get this whole situation handled, I would like nothing more than to have my husband home so he could deal with it, or I would like my son, who is
only 15, to say, move over mom, let me do it. But I am the grown up, the one in charge, and it is at this point that my perception starts to shift. What I
mean by this is I experience myself from outside myself, and from that viewpoint it is quite a different scene, and the feeling that I have is calm, quick,
decisive, and brave, and from this viewpoint I immediately know what to do and how to do it, it was wordless, but a book full of instructions could not have
been more clear. I shift back to being in the scene, I gather the mice, it is yucky, but I have on surgical gloves and am using plastic spoons to pick these
little guys from there impossibly hard to get to place - I get them and they are actually conjoined, siamese twin mice, freaky, the next set is conjoined also,
but not fully formed. The horrible thing is, the fully developed conjoined mice, one is dead, one is alive. Do I put them in the box? SHIFT, back into my
other outside awareness, I know what to do, I come back, and do it, which was to flush it down the toilet, because it would be cruel to let it suffer, it's
mother would let it die, so I chose to end its suffering now. Now, all I have to do is catch the mouse, and my son and I have a net and the box with all her
babies is ready to go, but fate would deal a different hand, and she, panicked, escapes, and she is gone. I look at the box, and wonder how you would feed,
nurse, ect. these poor babies, and SHIFT, I am outside the situation again, and from this position it is clear what I have to do, I have to end the suffering
of these newborn mice-simple. I shift back to my regular viewpoint, now I just have to buck up the nerve to do it, and it takes all I got to flush those poor
innocent creatures, but I keep realizing the paradox of wanting to kill the adult mouse, and save the babies, why the difference? I struggle with this message
as I flush the mice. I calmly go to the kitchen and get a mouse trap and place it in my husbands disaster of a closet, the last place I could locate the
mother mouse.




So, when I had to, I shifted to an outside awareness, very much like that strange vantage point we assume when we are dreaming, when we switch back and forth
between being in the dream scene and watching it. The first time it happened, it was a surprise, but I called it back each time I needed help during the mouse
situation, in this way, shifting was me really realigning my AP to that outside awareness. Isn't stalking just the movement of the AP? So, I am thinking
that this was stalking that which stalked me. Am I anywhere close? This btw is the absolute longest post I have ever made!




Dreamgirl




P.S. That evening my husband ends up catching the mother mouse in a net, we walk her to the park, but before we get there, she jumps out of the net and
scurries off into some heavy underbrush, she lives to see another sunrise, or at least I think. I am reminded of that story that Carlos Castaneda tells about
the cats, one escaped before being put to sleep.

[ARNWAY]

Interesting story Dreamgirl, this shows when your instincts take over your petty fear of mice or any other critter that is too close to home.




I am similar with you regarding not killing animals and letting them go but I am more cruel than you and I learned this from the TV show"Animal
Planet", while I was in the second attention I saw a show on the Animal Planet that put everything in perspective with what you mentioned as your turmoil
with what to do with animals that are in your house and while I was in the second attention it made so much seance on how to act within nature that it gave or
felt I was revealed the natures universal "LAW" on how to deal with what you are talking about and was able to deal with the natures critters with
great clarity.




I learned on how to deal with animals, bugs and any other thing that you deal with by learning from nature itself and because of this I was at peace and or had
a understanding of the balance that comes with what you mentioned and this was learning the action of other animals or bugs in the natural environment that
deal with what you encountered. The way Nature deals with critters or bugs is that if any critter or bug in the animal kingdom goes in there nest or personal
space of living that they would be killed because they crossed the line by trespassing someones space and this is a universal law with any animal.




If you go into a bears den then they will get rid of you and if you go onto a ant hill they will kill you and if you violate any body's nest they will
attack, so there for I applied the same natural law when it comes to my personal space like my house by violating my personal living space I will get rid of
them and on the same hand when I'm in the wilderness I will not kill a bug because they have just as much a right to live as me but if they invade my space
like a mosquito trying to bite me then they are dead other than that I will not interfere with nature at all and by realizing this I found peace with nature
and as a result found natural continuity and peace with nature.




Just yesterday I was pissed off by being in a bad mood because of my friend and I saw this black ant on the pavement and I stepped on it and killed it only to
realize that I should have not done so and felt so bad that I mentioned out loud with my voice that I was sorry that I did that because I realized that I am no
more important than that ant and would not want to be stomped on and killed myself for no reason.




The bottom line and I feel that this is "natural law" is that anytime that any intrusion in your living space whether its animals, bugs or F.E.
energy, people, government or anything is an invasion of your space, you should be prepared to destroy it and deal with it before it effects you to any such
degree.




Its natural law.

[ARNWAY]

Dreamgirl or Bluedreamer please forgive me if I get you to mixed up when responding to each of you since your user names are similar but I will not make the
mistake ever--even though I feel I have not yet.




Its nice to talk to women other than my wife and I want to mention that I have the privilege to talk with my wife about things that we talk about here on this
site without feeling that I have to hide the fact that I talk about such topics of awareness, I want my wife to post on this site since she is a warrior but
does not feel a need to post and talk about things like I do, like she said that I talk to much and that I'm always on the computer blabbing my mouth and
why I feel a need to do so.




My wife is a warrior and she kicks my ass, but I would not want it any other way.




I love my wife so much and feel fortunate to have her because we have so much trust and communication between us to the point I would collapse without her love
and beautiful body and spirit and total love.




But I have to mention that it is nice to talk to women as far as a good change because of the different perspective because I get tired of talking to Wolf all
the time -LOL- when compared to talking to a women about issues that effect our perception because its a good balance because you can not have one without the
other.




At one point there were hardly no women on this site and I mentioned to my wife that being on this website was like being on a "COCK FARM" since
every guy was spreading there testosterone at each other. LoL

[ARNWAY]

Bluedreamer I am pleased to share any of my knowledge to you or anybody because I feel our time is limited and by unexplained reasons and feel a need to expose
my knowledge for anybody because in the past I felt I should hold my knowledge more secretive and now this has changed also members here or anywhere can take
my knowledge and observe it or discard it with there discretion.




One thing is for certain is that when either dreaming or in normal awareness or in any circumstance you will encounter "FOREIGN ENERGY" and most of
the time it is felt as a feeling or bad or good VIBE example (have you ever gone to a place and got a bad VIBE or bad feeling about someone or someplace? I
have.




When you dream you can perceive this negative energy as it is, and in normal awareness you just usually feel the bad energy as a feeling to your senses but
most of the time it is not clear what you are feeling but deep down with your instincts like when the back of your hair stands up you know that something is of
concern but you don't know for certain because its just a feeling.




Fortunately I have been dreaming now for almost thirty years now and have learned to reach my energy body when awake or sleeping and learned that the forces
that you encounter in dreaming or in normal waking time is no different at all but just a different manifestation when perceiving them and most people shy away
from dealing with them because they think that they are "EVIL" and do not anything to do with them and I feel the same way but the thing that I want
to point out to everybody is that we are all being "BUTT-FUCKED" by them anyhow so we should pay attention to them as to not be influenced by them if
this is your choice because all you have to do is use your instincts and you will know that there is some underlying activity going on that is not perceivable
and I feel everybody knows what the *** I'm talking about to some degree to another.




The secret is simple and this is where we were deceived into thinking that we should not perceive this by F.E. forces as to not see this deception.




Hello HAPPY CAMPERS just voice out with your intent and you will dismantle this deception that plaques us by refusing this engagement from the F.E. , F.I. or
any other thing that has a piece of your ass and state that they do not have permission to deceive you.




Watch what happens because your world will change and that's only because you are dependent on their fixation and most people get scared because they do
not have the courage to be free and give in to the dependence of being under assault.

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Stalking is many things and has many designs that are used for teaching, learning, and seeing. I tell you that yes there are many beings in the world you
cannot see. But you can feel them. Bluedreamer felt one and gains energy from it. Dreamgirl sees her shifts in dealing with the perceptions of her crisis with
the mouse. The mouse interrupted her everyday world and she was taught a magnificent lesson by the spirit.


Yet still I tell you all..... your being stalked and there are many kinds of stalkers out there in the worlds.

[dreamgirl]

Hey Everybody:




Arnway, thank you for the kind words in having a diversity of people talking with you here, and I won't care if you get me mixed up with Bluedreamer, she
and I have come to the conclusion that we are of the same type anyway, so I won't hold it against you.




As I read back through these posts, I realized I was just looking for an opportunity to tell my tale of the mouse. I do not think it fits here any longer,
because after Arnway's and Lonewolfs posts, I realize this question of stalking what stalks you is more about foreign energy. I have always been
sensitive to FE, and I quit my last job as an Activities Assistant in a nursing home facility for many reasons, but one reason was that this building was full
of spirits, mostly newly departed, but this building was over 100 years old, and there was some bad energy there. I would have to clear my energetic field all
the time, and I always put up protection before I entered work. Now, I know this must sound flaky, but I really did get attacked there, a nurse or assistant
would look at me and say, "are you alright?", and then they would freak out that I had grown so pale, it was as if I was about to pass out. I would
notice it by watching my thoughts, and they would be very negative, and I would think, what the hell did I just think that for? and this would cause me to
remember what was going on. Another way to tell if you are under the FE influence is if you find yourself in a really bad mood, all of a sudden for no reason.
This kind of stuff has been going on for so long with me, I feel like a light bulb glowing on the back porch being hit with moths and other bugs. I wonder if
others are accosted by neg. energy as frequently as I am? All I do to remedy the situation is to clear my energetic field with a method I have pieced together
over the years. I wonder if there is something else I should do, because I feel that I am just getting rid of them, not stalking them, and this has no
permanent effect. So, if anyone would like to share what they do to deal with this type of energy, let me know.




Also, what do you do when your dreaming just stops? As soon as I had some direction for dreaming, BAM, stopped in my tracks, and I know I am dreaming, but I
can't remember a single one lately. This is a most frustrating situation. Does this every happen to you? If so, what do you do about it? I guess these
questions should be in the dreaming thread.




Dreamgirl

[Nagual LoneWolf]

"Also, what do you do when your dreaming just stops? As soon as I had some direction for dreaming, BAM, stopped in my tracks, and I know I am dreaming,
but I can't remember a single one lately. This is a most frustrating situation. Does this every happen to you? If so, what do you do about it? I guess
these questions should be in the dreaming thread. "


Dreaming doesn't stop, you stop dreaming. We stop ourselves because we are conditioned to by safeguards created in our human framework. One must begin to
master their internal dialogue to go past themselves and to places where power awaits. This is one of many steps to take.

[dreamgirl]

You are so right LoneWolf, my internal dialog has been going on and on lately, at first it slipped by me, thinking I was just thinking about my new job, and
this opened up a can of worms. Thanks for the reminder.




Dreamgirl

[Nagual LoneWolf]

I also find my dreaming affected by my awake side worries. My dreams have been all over the place but I hope to make new inroads in the coming months.