Descriptions of the Nagual (Nagual Lone Wolf)

[Castor]

When we have endured specific tests and trials of the Nagual, which manifest as various forms of adversity in tonal life, we reach a point where we are rewarded with an initiation of omens. During this initiation, we undergo a transformation as the natural result of our cumulative inner work. With each installment we transform ourselves further than the last. We are gradually attaining the permanent divine inner states of true Nagualism.
Omens are substantial occurrences and encounters that take place in the higher dimensions. And an warrior receives many rewards for his or her sacrifices leading to this crossroads. As we make these sacrifices within our lives, it can be painful. The rewards of the Nagual are both our incentive and our bonus for the great sacrifices we make a grasp of what we are fighting for. These rewards could be advanced faculties of Astral Projection, Intuition or Clairvoyance. As we move forward, we are also introducing true sensations of sobriety and peace within. In short, the prizes for our efforts gradually permit our metamorphosis into a divine, spiritual being that has changed itself.
The nagual gives then powers.
They are not received physically, although they are repercussions of the transforming work that the warrior carries out in his or her daily life. And the major changes within the warrior are certainly a palpable reality to him or her. Its presence is felt in their physical life. Even though people around an person may well sense a difference in character, it will never be a true indication of the bliss that the warrior is patiently acquiring within. Only an a person on this path can experience it.
There is more to life than a career, family and retirement. We can experience more than we are aware of. However, no one can ever undergo this amazing Path through another's experience. We must take it up ourselves.
Many terms denote certain stages or Initiations on the Path to Power. At one point we acquire Mastery.
Thus the nagual breeds its own agenda within humanity.

[Guest]

I will tell you the first meeting I had with my Nr.2(nagual).
I was facing the petty tyrant the spirit was given me at a regular bases. One day he started attacking me for no reason at all.(Verbal attack). I was looking at his eyes and then his throat and he suddenly started choking. I was still fixing him and by some I dunno what he went for the door. My fixation broke at that point. Then he came back.
My interpretation of that today is: my tonal was forced to restrain and the nagual took over. Somehow i fixed my will to that person.(I only learned about second attention years later). The Spirit saved hi sorry ass that day cause I did not know what I was doing and further even how to stop that.
Due to recent events the de -programing is effective and the Nr.2 is waking up more often. And I barely can control it.
Due to the amount of energy I was born with it is very hard to balance the two. I might end up hurting myself or someone around me. (I know some of the people in the world do not deserve the air they breathe but since Our Mother bares them
so will we).
Your guidance is not only requested but needed in this situation. We have so little time on this Earth together so we might as well enjoy it and do the best that we can. I had no hope that I will find you someday so I am glad. We are one and the shift won't happen any time soon as far as I can see it. I am an MD in my RL, and I try to balance curandera with it.(LLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLL)
I am really happy that we met at last(maybe you *saw* me jumping all over when I read the posts).
Thanks for existing on this Earth,
Rossetta

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Hello and it is my honor to have you here. Maybe you read or elsewhere of how uncontrolled bursts can and will affect people nearby when we let it out.
It is what you refer to as Nr.2. I myself have done such feats and it is something that look me along time to control, if only to blend in with society and not be treated like a freak of nature.
Thats why I love the movies X-Men...how close it that to ones who are living in theis world and connect with the nagual in this fashion?
Im glad you found your way here. You will learn the discplines and be ok I can tell. Its not hard once we understand the source of what he hold within.

[Guest]

It's an honor to be here, thank you. Not at that time. Only later. My nagual reacts when I'm threatend.(Any kind of threat to my physical person makes it react).
LOOOOOOOL indeed you cannot have that jumping at people's throats.
Lately it's just showing teeth- at comets and/or lousy tonals looooool.Started to play with one of my theachers last year--a very lousy kind of self importance and self indugence mix (one of my colegues reffeed to her as "excrement"- literaly -I was ROFL when i heard that).
The warrior has to be silent and perfectly "common" especially the nagual. Thats why the nagual has two faces.
A few, Matrix had touched even more.
I'm glad ,too. By directing it by stalking with Intent (followed a link< a link< a link to find the comet and maybe a yellow rose).Kickin comets arz it's good for the Health of this red Nagual, says Nr.2.
My INTENT(unseen) it's a he or she? Btw I liked one of the pics posted by Mario. The one with the sun and moon.
And the first of those you posted.The temple is very appealing to me. My favorite is the The temple of the sun .Why is that?
Rossetta

[Guest]

Nr. 2 just said something. The man looking at me in my dream were you. I guess that you have light(blue/green) coloured eyes cause I remember the look. And since then I am looking for you. That dream was by Intent. I walked in on you and your party. You made me read Castaneda.
I am female and so is my Intent(that one has dark eyes probably black). All puppet masters are like this? I do not know yours (I don't know how many are you looool - I counted 7 but ...I can guess there are more).
And when I wrote at Intent I did so by Intent.I did not read
very many of the posts prior to my posting-- that day I shut down my comp, I went to bed but could not sleep I was feeling anxious.(Nr.2 speaking)
Oh well I said to myself maybe someone in that group can answer my question (I was reading about the nagual's party,
and I was curious about what I am).
You had some concerns about me. May I ask why?
Thanks,
Rossetta

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Concerns are that you are a stalker and when it comes to stalkers I try and remain a bit distant at first becaue stalkers have such poerful agendas..
Yes my eyes are blue...what you are is a telepath.my dear.

[Guest]

Telepath? 2 is a lot of things and I am just starting to know It. According to a reading I took, my nahwahl is A'K BAL (2 said i should write it that way).
When I was gazing at my teacher, I recall her saying something like "Is it getting hot in here, or it's just me?". Suddenly I thought to myself "let's see if I can find something different". I started gazing at my collegues who were attending the class.--That day, one collegue belonging to a different group of students,one I had a good feeling about her the first time we met(i do base my actions on the feeling of the moment, too), was attending then. I gazed at her and she "senced" the nagual and looked me in the eyes. 2 calmed down then. I gazed a bit more at both tonals untill the class ended.
My guess is I tryed to balance the nagual by gazing at the two different tonals.
I do not know about stalking, but the characters in Castaneda's books I liked the most(read the passages about them over and over) were/are the Nagual Julian Osorio and the Nagual Woman Talia.
My agenda? When you figure that one out please tell me too,I would like to know. The throwing out of the black shirt sounds like a good omen to me.
Can you tell me what does the white moth mean? One fled into my kitchen this summer. It is the first one I see,all the rest were grey.
Thank you,
Rossetta

[Nagual LoneWolf]

White moths are the dreaming moths.

[Guest]

I want to tell you i survived meeting my benefactor.
So that makes you my teacher.
Why does the "pulling" hurt? (affect the physical body, wanna understand from MD side)
Why is this done to the red nagual?
Can I adress my benefactors tonal? (or that will bring back the nagual)
I wanted to ask this questions since I read Castaneda. Now they have a "personal" meening. Guess each experience is personal.
Did I see the nagual before? I recall recently seeing a UFO kind of thing by my window not long ago.
Alive and kicking,
Rossetta

[Nagual LoneWolf]

The pulling is a tremendous draw on your solor plexus area..causes us to feel sick and off balance.
a RED NAGUAL is one who has crossed pass the third guardian, thus they attract the next world which is past death of mortals.
You can address all you want.....
The ufo and the nagual are connected...its a fact.

[Guest]

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool


I was laughing/crying like crazy. Both of me.


The first time we met and now.


Since you are who you are, can you send me the books?


You know I lost the track at some point. I cannot remember.


There are Master Of Willt(You),Master Of Intent(Eligio), Master of Awerness (Carol?),And I dunno who are you Su.As you can see i lost my balance.Bring it
back to me. What a nice


stunt you pulled (3 pronged nagual,untill I saw the Chac'mools. My 2 fixed on Kylie so hard looooooooooool, but i guess that's why you sent it.


The other story I don't get is the one of blue and orange scout.


2 has a wierd ideea of comets.Since they are so flexible, you can bend them backwords, put the head through the ass hole to see the light within. What is this?




Rossetta

[Nagual LoneWolf]

That we pull is our chance. Chance is the offer of power that lasts 3 seconds.

[Guest]

The pull is the grabbing of the umbilical fibers partially inside the body of a human, that would be the 3 seconds NLW mentions. The pulling them out may last for a while ( hours) and the force that untangles them is so powerful that a small gap is created between the cocoon and the mass wilt fibers, death enters in the same spot usually within days from the start of the process. When the void enters the cocoon implodes and crushes in small puzzle like pieces the human enters a clinical death phase that lasts also more then 3 seconds, it is mandatory that the process would be done to an adult human in perfect health and balanced. If the apprentice chooses life in that body will use the wilt fibers to gather puzzle pieces and uses an meridian type of alignment if it is like me CC and NLW then it wakes up with a cocoon structure that resembles a wooden core of the house, then brick by brick and one day after another it fills it, until one day it resembles the cocoon that collapsed upon death.
A being asleep can be seen by the passers as an ovoid or round form that can fly float or move around the coordinates of  the same universe we use in our daily life sometimes can be captured on camera just as much as anything else on this planet. It is a link between the dreaming body, the double and the human physical body that grew up together tied into one entity.
I cannot believe i actually waited those answers to come from another at least those that were worth replying, even if my perception focused on a lot of things without real importance to my own development i still see that some of my questions were worth a serious reply.

[scout1]

Do not use your humanity, pls.

[scout1]

Do not LOOSE your humanity, pls.



*corection ( as i see no edit/delete here)

[Guest]

I am and always be human perhaps because i know compassion, kindness, respect and mercy little details that miss from the average warriors cocoon. Such attributes are considered a weakness and removed before and during apprenticeship to reach a solitary detachment, a ruthlessness that rivals unjustifiable cruelty, attributes the average human does not posses. See, the nagual described is not like god it's like a being without soul acting out it's inner desires, denying all notions of good and evil for more power. That is what destroyed CC lust for power not the power he willed to gather.

[scout1]

Yes, in the latter books he simply exchanged the soul for "energy body" and the demons for "inorganic beings".



But thats a mere phenomenology/hermeneutics, a mere syntax, a maneuver.



Or was it his intent what was "bad" ?





In the classical thought CC has destined as a "Moses", not reaching the promised land. So he did something as a sorcerer in the end. He was not evil being alive, causing sorrow. It was not he who is to blame. For speaking with that other Indian, nor for living a boheme life-style in L.A., on Pandora avenue.



But after his dead, its a pure Ancient Mexico whats left :-))



And You dont need to be hijacked by the sorcery of ancient Mexico boys and girls..

[delawaredan]

The new seers are not like the old sorcerers.  Don Juan made that clear.  Warriors can have compassion.

[Guest]

Warriors have the compassion of the ancient slave owners, the same compassion a butcher has when it kills something the same mercy to not torture the being more then needed. If something is not real how could it ever feel sorrow, if something is a program like love, how would it feel something is harming it? That is what they should learn real compassion.
He was always like that even when he was only Carlos not even apprentice, DJ pointed that out to him on many occasions. A cruel man with the sexual maturity of a horny teen visiting prostitutes, enjoying his sad pleasures with those like him seeking endless excuses for his ill behaviour. Then he was told not to seek excuses anymore and was praised for what he has done that did not improve him much as apprentice, as nagual left alone he associated with the beings most similar to him yet he was already running to get an ahead start.
CC was like a Moses in the promised land but with closed eyes not seeing his surroundings, the Moses that grew up in the imperial palace at Pi ramese,  a marvel in the desert for the Pharaoh's delight. With the Nile bringing fresh water to the city through man built canals, under the rule of a just king, understanding between it's many inhabitants most foreigner to Egypt, with their own rites and beliefs and searching it even if this time he called it Ixtlan. With no sight of it again because he had destroyed it, every day and he was unable to rebuild it because he did not create it he was simply lucky to get born within it, then waiting in the desert, speaking to god about his desire until something/ or the universe re- built it.

[scout1]

It's no use girl.. you have the new cycle anyway, those we were, in the beginning.. it was NLW.. and it was You, and it was me. And it was Dreamways and our Della. And seesaw. And Dan.and my friend from Bulgaria.. and Armando Torres, Henry, Abe, all the boys and girls touched by the ancient intent, nothing to do with Carlitos ! It was his problem and responsibility, and it was your responsibility and so it is now. Look at us. Look at NLW etc look at Yourself. Its You. You got the Map. See the mirror ? =)



So dont blame everything bad on Carlitos !







It has lasted for millions of years and one second.. now its Your turn !!

[quantumshaman]

I think modern day warriors have what is best referred to as "empathy" - essentially a bit different than compassion.  Whereas compassion might be defined as as "co-passion" (sharing of passion, therefore sharing of "feeling"), empathy is simply an awareness that enables the warrior to better adhere to "the right way to live." Empathy can inform the warrior that, for example, there is no difference between the life of a feral cat and her kittens than the life of a human mother and her child.  Both are just entities struggling to get through their day, and the manner in which I conduct myself may affect the outcome (whether human or animal).  Empathy tells me that all things want to live and so I am able to put myself in their position.  Compassion, on the other hand, CAN have the tendency to make me feel "sorry" for other beings, but not necessarily give me any real reason to alter my behaviours.  Empathy is such that when we FEEL what another being feels, we automatically make more humane (i.e., empathic) choices.
To some, this may seem just a case of semantics, but strictly speaking, warriors need to be empaths.  Compassion is for ordinary men, beause it is little more than lip service.  Empathy is compassion in put into action.

[delawaredan]

Good point QS....empathy can come from a place of no pity and compassion has ties to self importance.

[Cedar Waxwing]

PerSyd said "Warriors have the compassion of the ancient slave owners, the same compassion a butcher has when it kills something the same mercy to not torture the being more then needed"



The slaves became Warriors. Petty tyrants as compassionate warriors? AND I see no corellation whatsoever between a slave and a pig. Unless pigs are a labor force and you are a cannibal.

[Guest]

The ancients were cannibals sometimes, unfortunately some beings look like humans yet they behave worse then animals that' s not new ,also if by a chance all this abundance would go away or warriors would become suddenly unlucky then how would they behave? Excuse me if i fail to understand but what slaves, did the farm owner's grandchild work for a living ( CC described that he hunted as child he was born rich not a slave, free to follow a school in the US, where i was born the slaves cannot buy it, so, i doubt that in the streets of Cajamarca or those in Peru the slaves can afford it  ) or did his lovely teacher offer a meal to the poor children for nothing except kindness or empathy? The rest around him were most likely the spoiled little children of abundance somewhere born rich not slaves, amongst the wealthy of their kind.
Back to the Kylie video: I was never able to do the magical passes properly i tried yet i always lacked grasping something like a ball, or a rope for the Abelar passes. Now that i have seen the movement i know why i was so fascinated with her execution of the movements, the reason why i came here 4 years ago. She and the rest were killing people ( by ripping the yarn ball ) and subduing them to their will ( when pulling out the rope). Ruthless, petty little humans with a self importance so sky high they were capable of imagining they were the Eagle or it's messengers. That is why their cocoon has a thick layer of void around, they are none even human.
For that kind of beings is only one way to address, making them taste their own doings, after, make them follow their own command cause the Eagle's was not good enough for them.

[scout1]

PerSyd You dont know CC, You are writing sentimentally blinded irrelevant non-sense judgements about him.. and certainly You cant judge him like that.. thats idiotic. You get hurt in that, in CCs stuff as an affair of Your life ? I ve got hurt in that, i was a boy, teenager reading his books. But that was my fault, not grandfathers, as for the direct challenges concerned. That was a magic of his books what was a captivity.
as to the Tensegrity, some good people are doing it without detriment as the shamanistic path is concerned. 
Maybe there can be a problem that someone is identifying with a practitioner on a video (like You with Kylie, or with a cleargreen practitioner), but such a paranoiac view is not the Tensegrity an sich, even if You were practising the video III, crossing from chordata to anthropoda (a real, extremely wierd curiosity, not a cup of  tea) or the extremely ancient passes from the video I. 
The Book, The Heat series and Westwood seriss are legit. E.g. for the concerns or even seeing energy directly. Nothing implicitly evil bonded to that.
CC has retained his awareness after death. He wanted to do so. He was a sorcerer.


That was world of shamans of ancient Mexico. The sorcery of ancient Mexico.
Old sorcerers.
 Whats left. 


Not for us. Not our destiny.