Gonzo wrote:
, it gets rather deeply into the
technical aspects of HTML. It looks like there have been multiple settings or choices of a background color, then no text, then a choice of text color, to
keep it simple.
Bottom line, there are no gremlins or hackers messing with your posts. This is just software trying to do what it thinks you want...
G
no gremlins??
you sure???
look, i'm a bit ignorant here (understatement) but - how can there be
"multiple choices" when all i can do is click buttons on the check
box? and when i click again it automatically postpones the past choices - or so
it acted before? (for when i coudn't post color i tried also to delete the
color to start freshly - but it would not have deleted, that is' on the edit
box.)
And how is it possible this kind software saved my colors in "edit"
state but refused to show them on board? (and this during the night, when my PC
was shut closed, modem disconnected. thou true - i couldn't disconnect the
modem properly, for, as happens sometimes, instead of opening the window of
"conect\disconect", opened a little window saying "modem's
program is already open!" so all i can do is disconnect it physically, but
when i reconnect, next time i open my PC, i get the same window - announcing it
is already open (but then opens the window of conect\disconent.)
and how come it chose a possibility non-existent on that check-box (the
squares?)
than i moved there:
http://worldnagualforum.yuku.com/topic/678
yuku forums>the Castaneda forum>the old seers>warriorsss
target=glory;warriors goal-freedom
and couldn't post colors!
so i copied the text to a window document - and couldn't delete the colors!
so i copied the text to notebook document - and it turned the lines (moving punctuation
marks at the of a line to the beginning of the line. This phenomena occurs on
some pages when shifting between Hebrew and English.)
copying back to windows, changing punctuation marks line by line… writing new
text it still put them PMs at the beginning! i looked to see if it was on
"Hebrew" - yes. Clicked "English" - no change. tried this
and that... no change. occasionally i clicked "Hebrew"(the doc was in
English) - and the PMs jumped into place!
BUT when i copied it to editing box and clicked "save" - no colors.
re- erranged all the colors (no back ground, just font colors this time) - no
colors and the text align right. clicked align left - nothing. clicked all
different alignments - nothing. Changed browser - the other browser
claimed this page didn't exist. opened it from the forum's page - it did exist,
and no problem to edit colors this time.)
are you telling me it's all a work of a well-intending program?
help!!!
i'll rather have gremlins!!!
i won't ask you to bother and explain the HTML aspects - that will be unfair,
since i don't intend to study it thoroughly - but do tell me one
thing: though (I geuss, i might be wrong) each of this incidents could be
possibly explained as a coincidence of sorts – aren't they - by the principle
of ocam razors - just too many such thing to be a collection of coincidence? or
am i wrong?)
no gremlins??
you sure???
look, i'm a bit ignorant here (understatement) but - how can there be
"multiple choices" when all i can do is click buttons on the check
box? and when i click again it automatically postpones the past choices - or so
it acted before? (for when i coudn't post color i tried also to delete the
color to start freshly - but it would not have deleted, that is' on the edit
box.)
And how is it possible this kind software saved my colors in "edit"
state but refused to show them on board? (and this during the night, when my PC
was shut closed, modem disconnected. thou true - i couldn't disconnect the
modem properly, for, as happens sometimes, instead of opening the window of
"conect\disconect", opened a little window saying "modem's
program is already open!" so all i can do is disconnect it physically, but
when i reconnect, next time i open my PC, i get the same window - announcing it
is already open (but then opens the window of conect\disconent.)
and how come it chose a possibility non-existent on that check-box (the
squares?)
than i moved there:
http://worldnagualforum.yuku.com/topic/678
yuku forums>the Castaneda forum>the old seers>warriorsss
target=glory;warriors goal-freedom
and couldn't post colors!
so i copied the text to a window document - and couldn't delete the colors!
so i copied the text to notebook document - and it turned the lines (moving punctuation
marks at the of a line to the beginning of the line. This phenomena occurs on
some pages when shifting between Hebrew and English.)
copying back to windows, changing punctuation marks line by line… writing new
text it still put them PMs at the beginning! i looked to see if it was on
"Hebrew" - yes. Clicked "English" - no change. tried this
and that... no change. occasionally i clicked "Hebrew"(the doc was in
English) - and the PMs jumped into place!
BUT when i copied it to editing box and clicked "save" - no colors.
re- erranged all the colors (no back ground, just font colors this time) - no
colors and the text align right. clicked align left - nothing. clicked all
different alignments - nothing. Changed browser - the other browser
claimed this page didn't exist. opened it from the forum's page - it did exist,
and no problem to edit colors this time.)
are you telling me it's all a work of a well-intending program?
help!!!
i'll rather have gremlins!!!
i won't ask you to bother and explain the HTML aspects - that will be unfair,
since i don't intend to study it thoroughly - but do tell me one
thing: though (I geuss, i might be wrong) each of this incidents could be
possibly explained as a coincidence of sorts – aren't they - by the principle
of ocam razors - just too many such thing to be a collection of coincidence? or
am i wrong?)
no gremlins??
you sure???
look, i'm a bit ignorant here (understatement) but - how can there be
"multiple choices" when all i can do is click buttons on the check
box? and when i click again it automatically postpones the past choices - or so
it acted before? (for when i coudn't post color i tried also to delete the
color to start freshly - but it would not have deleted, that is' on the edit
box.)
And how is it possible this kind software saved my colors in "edit"
state but refused to show them on board? (and this during the night, when my PC
was shut closed, modem disconnected. thou true - i couldn't disconnect the
modem properly, for, as happens sometimes, instead of opening the window of
"conect\disconect", opened a little window saying "modem's
program is already open!" so all i can do is disconnect it physically, but
when i reconnect, next time i open my PC, i get the same window - announcing it
is already open (but then opens the window of conect\disconent.)
and how come it chose a possibility non-existent on that check-box (the
squares?)
than i moved there:
http://worldnagualforum.yuku.com/topic/678
yuku forums>the Castaneda forum>the old seers>warriorsss
target=glory;warriors goal-freedom
and couldn't post colors!
so i copied the text to a window document - and couldn't delete the colors!
so i copied the text to notebook document - and it turned the lines (moving punctuation
marks at the of a line to the beginning of the line. This phenomena occurs on
some pages when shifting between Hebrew and English.)
copying back to windows, changing punctuation marks line by line… writing new
text it still put them PMs at the beginning! i looked to see if it was on
"Hebrew" - yes. Clicked "English" - no change. tried this
and that... no change. occasionally i clicked "Hebrew"(the doc was in
English) - and the PMs jumped into place!
BUT when i copied it to editing box and clicked "save" - no colors.
re- erranged all the colors (no back ground, just font colors this time) - no
colors and the text align right. clicked align left - nothing. clicked all
different alignments - nothing. Changed browser - the other browser
claimed this page didn't exist. opened it from the forum's page - it did exist,
and no problem to edit colors this time.)
are you telling me it's all a work of a well-intending program?
help!!!
i'll rather have gremlins!!!
i won't ask you to bother and explain the HTML aspects - that will be unfair,
since i don't intend to study it thoroughly - but do tell me one
thing: though (I geuss, i might be wrong) each of this incidents could be
possibly explained as a coincidence of sorts – aren't they - by the principle
of ocam razors - just too many such thing to be a collection of coincidence? or
am i wrong?)
no gremlins??
you sure???
look, i'm a bit ignorant here (understatement) but - how can there be
"multiple choices" when all i can do is click buttons on the check
box? and when i click again it automatically postpones the past choices - or so
it acted before? (for when i coudn't post color i tried also to delete the
color to start freshly - but it would not have deleted, that is' on the edit
box.)
And how is it possible this kind software saved my colors in "edit"
state but refused to show them on board? (and this during the night, when my PC
was shut closed, modem disconnected. thou true - i couldn't disconnect the
modem properly, for, as happens sometimes, instead of opening the window of
"conect\disconect", opened a little window saying "modem's
program is already open!" so all i can do is disconnect it physically, but
when i reconnect, next time i open my PC, i get the same window - announcing it
is already open (but then opens the window of conect\disconent.)
and how come it chose a possibility non-existent on that check-box (the
squares?)
than i moved there:
http://worldnagualforum.yuku.com/topic/678
yuku forums>the Castaneda forum>the old seers>warriorsss
target=glory;warriors goal-freedom
and couldn't post colors!
so i copied the text to a window document - and couldn't delete the colors!
so i copied the text to notebook document - and it turned the lines (moving punctuation
marks at the of a line to the beginning of the line. This phenomena occurs on
some pages when shifting between Hebrew and English.)
copying back to windows, changing punctuation marks line by line… writing new
text it still put them PMs at the beginning! i looked to see if it was on
"Hebrew" - yes. Clicked "English" - no change. tried this
and that... no change. occasionally i clicked "Hebrew"(the doc was in
English) - and the PMs jumped into place!
BUT when i copied it to editing box and clicked "save" - no colors.
re- erranged all the colors (no back ground, just font colors this time) - no
colors and the text align right. clicked align left - nothing. clicked all
different alignments - nothing. Changed browser - the other browser
claimed this page didn't exist. opened it from the forum's page - it did exist,
and no problem to edit colors this time.)
are you telling me it's all a work of a well-intending program?
help!!!
i'll rather have gremlins!!!
i won't ask you to bother and explain the HTML aspects - that will be unfair,
since i don't intend to study it thoroughly - but do tell me one
thing: though (I geuss, i might be wrong) each of this incidents could be
possibly explained as a coincidence of sorts – aren't they - by the principle
of ocam razors - just too many such thing to be a collection of coincidence? or
am i wrong?)
edit: i had to edit for i got the lines aliged to write again. clicking on different elighment changed nothing, but after clikcing "edit" they mysteriously aligned left.
here is the post on castaneda forum as produced by my other browsr:
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Posts: 142
01/09/10
08:08:38
Tags: None
...
charlila wrote:
last 11,000 (or is it 24,000?)earth years [or so i claim] passed (on
earth and all who dwell inside her induction field) in deep amnesia.
all we can remember
from that period is flat like a poster.
i am privileged - or ill=fated - to have lived once on another time
scale (as butterflies, for example, are living on another time-scale
than elephants -
butterflies would remember 30 years ago as ancient times, while an
elephant or a human would still remember some) - so i still remember
some. (it's not
like this life memory; hardly any visions; i recognize people, places,
stories,some of those evoke memories. BUT i remember who i am, where i
belong, what is
my job, bits and pieces from my skills, whom i love, to whom i am
faithful, what i came to do here now,a general construct of a magical
language, tones of
poetry and an old advise: "at least enjoy!")
quantum shaman wrote:
DJM said...
.... Your double is dreaming you. ... That's the mystery of us as
luminous beings. You can awaken in either one. (don Juan, TALES OF
POWER)
-Amnesia makes it all the more tricky-
quantum saman:
The double... is free to move both inside and outside of time/space/gender…
Charlila:
imho "inside" and "outside" are both point of views, both needed
THOU - most doubles ARE signed by gender.
those whose double's gender signature is blank, like the tenant, are not human - they are alchevi" (IBs, the
tunnels)."
a group of them got stuck in human body on
earth when the wall of fog seperated right side of awareness from left,
and since
originally they are not from a du-gendered specie, they can incarnate
in both genders equally - which has to do with xoxonopo's reverse of
gender
I'm very sorry for the loss of your daughter and wish you both comfort and "the edge."
thank you Della
"? you mean - you think the dead are still needing their "edge
(?or you think Meitar does?)
Bad wording on my part.
i don't think so. i think you saw something.
I perceive our mortal lives as finite
UNLESS we take ... steps ... to facilitate our evolution. ... the
creation & nurturing
of the double - ...the energetic vessel ... to house our awareness
following our mortal death.
this is from my past-life memory ..
in my own tribe, one of the saraf tribes'
assembly,creatures (humans, animals, plants and spirits - it's even not
an
original human tribe, though humans got the leadership) lived together
as a tribe not for a life-time, but for 15 lifetimes: first 10 to
master the tonal, in
order to optimize surviving strategies here on earth; the next 5 to
master the nagual, in order to train for THE JOURNEY TO THE SUM. [the
sun is the gate to
glory(=the space outside universes), while the universe is the womb
where we grow; the sun' to follow the analogy, is the vagina. the
journey is a birth to
the next dimension field.
this is the normal course of evolution.
such an immense love induction-field!
such a happiness!
it was broken and evolution got stuck - we,
all earth habitants, are all stuck here on for already 11,000 or maybe
22,000 or 24,000
years - ever since the fall of the Gate-House (=the Babylon tower) and
the destruction of Taghuar (the native land of the saraf.)
earth's trauma at the two successive events - the destruction of taghuar+the falling of the touwer - caused post-traumatic
effect - amnesia.
that's how come it is so easy to sell you the story that the double's map to ALL-TIME is all there is... a 2-dimensional
scheme of past, present end future...
an optical illusion!
And, of course, that's further assuming g that one doesn't take the route of becoming a death defier or tenant.
in Arabic they say Ba'eed Minac - far from you!
As I said... degrees of complexity…
no! degree of amnesia!
...make it impossible to give a single, simple answer.
normal evolution gives a simple, single
answer - a very long, hard and beautiful path with heart, [at least]15
lifetimes long (that
is, for humans - the length depends of course on the specie.)
Personally, I perceive death as final for beings whom don Juan referred to as "ordinary men" - meaning those who never
take any measures to evolve beyond the organic form they inhabit.
ordinary men are those immersed deep in
amnesia. or otherwise - those from young generations, who never been
awake, never had the
chance to raduallly wake. in a normal world, you evolve as naturally as
a baby is growing.
death is like sleep - in between life-times - would you like to skip all sleep? image not such a good idea...
personally i'm so very tired -like my cat Namer who was a fighter got, and at age 4 was so very old... like the Chinese master
whos name i forgot who wrote, shortly before he died (a quickie translation from a translation to Hebrew:
i'm satiated.
i set the chopsticks down.
-i remember particularly one day, not long
before disaster stroke, i took my dog for a walk, lied down on a
terrace in the strong
breeze - fell asleep - felt all i just want is to lay in the wind...
forever.
i believe i could have left my body than, in peace. but i couldn't leave my kids. and i had no dismissal from my job. and now
i'm obliged to stay even more, for i promised Meitar that her death will not be in vein. so i'll stay to the end.
evolution-wise, the function of death is
debuggin. when the normal karma releasing devices (which are out of
order now) can't do
more repair, when the body - and mind - have accumulated too many bugs,
death gives the soul opportunity to get refreshed, to get rid of all
bugs at once, also
to come back with a new body, into a new situation. (thou in a normal
world you born, unless on emergency, knwoing - remembering - who are
your parents, who
are your brothers and sisters, as well as who is your spouse and
children.)
would i like to stay forever in this old body, in this same furrow (is this DG'a term?) forever? of course not. no i want to
take of to the son with my tribe at the end? you bet!
a tiny task was left before we'll be able to do this: to get rid of all the karma. to do that, the karma net has to be exploded.
this is the isuue of fighting now - exploding the karma net in time.
(i'll try to find a link to my article "the hitch hiker guide to exploding the qarma nwt", if it is still on line. not
now - i'm too tired.)
But for those who take death as their advisor and look squarely at the reality of "beings who are going to die" and
then begin to live their lives accordingly... maybe (only a maybe) there is an alternative to this thing we call "death."
yea - these are the issues for graduating to glory.
Just my own rambling thoughts on a cool Tuesday morning here in the desert.
Thanks for listening, and thanks for your feedback.
Many blessings,
Della
pleasant dreams.
lillith
does this freindly program\gremlin keeps me editing posts, and than when something is changed, it's edited by me.
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and here it is as eventually posted:
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Posts: 143
01/09/10 09:11:39
[i reply instead of editing for
i'v wasted an hour already playing with this post and it keep acting weird see
at the end of this post]
quantum saman:
The double... is free to move both inside and
outside of time/space/gender…
Charlila:
imho "inside" and "outside" are both point of
views, both needed
THOU - most doubles ARE signed by gender.
those whose double's gender signature is blank, like the tenant,
are not human - they are alchevi" (IBs, the tunnels)."
a
group of them got stuck in human body on earth when the wall of fog seperated
right side of awareness from left, and since originally they are not from a
du-gendered specie, they can incarnate in both genders equally - which has to do
with xoxonopo's reverse of gender
I'm very sorry for the loss of
your daughter and wish you both comfort and "the edge."
thank you Della
"? you mean - you think the dead are still needing their
"edge
(?or you think Meitar does?)
Bad wording on my part.
i
don't think so. i think you saw something.
I
perceive our mortal lives as finite UNLESS we take ... steps ... to facilitate
our evolution. ... the creation & nurturing of the double - ...the energetic
vessel ... to house our awareness following our mortal death.
this is from my past-life memory ..
in
my own tribe, one of the saraf tribes' assembly,creatures (humans, animals,
plants and spirits - it's even not an original human tribe, though humans got
the leadership) lived together as a tribe not for a life-time, but for 15
lifetimes: first 10 to master the tonal, in order to optimize surviving
strategies here on earth; the next 5 to master the nagual, in order to train for
THE JOURNEY TO THE SUM. [the sun is the gate to glory(=the space outside
universes), while the universe is the womb where we grow; the sun' to follow the
analogy, is the vagina. the journey is a birth to the next dimension
field.
this is the normal course of evolution.
such an immense love induction-field!
such a happiness!
it
was broken and evolution got stuck - we, all earth habitants, are all stuck here
on for already 11,000 or maybe 22,000 or 24,000 years - ever since the fall of
the Gate-House (=the Babylon tower) and the destruction of Taghuar (the native
land of the saraf.)
earth's trauma at the two successive events - the destruction of
taghuar+the falling of the touwer - caused post-traumatic effect -
amnesia.
that's how come it is so easy to sell you the story that the
double's map to ALL-TIME is all there is... a 2-dimensional scheme of past,
present end future...
an
optical illusion!
And, of course, that's further assuming g that one doesn't take
the route of becoming a death defier or tenant.
in
Arabic they say Ba'eed Minac - far from you!
As
I said... degrees of complexity…
no! degree of amnesia!
...make it impossible to give a single, simple answer.
normal evolution gives a simple, single answer - a very long, hard
and beautiful path with heart, [at least]15 lifetimes long (that is, for humans
- the length depends of course on the specie.)
Personally, I perceive death as final for beings whom don Juan
referred to as "ordinary men" - meaning those who never take any measures to
evolve beyond the organic form they inhabit.
ordinary men are those immersed deep in amnesia.
or otherwise - those from young generations, who never been awake, never had the
chance to raduallly wake. in a normal world, you evolve as naturally as a baby
is growing.
death is like sleep - in between life-times - would you like to
skip all sleep? image not such a good idea...
personally i'm so very tired -like my cat Namer
who was a fighter got, and at age 4 was so very old... like the Chinese master
whos name i forgot who wrote, shortly before he died (a quickie translation from
a translation to Hebrew:
i'm satiated.
i
set the chopsticks down.
-i remember particularly one
day, not long before disaster stroke, i took my dog for a walk, lied down on a
terrace in the strong breeze - fell asleep - felt all i just want is to lay in
the wind... forever.
i
believe i could have left my body than, in peace. but i couldn't leave my kids.
and i had no dismissal from my job. and now i'm obliged to stay even more, for i
promised Meitar that her death will not be in vein. so i'll stay to the
end.
evolution-wise, the function of death is debuggin.
when the normal karma releasing devices (which are out of order now) can't do
more repair, when the body - and mind - have accumulated too many bugs, death
gives the soul opportunity to get refreshed, to get rid of all bugs at once,
also to come back with a new body, into a new situation. (thou in a normal world
you born, unless on emergency, knwoing - remembering - who are your parents, who
are your brothers and sisters, as well as who is your spouse and
children.)
would i like to stay forever in this old body, in
this same furrow (is this DG'a term?) forever? of course not. no i want to take
of to the son with my tribe at the end? you bet!
a
tiny task was left before we'll be able to do this: to get rid of all the karma.
to do that, the karma net has to be exploded. this is the isuue of fighting now
- exploding the karma net in time.
(i'll try to find a link to
my article "the hitch hiker guide to exploding the qarma nwt", if it is still on
line. not now - i'm too tired.)
But for those who take death as their advisor and look squarely at
the reality of "beings who are going to die" and then begin to live their lives
accordingly... maybe (only a maybe) there is an alternative to this thing we
call "death."
yea - these are the issues for graduating to
glory.
next della's post:
charlila:
taken by whom?
My double.
quantumshaman wrote:
After the experience ended, I asked him,
asked whom?
My double.
do i seem petty? i think this point is crucial.see, for example, what
happend to the image of god ever after the fog wall have grown so thick;
completely distorted! \
No, you don't seem petty.
However, I'm not a newbie, so I'm keenly aware of my energy at all times,
particularly with regard to who/what I choose to engage with. I say
this not to be argumentative, but to assure you I'm not being hornswaggled by
"baddies". I've worked actively with my double since 1988, and indirectly since
long before that - at least since I was around 8 years old.
It's rather
like knowing who you are. If someone doesn't know who they are, maybe they can
be led astray by IOBs or other "astral entities". For someone who has clarity
and an open channel to silent knowing, that simply isn't possible. I've had
extant "forces" attempt to pass themselves off as the double, and it's rather
like what might happen if someone were to put on your son's clothing and try to
fool you at close range. You know immediately that
it's an imposter because the energy signature cannot be forged. Authenticity
cannot be mimicked, so I have no fear of being "tricked" by IOBs, flyers or the
like.
Interesting background knowledge you've provided. I'm still
contemplating it - and thank you for sharing.
Many blessings,
Della
Hey Della
i browsed your site,
red exerpts, and one thing you will have to explain to me: you were saying
Orlando is your double AND in the same time your nagual man - right?
did i
get it right? no comprendo nada! would you explain?
nice site... well, a
lot to choose from, together with the curved font, makes the decition what to
click hard... but i'm being pathetic, your buisness desitions proved a lot
better than mine... )
a star-treck writer! wow! here you got my admiration!
a vempires
romace writer! that's how you get along so well with "tenants"?
( i click
"post" and take a breake.)
[i reply instead of
editing for i'v wasted an hour already playing with this post and it keep acting
weird see at the end of this post] - like elighning to the write no matter ehat
i do - also not respondidng to color change again - and when i tryed sifting
browser, it said the page does not exixt. openint the forom>the thread, it
does exist. now let's see how it is in this browser
(tested the color:
works. but hey, it worked also on the other browser at first!
here:
http://worldnagualforum.yuku.com/sreply ... -sun-.html
there is color!)
oh, maybe because i kept some of the colored
background square?
(could not delete it... copied all to word and the
"squares" of back ground colors - also other back-ground colors - still on...
copied it to notebook and it turned the last tag to line beginning - before my
notebook was fine on both languages... then word too messed the lines -
occasionally i discovered that when i clicked "Hebrew" it followed the
definitions correct for "inglish" (didn't check the vice versa)
so what now?
it is deleted on other brouser - if i copy from last post, same troubles...
???
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