The Old Sorcerers and Where They Are Today

[Gestblinde]

rosygyro wrote:An easterly seer couldnt agree with you.


If the universe is to evolve it does so becuase life is evolving and changing.
vampirism and energetic prey/theft.. are forms of entropy within the collective movement of life.


so err no!
But if nothing exists but the emanations of the "Eagle" or the Ocean of awareness as some seers name it, and the ultimate purpose is to expand our awareness.. Anything that expands it are sort of sanctioned by the spirit I guess.
The "flyers", "shadows" or "riders" of different lineages are a paradox here, immensly powerful but yet so easy to repell as you don´t really have to do anything..Just not-do something to get rid of them.
The Ancient seers looked at the Eagle and concluded that awareness was its food, none had the power to SEE the Eagle really but in flashes so they just did draw their own conclusions.
The eastern mystics searched for the Godhead and spoke of the love that it had for the awareness in all its creations.

There´s a very fine distinction between "love" and "hunger" at times..and perhaps none at all to many humans

[rosygyro]

Gestblinde wrote:rosygyro wrote:An easterly seer couldnt agree with you.

If the universe is to evolve it does so becuase life is evolving and changing.
vampirism and energetic prey/theft.. are forms of entropy within the collective movement of life.

so err no!But if nothing exists but the emanations of the "Eagle" or the Ocean of awareness as some seers name it, and the ultimate purpose is to expand our awareness.. Anything that expands it are sort of sanctioned by the spirit I guess.
The "flyers", "shadows" or "riders" of different lineages are a paradox here, immensly powerful but yet so easy to repell as you don´t really have to do anything..Just not-do something to get rid of them.
The Ancient seers looked at the Eagle and concluded that awareness was its food, none had the power to SEE the Eagle really but in flashes so they just did draw their own conclusions.
The eastern mystics searched for the Godhead and spoke of the love that it had for the awareness in all its creations.

There´s a very fine distinction between "love" and "hunger" at times..and perhaps none at all to many humans
 
I thought of an answer to this earlier it requires belief in THE BIG BANG.
there are many many people who believe in the big bang and the wierd thing is they seem to behave
as if the big bang is in each of their past individually..

the truth be known The big bang (EAGLE)
is in the same place unilaterally.

and if you think about it from the eagles(BIG BANGS) perspective
all life is
1) at an absolute equal crest/wave in TIME away from its original energy burst or THE PRESENT.

inherant awarness is not just individual power to connect to the immpossibly deep deep past and its ARCHETYPES
it is also something ALL people have housed in their depths regardless of if they are consious of those depths.

there is too much competitivness.. people who try to store personal power with regards to the eagles position
are doing human awarness a great diservice as they sway the general understanding of its orientation to the human condition with their 
over empowered self..
this does not effect the position of the eagle(BIG BANG)
but it does muddy the collective waters of our global Third eye.

[Gestblinde]

Ah, but do we subscribe to the view that everything happens within, or outside ourselves?
Or perhaps the Tonal view is outside while the Nagual one is very much within, meaning that the warriors path is a merging or rather balancing of those views.

The wave of time anchored in the present sort of..

[rosygyro]

we ascribe to the view that there is a force premanifest in our reality!
The crux of the infinite journey is that in life we intelligently co-operate with the flow of manifestation as it strikes the corporeal.
The tonal is a ring... a basic puch me pull you mirror of matter..
the nagual is a force that ascribes to no pattern we can discern as individuals 
although both nagual and tonal unfold as awarness manifest (eventually)

The inner world and out world are both elements of the tonal and also subject to the naguals flow.

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