Non-doings and words for us city folk

[Guest]

Even if I was born in a city, I fight to get myself out of it and I stay out of it as much as I can until it wont call me anymore. I do this because I simply find it necessary in order to be free being. 
Be careful what you read in general and my direct advice stop reading books completly
Stop the mind and gaze like Don Juan describes, every day, until you get tears from your eyes
Avoid coffee and caffein-based drinks unless used to break routines (such as drinking them in the night in order to stay up)
Remember that you need to fight like crazy to be a sorcerer in a city and I would say it is almost impossible; Don Juan was without thought and stayed away from cities
Another person like Don Juan Matus - just like the future - does not exist and we must kill that part of us that always secretly hopes to meet one, the part that looks for someone new that will re-arrange our perception and bring our journey to a conclusion; we are responsible for absolutely everything, what there is out there, is a horde of sorcerers and average men. What else that there is and may help are passer-by warriors or people that are on their way to becoming something. These people can lend a hand, depending of how far they have overcame themselves on the path of knowledge but they need to be let go of by others and they need to let go of power by themselves. As Don Juan said, words have incredible power, they mark one in stone and they are a means to attaining power. As warriors, we have a lifetime of struggle ahead of us even to begin thinking about becoming men of knowledge or hunters of power. If a passer-by warrior stops long enough, they will become sucked in by power or clarity and stop. Whatever weakness they will have, they will overlook it in order to get fed by the many who are especting someone like Don Juan. We are solo but like Don Juan said, the price is not impossible.
Practice the gait of power or the walking version in the city and walk for miles every day
Look up your weaknesses carefully and find or create non-doings for each, see where your power is going
Dont speak from what you havent conquered and always remember that words are only a limited means to achiving something; dont get sucked in by conversations too much as it consumes a lot of power

and finally

Have less and less to defend until you have nothing at all. Dont want anything that much. Keep your passion for your path as the only passion you have with you. Strive to get rid of everything, no matter how long it takes. Dont want to be liked, dont want your words to sound clean and well-polished. Focus on action instead, measure everything by what has been done. Period. We have a great disadvantage by being born/or having lived for most of our life in the cirty, from the warriors perspective. If we had parents that made us weak by giving us everything, we must fight like crazy. In such cases, the best way is to find the other extreme and stay there for a bit, no matter how unpleasant it may be, until something changes..

Never give up. Fight yourself like crazy.

[delawaredan]

"Look up your weaknesses carefully and find or create non-doings for each, see where your power is going "  - I am going to make use of this exercise today, it is something that has been emerging within me by spirit.    thank you for the reminder of this place of no pity.

[cabbageman]

Do you have any advice for warriors who are married to someone with a completely different belief system?

[Howaitepantego]

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[cabbageman]

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[Uncle Sam]

Flyers are common. i.e. to extend the cognitive system of the second person. This is how one becomes warrior. Inner silence is the instruction on path way.

i.e. accumulation of inner silence. (because of flyers)

[Uncle Sam]

i.e. accumulation of inner silence. (because of flyers)

[Uncle Sam]

Technically, the importance of daily meditation practice, clearing head energy centers. I can recall Dreamgirl (dreamer) that she started dreaming freely after beginning with this sitting meditation.
The best is Zazen (Buddhas practice)

[quantumshaman]

Generally speaking, a seeker has to walk the path knowing it is a solitary road.  If you're fortunate enough to have someone to share it with, that's awesome.  If not, remember that you are doing it for you, and for no one else.  There's a great bit in one of the CC books about "your person must die"

Don Juan to Carlos Castaneda...
THE ACTIVE SIDE OF INFINITY
I think everything boils down to one act: you must leave your friends. You must say good-bye to them, for good. It's not possible for you to continue on the warrior's path carrying your personal history with you, and unless you discontinue your way of life, I won't be able to go ahead with my instruction.
Your friends are your family, they are your points of reference. Therefore, they have to go. Sorcerers have only one point of reference: infinity.
You must simply leave, leave any way you can.
You have never been alone in your life. This is the time to do it. I don't want your body to die physically. I want your person to die. The two are very different affairs. In essence, your person has very little to do with your body. Your person is your mind, and believe you me, your mind is not yours.
I'll tell you about that subject someday, but not while you're cushioned by your friends.
The criteria that indicates that a sorcerer is dead is when it makes no difference to him whether he has company or whether he is alone. The day you don't covet the company of your friends, whom you use as shields, that's the day that your person has died.
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Whenever this subject was raised on The Sorcerer's World (my forum), it always led to controversy but also to a greater understanding of what the warrior's path really is. 
QS

[Senear]

Testrrrr

[glance left]

Therein lies the problem in taking the words from someone else's experience and turning it into liturgy.  This quote is DJ talking to CC because of the nature of the relationship he had with his friends..namely that they would never let him pursue his destiny.  We've probably all had relationships like that at some point, but that's not to say all relationships are like that. 
For me, the bottom line is cultivating discernment....no-nonesense clarity about our personal, individual situation.  In this context, its easy to figure out what we need to drop in our lives.  Get silent and connect with my inner seer..and then briskly make a list of those things you I are holding me back *snap*  We know how to be clear with ourselves and sort of indulge in "confusion" because we don't want to face hard facts about what's working and what's not working.  Because we know there'll be a certain discomfort in letting go what's become familiar..even though its making us miserable in the long run.
"Remember that you need to fight like crazy to be a sorcerer in a city and I would say it is almost impossible"
I agree with the first part...but as for the second, I don't think its impossible at all.  I know lots of potent warrior/sorcerers who live in cities and they all make use of what's at their disposal in terms of that special quality of energy available in the city, of which there is boatloads.  Adapt!  Take a lesson from the coyote, one of the only predatory animals that actually has learned to increase its numbers in the presence of man impinging on its natural territory.  It's learned to adapt...and the adapting required amidst living in the city can be invaluable in terms of navigating those predatory forces out there

[quantumshaman]

Glance..
I agree largely with what you're saying here - particularly about adapting, city-life vs. non-city life, etc.  I think a real warrior can BE a warrior in any environment - rather like Kwai Chang Cain walking through the world as Himself whether in the monastery or the real world.  It's who we are inside that determines how we will meet the path.
I also agree that it's often a matter of choosing one's friends wisely - but the problem most warriors run into in that regard is that unless one's friends are also warriors, then one's friends are phantoms.  There really is no middle ground.  And phantoms, by their very nature, are always trying to pull the warrior back on the road to Ixtlan.  Whether they mean well or not is irrelevant.  They do what they do because they are what they are.  Sure, a warrior can adapt to that for awhile or even indefinitely, but a warrior also sees the hollow emptiness in a phantom's eyes and realizes s/he is alone even in a roomful of "friends." 
Another point to be considered is that don Juan clearly recognized that Carlos had not yet reached a point where he could "resist" the siren call of the phantoms.  And, sorry to say, many warriors never reach that point.  That being the case, I would have to stand by don Juan's initial statements:
Don Juan wrote:
I think everything boils down to one act: you must leave your friends. You must say good-bye to them, for good. It's not possible for you to continue on the warrior's path carrying your personal history with you, and unless you discontinue your way of life, I won't be able to go ahead with my instruction.
Your friends are your family, they are your points of reference. Therefore, they have to go. Sorcerers have only one point of reference: infinity. When a warrior has phantoms as his "point of reference" it really does boil down to carrying one's personal history with them.  Too much baggage.
You make some good points, too.  Clearly, this is one of those aspects of don Juan's teachings that can become very controversial.  Also something to think about from a warrior's perspective.
QS

[glance left]

Quid pro quo   i.e. I largely agree with what you've mentioned above, understanding of course that "points of reference" are everywhere all the time.  Leave one set and adopt another..  But I get what you're getting at
"Sorcerers have only one point of reference: infinity."  I love that line right there.  It sums up so much of what's been shown to me in those shifted states of perception.  It helps me embody the mood of "and yet....." which is so important in how I view the world...allowing for that which I don't see...even in other people I might presume as "warriors" or "not warriors"   The deepest truth is beyond description, isn't it?  Not just a gray area between black and white..."this and that".  Instead, its an unfathomable array of colors in between...mixing, roaming, exchanging, interplaying perennially in a way that defies categorization.
Coyotes have learned to navigate that strange space between city and the wild....the edges which bleed into one another.  I admire that quality, down deep   They may not be the fiercest predator out there...the most impressive in those terms.  Probably wouldn't do well one-on-one with a wolf, for instance.  But they survive on the whole where most others don't.  I find that most impressive, indeed!

[cabbageman]

Hey guys, could you please tell me what the road to Ixtlan is and what phantoms are briefly? I've read all of CC's books and haven't had a clear view of what the road to Ixtlan is. 

Thank you!!

[glance left]

"Do you have any advice for warriors who are married to someone with a completely different belief system? "
Cabbage, 
My wife is a devoted Christian.  In fact, she's LUTHERAN lol!  And yet, I'm finding there's plenty of space in our relationship to navigate freely and affectionately.  Space...can be intended..in even the tightest, most unlikely-est of places.   Don't even have to know the how's and where's in terms of finding it...just intend to find that space and watch "cracks" open up in what you presumed to be an impenetrable  wall

[quantumshaman]

cabbageman wrote:
Hey guys, could you please tell me what the road to Ixtlan is and what phantoms are briefly? I've read all of CC's books and haven't had a clear view of what the road to Ixtlan is. 



Thank you!! 











The best description you will find of it is at the end of JOURNEY TO IXTLAN.  If you read Chapter 20, you'll get a good feel for what is meant by phantoms on the road to Ixtlan.

[quantumshaman]

glance left wrote:
"Sorcerers have only one point of reference: infinity."  I love that line right there.  It sums up so much of what's been shown to me in those shifted states of perception.  It helps me embody the mood of "and yet....." which is so important in how I view the world...allowing for that which I don't see...even in other people I might presume as "warriors" or "not warriors"   The deepest truth is beyond description, isn't it?  Not just a gray area between black and white..."this and that".  Instead, its an unfathomable array of colors in between...mixing, roaming, exchanging, interplaying perennially in a way that defies categorization.
   Yes, absolutely.  That's why the topic can become so volatile - people tend to perceive in opposites (black/white, good/evil, right/wrong), when the reality is that it's the shades of gray where we live.

[Uncle Sam]

Just a note. Explanation.

"Phantoms on the road to Ixtlan" are people with FI !!! everyday social reality :-))))
(including some people on this board :-))
all those people, our fellow citiziens, with foreign installation, foreign mind, foreign energy in their head energetic centers. Those people are flyers or flyer infested so to speak, assholes.
Thats explanation. This happens to every man who starts on the path of knowledge, warrior path. It only looks like it, if you focus on it.
Practically, for a free man, man is not focusing on it. They are only chickens, or people in Matrix (as a nagual, i recommend to disconnect people from Matrix). Just mind your safety (property, money, health) in society.
But it is only brief, no need to trip on it. But after one is free of foreign energy in the head, then all the reality is a trip, beautiful ) Thats reason for daily meditation practice.
So people are flyers, those phantoms on the road to Ixtlan. Never trust anyone, they are all infested.
But this is not a problem. One must just simply count with it when dealing with, to not trip on their FI (it can make "hallucinations", their FI to you, or your FI to their FI).
This is typical. The start of every path of freedom.
:-))))
"The grand trick," don Juan continued, "was to burden the flyers' mind with discipline.
"Sorcerers found out that if they taxed the flyers' mind with inner silence, the foreign installation would flee, and give any one of the practitioners involved in this maneuver the total certainty of the mind's foreign origin.

"The foreign installation comes back, I assure you, but not as strong;
and a process begins in which the fleeing of the flyers' mind becomes
routine until one day it flees permanently.




"That is the day when you have to rely on your own devices which are
nearly zero. A sad day indeed! There is no one to tell you what to do.
There is no mind of foreign origin to dictate the imbecilities you are
accustomed to.




"My teacher, the nagual Julian, used to warn all his disciples," don
Juan continued, "that this was the toughest day in a sorcerer's life for
the real mind that belongs to us, the sum total of our experience after a lifetime of domination has been rendered shy, insecure, and shifty."




"Personally, I would say that the real battle of sorcerers begins at that moment. The rest is merely preparation."



- Don Juan (in the Active Side of Infinity, Mud shadows chapter)

I heard myself say, "What-what-what do you mean, by taxing the flyers' mind?"




"Discipline taxes the foreign mind no end," he replied. "So, through
their discipline, sorcerers vanquish the foreign installation."




I was overwhelmed by his statements. I believed that don Juan was either
certifiably insane or that he was telling me something so awesome that
it froze everything in me.




I noticed, however how quickly I rallied my energy to deny everything he
had said. After an instant of panic, I began to laugh, as if don Juan
had told me a joke. I even heard myself saying, "Don Juan, don Juan, you
are incorrigible!"



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Cabbageman: Hey guys, could you please tell me what the road to Ixtlan is and what
phantoms are briefly? I've read all of CC's books and haven't had a
clear view of what the road to Ixtlan is. 

Thank you!! 

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Wellcome in Reality !!! :-)))

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This is FI exactly:

FI or FE, is foreign energy in head centers (chakra).

The sixth center, located on top of the head, don Juan described as
something more than an anomaly, and refrained absolutely from having
anything to do with it. He portrayed it as possessing not a circular
vortex of energy, like the others, but a pendulum-like, back-and-forth
movement somehow reminiscent of the beating of a heart.



"Why is the energy of that center so different, don Juan?" I asked him.



"That sixth center of energy," he said, "does not quite belong to man.
You see, we human beings are under siege, so to speak. That center has
been taken over by an invader, an unseen predator. And the only way to
overcome this predator is by fortifying all the other centers."



"Is it not a bit paranoiac to feel that we are under siege, don Juan?" I asked.



"Well, maybe for you, but certainly not for me," he replied. "I see
energy, and I see that the energy over the center on the top of the head
does not fluctuate like the energy of the other centers. It has a
back-and-forth movement, quite disgusting, and quite foreign. I also see
that in a sorcerer who has been capable of vanquishing the mind, which
sorcerers call a foreign installation, the fluctuation of that center
has become exactly like the fluctuation of all the others."

[Guest]

The sorcerers of ancient Mexico were quite ill at ease with the idea of when [the predator] made its appearance on Earth. They reasoned that man must have been a complete being at one point, with stupendous insights, feats of awareness that are mythological legends nowadays. And then, everything seems to disappear, and we have now a sedated man. What I'm saying is that what we have against us is not a simple predator. It is very smart, and organized. It follows a methodical system to render us useless. Man, the magical being that he is destined to be, is no longer magical. He's an average piece of meat.
You have to start with one premise in mind: that we have the potential to reach states that we cant even begin to imagine.

Having that in mind, it comes down to heading towards that way of being. And this statement is easier said than done, to say the least, but not impossible.

Consider the indigenous people. They grow up learning how to hunt, trap, plant, gather, fish and many other things and they start learning these things from a very young age. What is has abstract value for a warrior in this is that he or she learns to be independent and just, to sustain themselves having no one but infinity behind them, from as low as 3 or 4 years of age.

As city folk, we are given everything from day one. Food, shelter, comfort and an abundence of protection. Abstractly we start beginning to learn to fight for ourselves at the age of 14, even later in some cases.

Before anything, a true warrior should have no trouble swapping places at any time. Out there and in here. We need to be fluid in this world.

[cabbageman]

Okay thanks yes I agree to everything said above.

So flyers are phantoms, correct? And the road to ixtlan is a road to nowhere?

[quantumshaman]

Personally, I wouldn't define phantoms as flyers.  More accurately, phantoms are "ordinary" human beings who are stuck in the matrix and imprisoned bytheir own belief systems.  As a result, they are constantly trying to pull the seeker back into "the real world."  They are the ones who are fond of saying, "Get with the program."   
The road to Ixtlan leads nowhere - yes.  The problem is that it is alluring because of the promises of comfort, riches, etc., which it offers.  The promises are hollow, whispered on the lips of phantoms.  If you ever saw the old movie, DARK CITY, "Ixtlan" has a lot in common with "Shell Beach." 
QS

[Guest]

cabbageman wrote:Okay thanks yes I agree to everything said above.

So flyers are phantoms, correct? And the road to ixtlan is a road to nowhere? 
There is no Ixtlan, sadly.

[Gonzo]

White Cobra wrote:cabbageman wrote:Okay thanks yes I agree to everything said above.

So flyers are phantoms, correct? And the road to ixtlan is a road to nowhere? 
There is no Ixtlan, sadly. 
True....just the road.

[Guest]

Gonzo wrote:White Cobra wrote:There is no Ixtlan, sadly. 
True....just the road.
It's a beautiful analogy.

[Guest]

wrote:Even if I was born in a city, I fight to get myself out of it and I stay out of it as much as I can until it wont call me anymore. I do this because I simply find it necessary in order to be free being. 
Be careful what you read in general and my direct advice stop reading books completly
Stop the mind and gaze like Don Juan describes, every day, until you get tears from your eyes
Avoid coffee and caffein-based drinks unless used to break routines (such as drinking them in the night in order to stay up)
Remember that you need to fight like crazy to be a sorcerer in a city and I would say it is almost impossible; Don Juan was without thought and stayed away from cities
Another person like Don Juan Matus - just like the future - does not exist and we must kill that part of us that always secretly hopes to meet one, the part that looks for someone new that will re-arrange our perception and bring our journey to a conclusion; we are responsible for absolutely everything, what there is out there, is a horde of sorcerers and average men. What else that there is and may help are passer-by warriors or people that are on their way to becoming something. These people can lend a hand, depending of how far they have overcame themselves on the path of knowledge but they need to be let go of by others and they need to let go of power by themselves. As Don Juan said, words have incredible power, they mark one in stone and they are a means to attaining power. As warriors, we have a lifetime of struggle ahead of us even to begin thinking about becoming men of knowledge or hunters of power. If a passer-by warrior stops long enough, they will become sucked in by power or clarity and stop. Whatever weakness they will have, they will overlook it in order to get fed by the many who are especting someone like Don Juan. We are solo but like Don Juan said, the price is not impossible.
Practice the gait of power or the walking version in the city and walk for miles every day
Look up your weaknesses carefully and find or create non-doings for each, see where your power is going
Dont speak from what you havent conquered and always remember that words are only a limited means to achiving something; dont get sucked in by conversations too much as it consumes a lot of power


and finally



Have less and less to defend until you have nothing at all. Dont want anything that much. Keep your passion for your path as the only passion you have with you. Strive to get rid of everything, no matter how long it takes. Dont want to be liked, dont want your words to sound clean and well-polished. Focus on action instead, measure everything by what has been done. Period. We have a great disadvantage by being born/or having lived for most of our life in the cirty, from the warriors perspective. If we had parents that made us weak by giving us everything, we must fight like crazy. In such cases, the best way is to find the other extreme and stay there for a bit, no matter how unpleasant it may be, until something changes..



Never give up. Fight yourself like crazy.To get back to the original post, though these are great words of advice.  Thanks for reminding about the Gaits of Power, will be good to get back into those when the weaher warms up here soon!