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Again I say that I would like INTELLIGENT commentary on what I have shared
If you want to make intelligent commentary on other things then
PLEASE start your own thread
If you feel you have commentary that will help me to see things more clearly
PLEASE share your knowledge as I'm all for becoming a better person
Thanks
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Nagual LoneWolf wrote:Just a note: let's let Sac's thread alone as he is not wanting interaction.Gonzo,none of your posts were removed but I ask you to use restraint bdespite the temptations.
I want INTELLIGENT interaction
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INTRODUCTION:
Yesterday I could not resist the temptation to indulge myself on fresh squeezed orange juice with all the pulp I wanted. Boy, did I ever drink a lot of orange juice with my new citrus juicer. I must have drunk about 12 oranges worth of juice with more pulp than I have ever drunk before. Deeeeeelicious!!! Later in the day, as I was preparing to go to the gym, I decided to get out my old Jack LaLaine juicer and make myself a new creation as I wanted to take this juice with me in a small stainless steel thermos and drink it right after my workout. It was comprised of:
About
50% organic carrot juice,
25% organic apple juice
Then I put this juice in my new Hamilton Beach single-serving blender and added fresh Baby Spinach leaves encompassing the last 25% of my juice creation.
I've always felt the Jack LaLaine juicer wastes too much of the Spinach so I decided to try an experiment by adding the Baby Spinach leaves to my new single-serving blender and IT WORKED!!! The Spinach leaves gave the carrot juice a healthy pulp that was incredible! I didn't want to drink too much before my workout so I got ready then rushed to the gym, as I was somewhat late for the Zumba class. About half-way there I realized that I had forgotten to take the friggin juice! Man, I was angry, but said "Oh well...." I decided that my punishment would be for me to buy fresh squeezed juice after my workout. The workout was amazingly concentrated. I only lasted about 25 minutes before I was done for the day. A Power Packed workout to say the least. I went to the juice bar and decided to get something exotic:
A small Organic Acai Berry smoothie with Organic Blueberries, Organic Frozen Acai Berry Puree, Organic Bananas, Organic Apple Juice and a bit of ice. Although it wasn't as sweet as I would have liked, it tasted FANTASTIC! As I walking around the story I began to feel my stomach reacting in such a positive way it was amazing. It was like my stomach was saying THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU over and over and over again. Not even drinking massive amounts of Aloe Vera juice has produced such results in my stomach. I was able to buy that very same Organic Acai Berry Puree along with some Organic Blueberries. I also decided to add Organic Strawberries to my new smoothie creation among other things. Well, I got home and slowly began to sip the Organic Carrot, Apple & Baby Spinach creation I had left behind. I decided NOT to refrigerate the remains as the refrigerator tends to ruin the quality of the fresh squeezed taste. The next day I drank the remaining Carrot, Apple, Spinach juice for breakfast and did things around the house. When I finished my tasks I took a shower and prepared to make an Acai Berry smoothie unlike anything I have ever heard of.
Organic Blueberries
Organic Strawberries
An Organic Plum
Some V8 Fusion juice
Some Minute Maid concentrated Berry Punch
I had to mix it in order to fit the Acai Berry Puree and drink some of the juice first to make room. WOW!!!! Even without the Acai Berry Puree it was FANTASTIC!!! Really knocked my socks off, it did! Then I added the Acai Berry Puree and a bit of crushed ice and...SOCK! BAM!! POW, BATMAN!!! It really rocked my world. What a smoothie!!! I wanted to see just how this smoothie would react with my stomach so I limited my eating anything else, took a nap, awoke and created this post. I FEEL GREAT!!!
I bought four of these Sambazon Acai Berry frozen Puree packs and each one contains four smoothie packs:
http://www.sambazon.com/shop2/p-37-pure-acai.aspx
Oh yes, I will indeed be making more of these fantastic smoothies and next time I will add some Alive Wholefood Energizer Ultra-Shake (vanilla) protein powder I just bought so the smoothie will be EVEN BETTER:
http://www.vitaminshoppe....10944&ci_sku=NW-1453
Castaneda's don Juan (if he existed) never had it so healthy good!
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PART 1
Former Castaneda groupie, Jeremy Donovan believes that Carlos Castaneda was so incredibly slick he was able to fool the anthropologist experts at UCLA with his first and second books. About four years after writing his first book Castaneda wrote Journey To Ixtlan and so fooled the anthropology experts at UCLA that they gave him a Ph.D!
I have NEVER heard of such a thing being done. It may be a first time in the history of modern anthropology that a short Peruvian man could fools the experts at a major American university, create New Your Times bestselling books in the process, then trick those anthropology experts into giving him a Ph.D. If someone else has EVER accomplished such a masterpiece of don Juan 'stalking' strategy please share the links because I have never heard of it!
Personally, I believe it was after reading the Castaneda book Tales of Power that I began to doubt everything written in those Castaneda books was literal fact. I now believe that, among other things, Castaneda was trying to wake people up to the fact that writers tend to take creative license in order to make their characters more colorful. I COULD BE WRONG, but I believe Carlos Castaneda wanted people to think of ALL BOOKS they consider non-fiction (ESPECIALLY RELIGIOUS BOOKS) and realize that, chances are, every single one of them contains fiction in one way or another. It was a risky thing to expose that he was taking creative license AFTER writing the book Journey To Ixtlan, but since he already had his Ph.D he wasn't as concerned about academic credibility anymore. He had what he wanted and the jealous academics who refused to celebrate his success would continue to badmouth him no matter what he did.
That's my current view, but I could be wrong
Jeremy Donovan seems to think that it would not be an act of genius for Carlos Castaneda to fool the anthropology experts at UCLA into giving him a Ph.D. To Jeremy I say: Show me a situation like this where a foreign anthropology student creates New York Times bestselling, supposedly non-fiction, books then fools a major university into giving him a Ph.D because I don't believe it EVER has been done in the history of modern anthropological research!
I say again that:
IF IT IS TRUE CASTANEDA FOOLED THE ANTHROPOLOGY EXPERTS AT UCLA INTO GIVING HIM A PH.D THEN CARLOS CASTANEDA WAS INDEED AN INCREDIBLE GENIUS!
Bravo Carlos!!!
(rousing applause and standing ovation)
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PART 2
Dear Jeremy,
There is no "suppose" here. Either YOU respect my beliefs equally as I respect yours or, through the process, YOU openly admit to all here that YOU are my Spiritual inferior.
I am hereby officially ready to be the better man and yield so that you can feed your narcissistically deranged, ego-maniacal need to win this debate between us
So, you either openly respect my beliefs, even as I respect yours, or I will be the better man and let you win
What's it gonna be, hotshot?
(snicker. Oh, I'm loving this!)
Amazing turn of events, no? After this I'm going to trick a condom factory
into giving me a Ph.D. Hey, everybody's doing it!
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THOUGHT FOR THE DAY
I recently stuck something in the microwave oven and time cooked it for about a minute and a half.
When I opened the door there was a little cockroach walking around the the inside of the back of the microwave oven
just as happy as he could be!
(((WHAT THE HECK!!)))
I know cockroaches are supposed to be resilient, but this is ridiculous!!!!
I mean, my burrito was steaming hot!
I guess it's true what it says in the Booble:
Cockroaches shall inherit the Earth!
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Sacateca wrote:INTRODUCTION:
Yesterday I could not resist the temptation to indulge myself on fresh squeezed orange juice with all the pulp I wanted. Boy, did I ever drink a lot of orange juice with my new citrus juicer. I must have drunk about 12 oranges worth of juice with more pulp than I have ever drunk before. Deeeeeelicious!!! Later in the day, as I was preparing to go to the gym, I decided to get out my old Jack LaLaine juicer and make myself a new creation as I wanted to take this juice with me in a small stainless steel thermos and drink it right after my workout. It was comprised of:
About
50% organic carrot juice,
25% organic apple juice
Then I put this juice in my new Hamilton Beach single-serving blender and added fresh Baby Spinach leaves encompassing the last 25% of my juice creation.
I've always felt the Jack LaLaine juicer wastes too much of the Spinach so I decided to try an experiment by adding the Baby Spinach leaves to my new single-serving blender and IT WORKED!!! The Spinach leaves gave the carrot juice a healthy pulp that was incredible! I didn't want to drink too much before my workout so I got ready then rushed to the gym, as I was somewhat late for the Zumba class. About half-way there I realized that I had forgotten to take the friggin juice! Man, I was angry, but said "Oh well...." I decided that my punishment would be for me to buy fresh squeezed juice after my workout. The workout was amazingly concentrated. I only lasted about 25 minutes before I was done for the day. A Power Packed workout to say the least. I went to the juice bar and decided to get something exotic:
A small Organic Acai Berry smoothie with Organic Blueberries, Organic Frozen Acai Berry Puree, Organic Bananas, Organic Apple Juice and a bit of ice. Although it wasn't as sweet as I would have liked, it tasted FANTASTIC! As I walking around the story I began to feel my stomach reacting in such a positive way it was amazing. It was like my stomach was saying THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU over and over and over again. Not even drinking massive amounts of Aloe Vera juice has produced such results in my stomach. I was able to buy that very same Organic Acai Berry Puree along with some Organic Blueberries. I also decided to add Organic Strawberries to my new smoothie creation among other things. Well, I got home and slowly began to sip the Organic Carrot, Apple & Baby Spinach creation I had left behind. I decided NOT to refrigerate the remains as the refrigerator tends to ruin the quality of the fresh squeezed taste. The next day I drank the remaining Carrot, Apple, Spinach juice for breakfast and did things around the house. When I finished my tasks I took a shower and prepared to make an Acai Berry smoothie unlike anything I have ever heard of.
Organic Blueberries
Organic Strawberries
An Organic Plum
Some V8 Fusion juice
Some Minute Maid concentrated Berry Punch
I had to mix it in order to fit the Acai Berry Puree and drink some of the juice first to make room. WOW!!!! Even without the Acai Berry Puree it was FANTASTIC!!! Really knocked my socks off, it did! Then I added the Acai Berry Puree and a bit of crushed ice and...SOCK! BAM!! POW, BATMAN!!! It really rocked my world. What a smoothie!!! I wanted to see just how this smoothie would react with my stomach so I limited my eating anything else, took a nap, awoke and created this post. I FEEL GREAT!!!
I bought four of these Sambazon Acai Berry frozen Puree packs and each one contains four smoothie packs:
http://www.sambazon.com/shop2/p-37-pure-acai.aspx
Oh yes, I will indeed be making more of these fantastic smoothies and next time I will add some Alive Wholefood Energizer Ultra-Shake (vanilla) protein powder I just bought so the smoothie will be EVEN BETTER:
http://www.vitaminshoppe....10944&ci_sku=NW-1453
Sounds marvelous. One of my favorites at Jamba Juice is a carrot/orange juice with 60% carrot and 40% orange. You should check out both the Breveille Juicers ( http://www.brevilleusa.com/juicing.html ) as you can put whole apples in and is much easier to clean and also the Montel Williams (I know, I know) Blender ( http://www.myhealthmaster.com/ ) you can even make carrot soup in it and with teh blender you don't waste anything.
You might consider trying blending some walnuts that you soaked overnight with the spinach leaves...fantastic! You'll feel a significant health boost if you can include at least 10 fruits and veggies, not sure why 10, but that seems to be the magic number.
A movie you might want to consider is Fat Sick & Nearly Dead ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv3vEXy_EwU ) it's very inspiring.
Juice on!
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Tom,
It's amazing all the people in this forum who obviously deserve the ability to create as many posts as they like every day. What is your criteria for giving them that freedom? Wisdom? Is there more wisdom in a Coco-nuts super-link post than in all the posts I have created since I've returned? Apparently so. Those who are wise deserve the freedom to create as many posts as they like in this forum. The idiots like me must be controlled and only allowed one-post a day, right?
Wise people, like you, know that Jeremy Donovan is not qualified to judge whether or not ANYONE deserves a Ph.D. You admitted that. However, you still feel that they would give Castaneda a Ph.D if they were certain he lied and made the whole thing up. How exactly do you justify such a conclusion because, pardon me, but that seems like a very ignorant stance to take. It's probably just me. Straighten me out here, Tom. Throw me a bone
Jeremy,
You set yourself up as wiser and greater than all the anthropology experts at UCLA when Carlos Castaneda submitted his dissertation that became the book: Journey To Ixtlan. You seem to think YOU know better than all of them. You don't have enough official qualifications in such matters to fill a teacup, but YOU are certain that YOU know better. My how "SPECIAL" you are, Jeremy. What was it that Corey Donovan used to say about people who think they are "special" with no worthwhile qualifications whatsoever? What was it? Oh yes, NARCISSISTIC. That was Corey Donovan's favorite word. Anyone who disagreed with him could usually be branded as "narcissistic" sooner or later. Without any qualifications, you seem to think you are wiser and more intelligent than ALL the anthropology experts who were judging Castaneda's works and then gave him a Ph.D. YOU know better than ALL OF THEM. My, my, how "SPECIAL' you are Jeremy.
And if that wasn't bad enough, Jeremy has all the suckers tricked! They all believe him! TB Jeremy Donovan followers blindly trust him because Jeremy was there, right? Write a book about your experiences with Carlos Castaneda, Jeremy. It should become a New York Times bestseller outdoing Carlos' books by a long-shot. On the edge of our seats waiting, we are. Ha!
Then we have Guy Gardner who was caught in a lie about Castaneda "stalking". Just a perversion of Taoism, is it? You couldn't prove your stance to save your miserable life, liar. But, of course, Jeremy Donovan TBD never has NEVER lied about Carlos Castaneda. Why, just ask anyone who was there. Ask them, why don't you, folks? Go ahead! What are you waiting for? ASK THEM!!!!!
You see, since you CAN'T ask ANYONE and verify ANYTHING Jeremy is feeding you Mr Donovan feels completely safe feeding you any lie he wants to about Carlos Castaneda. The most blatant lie is that he is more qualified than ALL the anthropology experts at UCLA to judge who deserves a Ph.D and who doesn't. Yup, and all you suckers just blindly believe him.
So, I'm willing to allow you your beliefs, Jeremy. Heck, if you want to believe in the tooth fairy I'll allow you that as well. I respect your belief in the tooth fairly even though I don't share that belief. Do you respect my beliefs equally? Or do I yield the argument in order to mercifully allow your narcissistic-ally, bloated ego the victory it so desperately craves. What's is gonna be, Jeremy?
(snicker)
It's so funny. What you are seeing is me putting Tom, Jeremy Donovan and Guy Gardner into psychological checkmate. I could not have asked for a better opportunity when Guy blatantly lied about don Juan's "stalking" being a perversion of Taoism. It's such a blatant lie. Just like the lie that I have been banned from every forum I have ever posted in and cannot post in any other forum besides this one. That was the first big lie Guy got caught in. This lie about don Juan "stalking" being a perversion of Taoism is going to haunt you, Guy! It was a really dumb move on your part and it came naturally, right Guy?
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Since I've cut back on my insults and am doing my best to give everyone the right to believe whatever they like I guess I earned the right to at least a one extra post response a day.
You will notice how Jeremy is doing his best to ignore this post. Here, Jeremy, I'm willing to give your views the exact same respect I give my own, but first I want to make it clear to YOU and everyone else here just what your beliefs are in this matter. YOU, Jeremy, see yourself as wiser and more qualified than the anthropology experts at UCLA to determine who does and who does not deserve a Ph.D. You have NO QUALIFICATIONS WHATSOEVER in anthropology and yet you see yourself as "SPECIAL" enough to do your best to make everyone believe that YOU know better. You've got these suckers here tricked into believe that since YOU were 'SUPPOSEDLY' there we should all trust everything you say about Castaneda as 'Gospel Truth' because YOU have NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER lied about Carlos Castaneda in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM. Sorry, Jeremy, but I see no reason to make an exception and take YOU at your word. You have not earned the right for me to trust you in this manner.
I say the wise will treat SUPPOSEDLY non-fiction books as BASED ON A TRUE STORY and containing LES FICTION than openly fiction books. The UNWISE will treat SUPPOSEDLY non-fiction books as 'Infallible Inerrant Gospel Truth' and be more than willing to blow themselves up in order to prove their faith in this "Infallible Inerrant" premise.
Are we in agreement here, Jeremy. Or are you still going to do your best to convince all the suckers that YOU know better than UCLA who actually deserves a Ph.D and who does not?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
BTW: Oh Jeremy. I almost forgot. What do you think of Guy Gardner's statement that don Juan 'stalking' is just a perversion of Taoism. I am really interested in your view on this. I've studied Taoism enough to see this as a lie. What do YOU have to say about this O Wiser Than UCLA?
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SSC WROTE:
"The obstacle to reach an agreement between all parties is that Castaneda’s writings are open to a number of subjective interpretations."
MY RESPONSE:
Well, you see, the thing with the SR Legacy Forum is that they want only their OFFICIAL INTERPRETATION of these matter to be accepted on blind faith. Every other interpretation has been ridiculed throughout the years. That's just the way it's always been around here. Accept Corey, Jeremy Donovan and Gregs views a THE ONLY TRUTH because THEY were there and KNOW more than the experts at UCLA what was actually going on. Never mind that they were convinced Castaneda was legitimate while he was alive. Never-mind that! NOW then are certain of the truth...with no official qualifications whatsoever. My oh my, how "SPECIAL" they are!
The way I see it is that whether or not Castaneda's don Juan actually existed is of paramount importance to those who care NOTHING about truly bettering their lives. The rest use whatever philosophy they may find to better their lives and are not picky where they may find this truth. If you are wise and something don Juan teaches rings true and useful for you then USE IT. If something don Juan teaches does not serve your particular needs then DON'T USE IT! To argue back and forth that the only thing that really matters is whether or not don Juan, or Krishna, or Jesus, or ANYBODY actually existed is for fools who care nothing about bettering their lives. This I CURRENTLY see as the truth.
I'm willing to change my CURRENT views. ARE YOU? If not then you are my official Spiritual Inferior, period! The truly Spiritual Advanced are ALWAYS ready to improve upon whatever they currently believe. That is one surefire way to spot them.
NOTE:
It's an amazing thing that I can take a post of mine, trim out the insults and replace the insults with a more wholesome way of expressing myself and I make the same points EXCEPT that those points carry more power. The blatant, lowlife insults tend to cancel out and ruin the quality of my posts. Fancy that. It took me a long time to realize this. I just realized it in the last week. Thick-headed I can sometimes be. How about you?
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AQUAMAN WROTE:
"The books sounded so factually, to my uncritical, nondescrimminating, simple mind, that I believed they were mostly factual, with just the miracles as exaggerations he added later."
MY RESPONSE:
I've read that American Founding Father Thomas Jefferson took the trouble to have a Bible made. He had ALL the miracles taken out and just kept the teachings. If Mr Jefferson had read just this sentence of what you wrote he would assume you were talking about the Bible and he would wholeheartedly agree!
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Thanks Tom!
As far as I can see, there is only one way to properly resolve this situation and that is for me to do my best to make ONE POINT per post rather than 17 points in a much too long post. In such a long post the points tend to get lost in the rhetoric.
Dear Jeremy,
I'll do my best to make this as simple as I can for you:
MY VIEW:
My view is that SUPPOSEDLY non-fiction books are, at best, based on true stories. They ALL contain some fiction whether we want to believe it or not so there is no reason to blow oneself up over the matter for it is fact, as far as I can see.. Until I can verify all that is being stated is "Gospel Truth" I will treat ALL BOOKS as fiction no matter what anyone says. If I eventually find out the world is indeed flat I will say something like, "If figures". Then I'll casually readjust my beliefs and go on with my life no less for the wear.
Can you respect my view because my view automatically resolves the Castaneda Debate. It also resolves the religious debate, and the political debate, and any other SUPPOSEDLY true debate put forth by the lying human race.
YOUR VIEW:
YOUR view is you expect people to blindly believe that YOU know better than the anthropology experts at UCLA and YOU KNOW FOR A FACT that Carlos Castaneda did not deserve the Ph. D given to him. YOU have no official qualifications WHATSOEVER to make yourself the superior of the experts at UCLA, but you are ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN Carlos Castaneda was a liar, made the whole thing up and tricked the experts at UCLA. This is what you have been pushing for years in a 'nut shell' and it is indeed a very 'nut' shell.
I am willing to openly respect your view although I say it is the view of a narcissistic-ally deranged whacko who desperately needs some sort of psychiatric counseling, along with your blind followers.
CONCLUSION:
I don't expect ANYONE here to believe anything I may write and I don't believe anything of what you write except for what I can personally verify as true, period. I don't care how many Bibles you are willing to swear upon. Unless I personally verify it I treat it as fiction. That does not mean what you may share is not useful. It just means that I'm always ready to find I've been tricked again...by my senses.
So, Jeremy, I can respect YOUR view even though I feel it is ridiculous. Can you respect mine? If so then this matter is resolved between us and what remains is for you to comment on Guy Gardner saying that don Juan "stalking" was a perversion of Taoist beliefs. What do you think of Guy's view? I think it's ridiculous, but I could be wrong. How about you, Jeremy? Could YOU be wrong? If you agree with Guy be ready to back up your belief with quotes from the Tao.
Thanks
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Hey, if ANY OF YOU have intelligent commentary to make on what I have shared please feel free to make your intelligent comments. My gripe has been people trying to derail the threat with post that have nothing to do with what I have shared.
Thanks
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R. GORDON WASSON:
"In 1957, the Wassons' first book, which had begun as a cookbook by TW and the Wassons' Russian cook, Florence James, was published: Mushrooms Russia and History. Concurrently, a lengthy illustrated article by RGW in Life Magazine, May 13, 1957, on the Mexican mushroom veladas (sessions) with Maria Sabina gave rise to large numbers of individuals searching the wooded mountain regions of Mexico to discover for themselves the mushrooms with visionary powers. After TW's death in 1958, RGW continued to publish their Mexican mycological investigations: Maria Sabina and Her Mazatec Mushroom Velada (1974), accompanied by four long-playing records and the words of the all-night chants printed in Mazatec, Spanish, and English; and The Wondrous Mushroom: Mycolatry in Mesoamerica (1980). Additionally, RGW was second author on Roger Heim's study of Psilocybe: Les Champignons Hallucinogenes du Mexique (1958) and Nouvelles Investigations sur les Champignons Hallucinogenes (1967). Two species of Psilocybe were named in honor of RGW and TW: Psilocybe Wassonii Heim and Psilocybe Wassonorum Guzman. RGW conducted yearly field trips to Mexico until 1962."
http://www.huh.harvard.ed...braries/wasson/BIOG.html
MY COMMENT:
If any of you ever do any extensive study into hallucinogenic mushrooms the name R. Gordon Wasson will most certainly come up. If anyone knew about the hallucinogenic mushrooms of Mexico it was this man. Well, I did some study on Carlos Castaneda and I found...
QUOTE:
"Despite the widespread popularity of his works, some critics questioned the validity of Castaneda's books as early as 1969. In a series of articles, international banker and amateur mycologist R. Gordon Wasson, who had originally praised Castaneda's work, questioned the accuracies of Castaneda's botanical claims"
FROM THE SAME ARTICLE:
"Anthropologists specializing in Yaqui Indian culture (William Curry Holden, Jane Holden Kelley and Edward H. Spicer), who originally supported Castaneda's account as true, had questioned the accuracies of Castaneda's work "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Castaneda
MY COMMENT:
So according to my studies R. Gordon Wasson was making field trips to Mexico until 1962 and he had ORIGINALLY praised Castaneda's work. If any man knew what it was actually like to take field trips to Mexico it was R. Gordon Wasson. If Castaneda was faking field trips to Mexico R. Gordon Wasson would indeed know from the Castaneda narratives that Carlos had not actually been to Mexico. So, apparently, R. Gordon Wasson was satisfied that Carlos Castaneda was indeed making field trips to Mexico. Apparently, Mr Wasson was NOT satisfied by Castaneda's claims that the "Little Smoke" of don Juan was made from psilocybin mushrooms.
The point being that the anthropology experts at UCLA had at least some reason to doubt Castaneda's veracity from his very first book. Mr Wasson was a well respected man, in academic circles, when it came to hallucinogenic mushrooms; or so I've been led to believe.
MY MAIN POINT:
I say any truly sane person should agree with me here: If Carlos Castaneda was able, in spite of the evidence against him, to fool the experts at UCLA into giving him a Ph. D, and make the cover of Time Magazine as well we are talking about TRUE GENIUS in the person of Carlos Castaneda. If he was a fraud and made the character don Juan up Carlos Castaneda was an incredible genius alright; creating a modern mythology that jump-started an entire spiritual movement!
So, if there actually was a don Juan that's nice, but not anywhere near as amazing as if Carlos Castaneda made the whole thing up, created a string of best-selling books, made the cover of Time Magazine and tricked the experts at UCLA into giving him a Ph. D.
I say only a crazy person will not agree with me here. This is down to Earth logic, as far as I am concerned. HOWEVER, I am more than willing to change my view if you can convince me otherwise. This is the difference between myself and Jeremy Donovan TBD. He will NEVER change his views. He's been saying the same things for years and will most probably continue to do so no matter what ANYONE shares in this forum. Once a narcissistic-ally deranged person makes up his mind about something there is no changing it!
Although, I could be wrong
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Dear Jeremy,
I know you've been saying the same things for years because you have said so and I have personally verified it from empirical experience. What you don't seem to understand is what you are implying.
If a Peruvian who becomes an anthropology student at UCLA created the character of don Juan, faked field trips to Mexico, wrote books that not only impressed the experts at UCLA, but became New York Times bestsellers; he made the cover of Time Magazine then earned a Ph. D from UCLA in spite of his detractors then...
CARLOS CASTANEDA WAS AN INCREDIBLE LITERARY GENIUS!
He should be in the Guinness Book of World Records for I do not believe that ANY foreign anthropology student at a major American university has EVER accomplished such a feat! It's too incredible to be true that he was able to pull it off without being exposed as a fraud BEFORE he was awarded a Ph. D.
Jeremy, you just can't seem to see what you are implying. However, I will respect your beliefs if you will respect mine that your stance in this matter is that of a narcissistic-ally deranged person who is in need of some sort of psychiatric counseling if you cannot see the logic of my view of YOUR view. You have NO QUALIFICATIONS WHATSOEVER to decide who does or who does not deserve a Ph. D in ANY endeavor. Am I correct?
Let me make it very simple for you:
If there actually was a don Juan that's nice. If Castaneda made the whole thing up and tricked UCLA into giving him a Ph. D that's AMAZING BEYOND BELIEF!!!
Yes, we should be much more amazed by Carlos Castaneda if he made the whole thing up. Indeed we should!
So, Jeremy, show me how I am incorrect in my CURRENT views and, unlike you, I will change my views of this matter.
Good luck! You're gonna need it
PS: Please verify Guy Gardner's stance that don Juan "stalking" is a perversion of Taoist teachings. Thanks
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Sacateca wrote:Hey, if ANY OF YOU have intelligent commentary to make on what I have shared please feel free to make your intelligent comments. My gripe has been people trying to derail the threat with post that have nothing to do with what I have shared.
Thanks
I have tried. They must not have been intellegent enough for you.
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Hey, don't give up! Quote what you wrote and let's give it another 'go', okay? I'll be the first to admit that this thing with the SR forum has been my main impetus lately. I share the posts I create over here because they directly address the stance of the Castaneda skeptics. I feel I am narrowing this matter down to a very hot point that Jeremy Donovan will not be able to talk his way out of. That's fun for me.
MY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE SR FORUM:
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TO AQUAMAN:
Good
points you have made. Who is to say what exactly is truly authentic
about ANY wild claims in supposedly non-fiction books like the Bible,
the Koran, the Bhagavad-Gita or the works of Carlos Castaneda. The wise
use what is useful. The unwise blow themselves up in defense of their
supposedly 'infallible and inerrant' books.
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COMMENT ON ENERGY LOVER'S POST BELOW ME:
ENERGYLOVER WROTE:
"He lied saca, he got a PhD, big deal? "
MY COMMENT:
Then he went to the store, bought a frozen burrito and some milk, and paper towels and big deal, right?
People
like energylover and Jeremy Donovan would have us all believe that what
Castaneda accomplished, if he faked it, was easy and anyone could do
it. REALITY tells a different story. Reality says that if Castaneda
faked the whole thing, created New York Times bestsellers, made the
cover of Time Magazine and tricked UCLA into giving him a Ph. D that
would make Carlos Castaneda one of the greatest modern geniuses of the
UCLA anthropology age! I say those who feel I am incorrect about this
are indeed insane, but...I could be wrong. Prove me wrong, folks. Do the
same things yourselves so that we can all know just how easy it was to
accomplish! I don't remember DeMille's critical book about Castaneda on
the New York Times bestseller's list, do you?
NOTE: Of course,
none of you care how tempted I was to openly insult energylover. Of
course you don't care how much effort it takes for me to restrain
myself, right? Of course you don't care!
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COMMENT ON THE QUALITIES OF LOSERS:
You
can easily spot losers because they tend to harp on the perceived bad
while doing their best to ignore the good. Considering this, the
Castaneda Legacy forum has a history of being populated by mostly
losers. All they care about is the perceived bad about Carlos Castaneda.
They make implications of 'fraud' without realizing just what they are
implying. It took ME coming back here to point those implications out
and do they care? No, not at all. They will hold to the same defective
views no matter what evidence to the contrary is presented. Yes, these
are the qualities of losers.
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ADDRESSING THE SECOND AQUAMAN POST BELOW:
Here's
the thing: If what Castaneda's don Juan shared doesn't sound like
anything they have heard before the skeptics say Castaneda made it up.
If it sounds like a similar philosophy held by another culture the
skeptics say Castaneda stole it. There is no winning with the Castaneda
skeptics. What do they care if Victor Sanchez lived among the
descendants of the Toltecs and verified that don Juan's knowledge is
indeed of ancient Toltec descent? THE SKEPTICS DON'T CARE! What do the
skeptics care if Mr Ruiz's family expected him to uphold their ancient
Toltec traditions and that don Migual Ruiz's teachings sound very
similar to the lessons of don Juan. THE SKEPTIC DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT
EITHER! The blind skeptics are losers who refuse to realize all that
matters is what is useful towards the betterment of personal lives.
Whatever does not work for you refuse to apply it in your lives. Whether
it be in the Bible, the Koran, Castaneda's book or anywhere else,
period!
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TO TOM:
I'm
curious. Do you still blindly believe that the experts at UCLA would
have given Castaneda a Ph. D if they felt he lied and made the whole
thing up? You've made the obvious truth clear in that we are in
agreement: Jeremy Donovan is NOT QUALIFIED to determine who deserves and
who does not deserve a Ph. D in ANY FIELD. However, you stated that
UCLA would have given Castaneda a Ph. D even if they were not certain
whether or not don Juan was a real personage. I'm curious if you still
hold to this defective belief or have you changed your stance on this
issue?
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It is QUITE OBVIOUS that the teachings of Don Juan have made Sacateca a much better human being than he would have been otherwise.
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"Otherwise" I would have been like...YOU!
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Fortunately, I follow the secret teachings of Don Tancredo, who teaches that it's not good to say anything bad about anybody -- particularly on the Internet.
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TO JEREMY DONOVAN TBD,
Let's make it very simple:
MY VIEW:
If Carlos Castaneda created don Juan, created a string of New York Times bestseller books, made the cover of Time Magazine and tricked the anthropology experts at UCLA into giving him a Ph. D that is amazing! It is the work of a super-genius!! If don Juan actually existed that's nice, but nowhere near as amazing as if Castaneda made the whole thing up, period. I say all who are wise will agree with me. That is my view.
YOUR VIEW:
Is that there is nothing amazing it about the situation whatsoever. Anyone could have made don Juan up and accomplished the same things Castaneda did. He was a fraud and YOU KNOW who deserves a Ph. D in anthropology and who does not and YOU KNOW Castaneda did not deserve a Ph. D even though you have NO QUALIFICATIONS WHATSOEVER to make such an assessment.
I can respect your view, although I feel it is the view of a narcissistic-ally deranged person in desperate need of psychiatric treatments. Hey, I feel the same about all those who blindly believe in organized religions and that encompasses MILLIONS of humans. You are pretty much just like them.
I can respect their views just as I can respect yours. If you are my spiritual equal you will respect my views even though you may not agree with them. So, can we respect each others' views and opinions and call a truce to this matter between us? Once we do it will be over and I will stop hounding you about this matter. Okay?
ALTHOUGH: I say Guy Gardner couldn't support his view that don Juan "stalking" was a rip off and perversion of Taoist beliefs to save his pathetic life. What do you have to say about this? Let's all see those quotes from the Tao that support Guy's views in this matter. Thanks!
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benfranq wrote:Fortunately, I follow the secret teachings of Don Tancredo, who teaches that it's not good to say anything bad about anybody -- particularly on the Internet.
I could have sworn you were following the teachings of don Assho and his compadres. Yes, there is a real "Assho" flavoring to your wizdumb
Hey, this matter between myself and Jeremy Donovan also concerns you because YOU have been famous for your certainty that Carlos Castaneda was a fraud. Obviously YOU also feel you are more qualified to determine who deserves a Ph. D and who does not with no official qualifications whatsoever!
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The Teachings of don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge - 1968 by Carlos Castaneda Intro
Acknowledgements
"I wish to express profound gratitude to Professor Clement Meighan, who started and set the course of my anthropological fieldwork; to Professor Harold Garfinkel, who gave me the model and the spirit of exhaustive inquiry; to Professor Robert Edgerton, who criticized my work from its beginning; to Professors William Bright and Pedro Carrasco for their criticisms and encouragement; and to Professor Lawrence Watson for his invaluable help in the clarification of my analysis. Finally, I am grateful to Mrs Grace Stimson and Mr F. A. Guilford for their assistance in preparing the manuscript."
- Carlos Castaneda
MY COMMENT:
So Jeremy. All these other people must have been in on the scam as well right, O Great One? Thou knowest all!
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Para mi solo recorrer
los caminos que tienen corazon,
cualquier camino que tenga corazon.
Por ahi yo recorro,
y la unica prueba que vale es
atravesar todo su largo.
Y por ahi yo recorro mirando,
mirando, sin aliento.
* * *
(For me there is only the travelling
on paths that have heart,
on any path that may have heart.
There I travel,
and the only worth-while challenge is
to traverse its full length.
And there I travel looking,
looking, breathlessly.)
- Don Juan Matus
MY COMMENT:
If Carlos Castaneda made just THIS up, on his own, he was quite the literary master, don't you all agree? I mean it's quite beautiful, right?
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AMAZON.COM REVIEWS:
http://www.amazon.com/Teachings-Don-Jua ... ewpoints=1
MY COMMENT:
The book got more fantastic reviews than lame ones. I studied into the lame reviews and, from what I read, most of them give the book a bad review because they feel it is a hoax and a con job. I can't help but wonder if they feel the teachings of Jesus or Krishna or the Buddha are hoaxes and con jobs as well.
Personally, if I find something useful then whatever philosophy proves itself useful to me in my life is true enough and I will adopt it whether it is encased in a fictional story or not. The good and wonderful teachings of ANYONE are still good and wonderful even if the story encasing the wise sayings is eventually proven to be fiction.
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THE WAYS OF WINNERS AND LOSERS
Those who care nothing about bettering their lives always seem to be chiefly concerned with whether or not don Juan actually existed. Winners adopt the best they can find to better their lives. Losers always look for the perceived bad to criticize so that they can have a cheap excuse for not bettering their lives. Such are the general ways of winners and losers.
Winners are always reaching for the most wonderful in life
Losers are always negatively criticizing and using this as an excuse for being failures. "It's all his, hers or THEIR fault" This is the age old rallying cry of the losers.
'I've been hurt and it's all Castaneda's fault'. Such is the cry of the suckers who took Carlos Castaneda as their guru
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JUXTAPOSING VIEWPOINTS
MY VIEW:
If Carlos Castaneda created don Juan, created a string of New York Times bestseller books, made the cover of Time Magazine and tricked the anthropology experts at UCLA into giving him a Ph. D that is amazing! It is the work of a super-genius!! If don Juan actually existed that's nice, but nowhere near as amazing as if Castaneda made the whole thing up, period. I say all who are wise will agree with me. That is my view.
JEREMY DONOVAN TBD's VIEW:
Is that there is nothing amazing about the situation whatsoever. Anyone could have made don Juan up and accomplished the same things Castaneda did. He was a fraud and Jeremy KNOWS who deserves a Ph. D in anthropology and who does not and JEREMY KNOWS Castaneda did not deserve a Ph. D even though Jeremy has NO QUALIFICATIONS WHATSOEVER to make such an assessment.
*I'll leave it for you to decided who's view is the narcissistic-ally saner one
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POLITICAL COMMENTARY:
I usually don't make political commentary, and I've been commanded by Mother Nature not to vote because I refuse to be held AT ALL responsible for what lying politicians may do...
HOWEVER
As I studied into the Great Depression of the 1930s I wondered where all the money Americans lost had gone. I tried and tried to find this out and could not. All I could get is rhetoric that 'the bubble burst'. What exactly the "bubble" was is still a mystery to me. I finally had to come to my own conclusions by rationalizing things out.
The stock market crash that brought about The Great Depression in America
I am now firmly convinced that the money Americans lost did not 'vanish into thin air'. So, where did it go? Well, who was super-rich when most Americans were out of work. Find that out and you will find out where all that money went, period. Don't let anyone trick you into thinking the money just evaporated into thin air. FDR knew where that money went, but was wise enough not to openly point it out. From my studies, FDR created all kinds of American improvement programs and put people back to work. How did he get the money to fund the programs? BY TAXING THE RICH!! Yes indeed, that is how FDR funded all the programs that put people back to work and got American back on financial track. FDR (((FORCED))) the rich to put the money back they had 'sucked' away from the American people and, although it took a lot of work and there were many setbacks, soon FDR was able to get Americans to have faith in their country again.
It is my view that the core of what caused The Great Depression is that Americans had lost faith in their country and that is a very, very dangerous thing to have happen! SUPPOSEDLY, during the forming of America brave soldiers who fought to help George Washington defeat the British were paid with printed money that was called: Greenbacks. Americans, in general, had lost faith in the value of greenback currency so when the soldiers came home and tried to use greenback currency to pay for anything people refused to take the money. From what I remember, the soldiers revolted and George Washington's army had to kill many of them to stop the uprising.
I no longer blindly believe in anything I cannot personally verify, but I can indeed verify that if you lose faith in something your ability to be effective using that something evaporates and you become ineffective.
FDR forced the rich to pay for putting Americans back to work and the rich hated him for it. Now, imagine what it would have been like if FDR was a black man
(((( FORGET ABOUT IT!!! ))))
If FDR was a black man...well...they most probably would have had him assassinated alright!
The racist white republicans are doing all within their power to make president Obama ineffective because, I believe, the KKK simply cannot tolerate a black man fixing what the white Bush administration ruined in the 8 years of their administration. Now the white republicans are determined to take back the office of the presidency and THEY DON'T CARE how much America is hurt by continually trying to make president Obama ineffective.
I must admit, I have to hand it to Obama for keeping his cool. The guy has moxie alright. Still, I must admit that to want to be the first black American president is akin to saying that you want to be assassinated by the Klu Klux Klan. If every single KKK member is also a member of The Tea Party I will not be too surprised AT ALL! What, you think loyal members of The Tea Party voted for Obama??? Get a clue, people!
In general, I say ungrateful **** Americans DON'T DESERVE a great president. What they deserve is to lose their country to a vast, very hungry UFO alien armada. Yes, in all honesty, that is what I feel most Americans and humans deserve! I say, if the Earth is to survive, the humans who are not needed to keep the Earth running smoothly MUST BE ELIMINATED WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE!!! The sooner the better. Hey, aliens, you can start with me! It's a great day to die. Did you know that?
Okay, I got that off my chest
Caring for idiots who refuse to better themselves is a waste of precious personal energies. To hell with the doomed!
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Sacateca wrote:benfranq wrote:Fortunately, I follow the secret teachings of Don Tancredo, who teaches that it's not good to say anything bad about anybody -- particularly on the Internet.
I could have sworn you were following the teachings of don Assho and his compadres. Yes, there is a real "Assho" flavoring to your wizdumb
Hey, this matter between myself and Jeremy Donovan also concerns you because YOU have been famous for your certainty that Carlos Castaneda was a fraud. Obviously YOU also feel you are more qualified to determine who deserves a Ph. D and who does not with no official qualifications whatsoever!___________________________________
Don Tancredo is no less real than Don Juan. He is much more selective, however, as far as who he entrusts with his dangerous secrets. By comparison, Don Juan is a blabbermouth who doesn't care about who might get hurt by the misapplication of his teachings. That's why Don Tancredo has revealed his wisdom only to a very carefully selected, elite group of disciples.
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If you are the final product of his teachings I'd have to say the guy is an ****
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Sacateca wrote:If you are the final product of his teachings I'd have to say the guy is an ****
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AQUAMAN WROTE:
"If you would read Richard De Mille, you will notice these anthro professors were embarassed and became evasive after the truth came out."
MY RESPONSE:
It never ceases to amaze me how the ignorant can go from blindly believing Carlos Castaneda to blindly believing this Demille character. Have YOU personally verified everything Demille was pushing? Did Demille's book make the New York Times bestseller list? Do you really believe those professors who helped Carlos Castaneda with his book NEVER saw ANY of Castaneda's field notes? Get a clue, dude! Demille is a bring down and I venture that NOTHING Demille has written about Carlos Castaneda will EVER be remembered as the lessons of don Juan will. The raving initial reviews of Castaneda's books by Time Magazine and others had to do with the lessons of don Juan and Castaneda's magical writing style that transported us to magical desert vistas where we learned that the world is an unfathomable mystery instead of just a string of imposed mundane chores that MUST be done. The lessons of don Juan can stand on their own. If Castaneda created don Juan he was, quite simply, a literary genius! If he was able to use his created works to trick the EXPERTS at UCLA into giving him a Ph. D then Carlos Castaneda should indeed be in the Guinness Book of World Records because I have NEVER heard of an anthropology student, from another country, pulling off such a stunt and tricking the experts of a major American university so thoroughly!
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THE ASSEMBLAGE POINT:
Don Juan taught that there is a point of awareness that assembles the world we personally perceive. I've learned from experience that something mysterious 'within' us does indeed assemble our world view and that world view is predicated by our moods. On a day when I feel pessimistic and hopeless I assemble a very different world than on the days when I feel strong and filled with joyous excitement to be alive. Those worlds may look the same, but they are COMPLETELY different.
I've learned how to 'see' through my direct associations with Mother Nature and I've learned that there are many different ways to 'see'. There is a type of photography in which the camera can photograph the basic types of energy spheres that don Juan spoke about and don Juan was speaking about 'seeing' people in such a manner LONG BEFORE kirlian photography became commonly known.
KIRLIAN PHOTOGRAPHY AURA IMAGES:
http://www.google.com/sea...amp;biw=1600&bih=769
Castaneda's don Juan was talking about 'the lines of the world' LONG BEFORE I ever heard of "ley lines"
ABOUT LEY LINES:
http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/leylines.htm
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Since I am chiefly concerned with bettering my life and I treat all books as fiction while assuming that supposedly non-fiction books have LESS FICTON than complete fiction books it doesn't matter to me AT ALL whether or not Castaneda's don Juan actually existed. I say this only matters to those who have no interest in bettering their miserable lives. To those who have no interesting in bettering their miserable lives their chief concern is to negatively criticize and crush people's hope and sense of wide-eyed wonder.
Demille should have done research and written a book about there not actually being a Jesus and how the New Testament writers were hoaxers. Oh, he could have done it! I've read there is quite a bit of evidence out there that Jesus never actually existed. Why didn't he? I mean, the guy was obviously a miserable person who wanted to make others equally miserable with his works. Demille wanted to strip the magic out of life that don Juan gave to the world we live in. Demille should have written a book claiming that the New Testament Biblical writers were a bunch of hoaxers and that Jesus never actually existed!
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Through my dealings with Mother Nature I have personally verified much, if not most, of what Castaneda's don Juan taught. The world of Nature is indeed Sentient, Alive & Magical if it chooses to be and a warrior can 'see' the magical reality of Mother Nature. My chief goal is to consistently assemble a world in which I can entertain, pacify and help to heal the Spirit of Mother Earth. I have faith that I can continue to assemble a world where this inconceivable premise is indeed a dependable fact. I have 'seen' tremendous success through my efforts and I am excited by the fact that I will assemble even more powerful magical perceptions of Nature as my life unfolds.
Castaneda's don Juan has helped to inspire the manifestation of my dream. People like Demille inspire NO GREAT THING!! Those who blindly believe Demille are even WORSE than those who blindly believed Castaneda.
If you are wise you will no longer blindly believe ANYTHING ANYONE says or presents unless YOU PERSONALLY verify it to be true. If you refuse to do this you deserve whatever hell may come upon you as a result.
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ON VICTOR SANCHEZ
"But who is Victor Sanchez? According to the book jacket, he:
has lived for fifteen years with indigenous peoples of Mexico who, hidden in the mountains, have kept alive the spiritual path of the ancient Toltecs. His work among them has not been as an academic investigator, but instead as a participant dedicated to the preservation and continuation of their tradition. He gives workshops worldwide on the techniques described in this book.
Book jackets may be notoriously inaccurate and prone to exaggeration, but based on the quality and detail of the exercises which form the core of this book, it seems likely that Sanchez is the genuine article. Not, necessarily, that Sanchez is a shaman who can leap into alternate universes with a single bound and change himself into a crow at will, but rather, that Sanchez understands the nature of magic and magical transformation, that he has understood and learned how to teach others how to focus and change their modes of attention and consciousness, and that he has an excellent grasp on the mysterious and what it takes to full bodily encounter it as a "warrior."
"Warrior," of course, is a term of art in the "donjuanist" worldview, and the book follows the precepts outlined in Castaneda's eight books (to date) quite closely. As for the issue of whether don Juan truly existed, Sanchez writes that:
Personally, I am not particularly interested if the ideas came from don Juan or from Castaneda. The fact is they exist and - most important - they work. Putting these teachings into practice reveals that in each one of us there lies hidden another awareness - the awareness of the other self - which opens unlimited possibilities of perception and experience. This is what is really significant. Therefore, throughout the ensuing pages, I will refer to Carlos Castaneda and to don Juan interchangeably as the creators or bearers of a complex system of knowledge. That is how they present themselves to us: together, in the same work, the binomial Castaneda/don Juan inviting us to penetrate into their mysterious world. Thus, I abstain from commenting on something that is totally out of my reach - namely, to affirm or deny the existence of someone whom I've never seen, a matter that seems irrelevant."
http://www.enlightenment....ia/bookrevs/sanchez.html
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JUXTAPOSING VIEWPOINTS
MY VIEW:
If Carlos Castaneda created don Juan, created a string of New York Times bestseller books, made the cover of Time Magazine and tricked the anthropology experts at UCLA into giving him a Ph. D that is amazing! It is the work of a super-genius!! If don Juan actually existed that's nice, but nowhere near as amazing as if Castaneda made the whole thing up, period. I say all who are wise will agree with me. That is my view.
JEREMY DONOVAN TBD's VIEW:
Is that there is nothing amazing about the situation whatsoever. Anyone could have made don Juan up and accomplished the same things Castaneda did. He was a fraud and Jeremy KNOWS who deserves a Ph. D in anthropology and who does not and JEREMY KNOWS Castaneda did not deserve a Ph. D even though Jeremy has NO QUALIFICATIONS WHATSOEVER to make such an assessment.
*I say that Jeremy's views are narcissistic-ally deranged. He went from a Castaneda TB to a Demille TB. Reality has forced me into a position where I no longer blindly believe ANYONE on ANY SUBJECT unless I personally verify it for myself, period! And if history has taught you 'sane' people in this forum anything you should openly agree with me in this matter.
The insane blindly believe books to be infallibly and inerrantly true. ANY people who blindly believe ANY books to be infallibly and inerrantly true just because someone says so are indeed insane; and I say there are WAY TOO MANY such insane people alive in the world today!
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WHAT A "WARRIOR". YA GOTTA LOVE HIM, RIGHT?
Well, apparently good old courageous Jeremy Donovan TBD has gone back to Greece and has taken Guy Gardner with him. Guy obviously can't handle the fact that I called him out on his lie about don Juan stalking being a rip off perversion of Taoist beliefs. He was counting on no one here knowing much about the Tao. Obviously, Guy didn't count on the fact that I know quite a bit about the Tao. So, Guy was caught in yet another lie. Remember when he lied and said I post here because I have been banned from every other forum I want to post in right after I reminded you 'guys' how to find me by clicking on my registered name and going to the "About Me" section of my profile? Guy is obviously crazy.
A crazy person doesn't bother to examine the evidence before jumping to ignorant conclusions and no amount of evidence to the contrary will change the views of a truly crazy person. Yes, I have indeed just described Guy Gardner.
I, on the other hand, am always ready to change my views on any subject I currently hold as true. I strongly suspect that I am mistaken about A LOT OF THINGS. I see it as wisdom to always be ready to 'change course in midstream' if I feel a much better "path with heart" is presenting itself to me. The fact that I have drastically cut back on my insults is proof enough that I do indeed mean what I say. No congratulations from the losers in this forum and I don't expect or want any. The losers are loud when they have something to complain about. If you were true winners you would be congratulating me on my drastically cutting back on my insults. Isn't it great that I don't need you people for anything? Whether you congratulate me or ignore me it's all the same to me. Why? Because I am a WINNER! That's why. Was it Mark Twain or whatshisface who said that 'It ain't braggin if it's the truth!' Just being honest. I deserve congratulations and I officially congratulate myself for PROVING to you losers that I walk my talk while you just talk, talk, talk and stay the same.
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WIDGET WROTE:
Senor W. You say people died because of Castaneda. But what about those like me who lived because of Castaneda? I'd been to several therapists to help me work through my low self esteem that was keeping me trapped, sick and dying at the hands of an energy vampire, my ex. I was trapped. I was giving up hope. And in that moment of shock upon finding those sheets of acid meant for my little boy I snapped. Something inside of me pushed me to study the principles of stalking and I stalked that man out of my life. If I had shared any of those techniques with my therapists, they would have been stunned. Imagine telling a psychologist that you were planning on being sweet but not foolish, cunning but not cruel, patient but not neglectful and ruthless but not harsh? They would look at you like you were from mars and probably suggest medication. But without medication I evicted that troll from under my bridge. And no other method worked to that date. And I came away feeling more energy, more health and a sense of accomplishment that can't be compared with anything else. Castaneda or don Juan, whichever, did that for me. Before reading Castaneda I never could have imagined how to skillfully tease a tyrant out of my life or energy back to my immune system. Nobody I ever met even had a clue about the four methods of stalking. Castaneda presented them for an **** like me. Like Aquaman said. And it stuck. I didn't die in the desert like some swooning lovesick smitten cultie. I lived. I promise you with my medical conditions made worse by the stress of living with my petty tyrant I would be dead today. So there is the other side of the Castaneda coin.
MY COMMENT:
Now, I am not easily impressed by anything or anyone, but I am truly impressed by what Widget accomplished through the manipulation of Intent. I've learned that the real 'Secret' to the manipulation of Intent and the mastery of the Law of Attraction is to really, REALLY want something with a borderline obsession. If you really, REALLY want to accomplish something wonderful in your life you have set the stage for being able to accomplish the miraculous. Really (((REALLY))) wanting something is beyond most. I find most to be wishy-washy nowhere and that's why they live wishy-washy nowhere lives. They 'sort of' want things and are not willing to do the work and so their lives go nowhere worth being. Like Coconuts who will continue to create posts filled with YouTube links most of which no one clicks on. He doesn't have much of a clue and, apparently, will never have much of a clue and, obviously, belongs in this forum!
The way to be successful with the manipulation of Intent is to want to manifest things that, if they blow up in your face, will be a benefit to you. For example: Widget saw that her ex had deliberately placed a sheet of LSD in an area where her child would find it. That was the LAST STRAW for Widget. Accessing Intent and manipulating her personal reality was no longer a luxury, it became an ABSOLUTE NECESSITY!! Don Juan would say this is an example of how the best of us comes to the foreground of our lives when the proverbial sword of death is hanging overhead and about to fall. She accessed Intent and manipulated her personal reality for a noble reason: to protect her child. It was a marvelous warriors task and accomplishment. If true, I do indeed salute you, Widget!
She used Intend to manifest her ex leaving her in order to protect her child. If it blows up in her face she herself will be permanently separated from her ex in order to protect her child. This is what I call a "win, win" manifestation.
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I believe that when manifesting with Intent one should always seek the "win, win" situation for if you manifest something that blows up in your face and destroys you, well, you can rest assured you had it coming. You should ALWAYS seek the "win, win" manifestation. This is a core reason I agree with don Juan in that "sorcery is a dead-end street". People tend to use witchcraft and sorcery for insidious purposes that will indeed eventually blow up in their **** faces. In the final analysis:
((( NO ONE GETS AWAY WITH ANYTHING!! )))
It all has a way of coming back around eventually whether we believe it or like it or not: It is Universal Law!
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I work towards increasing the power of my ability to siphon the healing energy of the Entire Universe though my body and into Mother Earth. From my direct associations with Mother Nature I KNOW FOR A FACT that the Earth is a Living Being and is in tremendous misery thanks to the insane ways of the human race. Mother Earth NEEDS all the help She can get and I am working towards a borderline obsession with manifesting my dream into corporeal three-dimensional reality.
Whether don Juan approves or not is completely irrelevant to me. Don Juan obviously did not consider such a manifestation to be of importance. He was borderline obsessed with becoming FREE of his inorganic "allies" who had him prisoner. That is what I believe don Juan's quest for "freedom" was truly all about. There are many things I find useful from don Juan's teachings and a number of things I feel are EXTREMELY harmful (especially in The Art of Dreaming) and have no intention WHATSOEVER of applying those teachings in my life.
So, what works to better my life is more than welcome in my philosophical beliefs. Whatever wonderful teachings will help me to heal Mother Earth and make Her happy is more than welcome to me. If it blows up in my face I'll be healed as well. A 'win, win' manifestation indeed! Face it, both Jesus and don Juan have at least one thing in common: They both obviously didn't care much for healing Mother Earth. I can excuse Jesus because back then Mother Earth didn't need healing as She does now. From my dealings with Mother Nature She does not put much stock in Jesus coming out of the sky and healing Her. As a matter of fact, I've been told that Mother Nature holds Jesus PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for the ecological hell the Christians have helped to bring upon the Earth. Mother Nature holds Jesus PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for the destruction of many beautiful cultures who lived in harmony with the Spirit of the Earth and the stealing and rape of their lands in the name of Jesus. There is no Biblical indication, I can remember, that if and when Jesus shows up again He will give a damn about this planet, and that's a fact! People, people, people is all the Biblical Jesus seems to be concerned with and Mother Earth is determined that about 90% of all trouble-making humans shall be eliminated from the face of the Earth. So Mother Earth is determined to send BILLIONS of people to Jesus and He can sort them out.
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JUXTAPOSING VIEWPOINTS
MY VIEW:
If Carlos Castaneda created don Juan, created a string of New York Times bestseller books, made the cover of Time Magazine and tricked the anthropology experts at UCLA into giving him a Ph. D that is amazing! It is the work of a super-genius!! If don Juan actually existed that's nice, but nowhere near as amazing as if Castaneda made the whole thing up, period. I say all who are wise will agree with me. That is my view.
JEREMY DONOVAN TBD's VIEW:
Is that there is nothing amazing about the situation whatsoever. Anyone could have made don Juan up and accomplished the same things Castaneda did. He was a fraud and Jeremy KNOWS who deserves a Ph. D in anthropology and who does not and JEREMY KNOWS Castaneda did not deserve a Ph. D even though Jeremy has NO QUALIFICATIONS WHATSOEVER to make such an assessment.
*I say that Jeremy's views are narcissistic-ally deranged. He went from a Castaneda TB to a Demille TB. Reality has forced me into a position where I no longer blindly believe ANYONE on ANY SUBJECT unless I personally verify it for myself, period! And if history has taught you 'sane' people in this forum anything you should openly agree with me in this matter.
The insane blindly believe books to be infallibly and inerrantly true. ANY people who blindly believe ANY books to be infallibly and inerrantly true just because someone says so are indeed insane; and I say there are WAY TOO MANY such insane people alive in the world today!
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The Teachings of don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge - 1968 by Carlos Castaneda Intro
Acknowledgements
"I wish to express profound gratitude to Professor Clement Meighan, who started and set the course of my anthropological fieldwork; to Professor Harold Garfinkel, who gave me the model and the spirit of exhaustive inquiry; to Professor Robert Edgerton, who criticized my work from its beginning; to Professors William Bright and Pedro Carrasco for their criticisms and encouragement; and to Professor Lawrence Watson for his invaluable help in the clarification of my analysis. Finally, I am grateful to Mrs Grace Stimson and Mr F. A. Guilford for their assistance in preparing the manuscript."
- Carlos Castaneda
ABOUT DEMILLE:
"in 1976 when Richard de Mille published Castaneda's Journey: The Power and the Allegory, in which he argues, "Logical or chronological errors in the narrative constitute the best evidence that Castaneda's books are works of fiction. If no one has discovered these errors before, the reason must be that no one has listed the events of the first three books in sequence. Once that has been done, the errors are unmistakable."[12] On these showings de Mille asserts, The Teachings of Don Juan and Journey to Ixtlan cannot both be factual reports.[13] (De Mille was forced to produce a further edited volume in 1980, in which he withdrew some previously published criticism: De Mille had asserted that mushrooms did not grow in the Sonora desert, which was wrong, and his publishers edited out this criticism in the 1980 volume)."
"...In The Power and the Allegory, De Mille compared The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge with Castaneda's library stack requests at the University of California. The stack requests documented that he was sitting in the library when allegedly his journal said he was squatting in Don Juan's hut. One discovery that de Mille alleges to have made in his examination of the stack requests was that when Castaneda was alleged to have said that he was participating in the traditional peyote ceremony—the least fantastic episode of drug use—he was sitting in the UCLA library and he was reading someone else's description of their experience of the peyote ceremony...."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Castaneda
MY COMMENT:
So these university professors didn't have so much as a clue that instead of being in the desert with don Juan Carlos Castaneda was actually sitting in the UCLA library??? And you TB idiots just blindly believe DeMille, right? Hey, we all make mistakes. Memory is not something the wise should blindly trust. Of course their are errors in the writings of Carlos Castaneda. Unless the writers are absolutely perfect, we can trust, there are errors in ALL written works!
I have little doubt that you TB knuckleheads most probably blindly believed DeMille when he originally stated that mushrooms did not grow in the Sonora desert. I have little to no doubt that you just blindly believed it. Why? Because TB knuckleheads tend to blindly believe whatever they feel like blindly believing. If I wasn't here to challenge Guy Gardner on his lying claim about don Juan 'stalking' being a rip off and perversion of Taoist teachings I have little doubt that you TB knuckleheads would have just blindly believed it!
YOU PEOPLE REALLY NEED TO GET A CLUE! If you are truly wise you will adopt my view in that unless you personally verify what ANYONE tells you it is fiction, period! From what I have studied, neither Jesus nor the Buddha ever wrote down their teachings. There is even doubt whether or not the supposed apostles of Jesus actually wrote the four Gospels. From my studies, it was about 100 years after the alleged Buddha died that the teachings of the Buddha were written down by someone who talked to devote Buddhist monks and wrote down what THEY SAID the Buddha had said. Yet the knuckleheads of today quote the Buddha, Jesus, Krishna and whoever as though those people actually said what was attributed to them. Crazy bastards will even blow themselves up to prove their faith in the written words!
So...
There is no real proof that don Juan existed as Carlos Castaneda said he did
There is no real proof that Jesus actually existed as the Bible says He did
There is no real proof that the Buddha actually existed as Buddhist doctrine said he did
There is no real proof that Krishna...do I really need to continue because I could make a very, very long list this way
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COMMENT:
I keep posting this at the end of my posts to remind the coward Jeremy Donovan TBD that he has not directly addressed this matter yet. When he finally gets back from his second trip to Greece, with Guy Gardner, chances are we will all finally see his response to this:
JUXTAPOSING VIEWPOINTS
MY VIEW:
If Carlos Castaneda created don Juan, created a string of New York Times bestseller books, made the cover of Time Magazine and tricked the anthropology experts at UCLA into giving him a Ph. D that is amazing! It is the work of a super-genius!! If don Juan actually existed that's nice, but nowhere near as amazing as if Castaneda made the whole thing up, period. I say all who are wise will agree with me. That is my view.
JEREMY DONOVAN TBD's VIEW:
Is that there is nothing amazing about the situation whatsoever. Anyone could have made don Juan up and accomplished the same things Castaneda did. He was a fraud and Jeremy KNOWS who deserves a Ph. D in anthropology and who does not and JEREMY KNOWS Castaneda did not deserve a Ph. D even though Jeremy has NO QUALIFICATIONS WHATSOEVER to make such an assessment.
*I say that Jeremy's views are narcissistic-ally deranged. He went from a Castaneda TB to a Demille TB. Reality has forced me into a position where I no longer blindly believe ANYONE on ANY SUBJECT unless I personally verify it for myself, period! And if history has taught you 'sane' people in this forum anything you should openly agree with me in this matter.
The insane blindly believe books to be infallibly and inerrantly true. ANY people who blindly believe ANY books to be infallibly and inerrantly true just because someone says so are indeed insane; and I say there are WAY TOO MANY such insane people alive in the world today!
* And the complaining losers in this forum continue to ignore the fact that I have proven I 'walk my talk' by drastically curtailing my insults. Yes, I still do some insulting of Knuckleheaded idiots, but if you are honest you will have to admit that I have made a DRASTIC improvement! If you critical my posts were honest you would openly admit this and congratulate me. Since you who are critical of my posts are LOSERS you ignore the good and harp on the perceived bad. So, if there is no perceived bad in my posts you just ignore them. Why? BECAUSE YOU ARE LOSERS, THAT'S WHY!!!!
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