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The Quest of Personal Power
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I've picked something up from a fairy tale oriented book that is important to me, and perhaps, you. It is related to the aquisition of extraordinary magical power and the potential side-affects of non-selfish and selfish means of aquisition.
See, I realized something important I think. Why do this? Why post? Why connect? Why share?
I think.... that much of my posting has been for selfish reasons. To elevate my own levels of personal power and establish myself as a being of unusual levels thereof. Inevitably I find I come into conflict with MYSELF in posting. This is because ultimately I am not a selfish person and nothing I do is for me. I could care less about me, sad as it may seem.
So- in the story one person aquires power selfishly and one selflessly. Oh, to be sure, they both gain the same ammount of power. One of them, though, suffers serious consequences, and one of them doesn't. The selfless person got the magic to give to other people. The selfish one well just for themself- wound up pale and sick looking as the great power gift bestowed itself 'cause they saw that they'd have to live with their own petty minded evil forever.
So this applies to the current moment for me as - realizing my essential nature as a healer and a teacher and a guardian of living things- I must post in such a method as benefits YOU - the reader - and not ME - the writer. The latter will only induce misery. This brings many circular arguments and logical tangents into my head but Im gonna ignore those for now, LoL.
I have some inclination to imagine that my somewhat vast expertise in the field of entheogens can be of benefit to many of you.
Specifically I would do all in my power to assure that none of you ever make the same sorts of mistakes I have made and suffered from in my attempts to gain power and understanding through the use of entheogens. Then again maybe none of you are interested in entheogens and that's fine.
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#2
Hey Herba
Great insight!! Gratz!
I would like to ask a question on entheogens.
There is a place where I can buy fresh Peyote.
What is your experience with Peyote? Not sure that I need the help of that plant spirit, so it would be nice to know what sort of gift it gives.
Thanks
MS
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#3
LoL

That's one I can't help you with.

Now, if you can buy enough for both of us and meet me in the desrt then we can learn!



I have long chosen to use the entheogenic mushrooms and herb smoke as my means of dimensional transformation. The peyote spirit has thus never chosen to grace me with its presence. If I had an ability to aquire it I would, though. Ive only ever gotten a good feeling from it.



Now some people have the possibility of 'bad trips' and some people don't. Warriors don't. Those with fear in their bosoms should just stay away from them. Approach them without fear and full of courage and focus. You sound to be very well experienced in entheogens, perhaps?



Essentially I would say to stay with whole food plant entheogens - ones that can be eaten like whole foods - and the little smoke is a helpful tool - and this precludes anything like DXM, MDMA, LSD, alcohol, etc..



Just a cpl days ago I completed two weeks of a fruit only fast. I basically lived off bananas for two weeks and water only. This I recomend as well! To excel. To purify, beautify, and reprogram cells. I think the less dead matter we have in our bodies when we become one with entheogens the more transdimensional we get.
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#4
I think, perhaps, that the selfish path may be the more appropriate for me. A path of darkness and loneliness, but for some that's all there is. Where do you think you stand?
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#5
to think or believe in where 'I' stand is not for me. Knowing it is.

Im (as well as shamanic warrior) a zen guy, so, darkness and loneliness is just mere delusions and not the True Self. Emotions is just another thing to let go of in the process of dieing. This is the purpose of Zazen (meditation)



Thanks herb for the inspiration on living healthy dieting and living.



If Spirits point to it Herb we will meet in the desert. But what desert and where?
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#6
HerbaMatey wrote:
I've picked something up from a fairy tale oriented book that is important to me, and perhaps, you. It is related to the aquisition of extraordinary magical power and the potential side-affects of non-selfish and selfish means of aquisition.
See, I realized something important I think. Why do this? Why post? Why connect? Why share?
I think.... that much of my posting has been for selfish reasons. To elevate my own levels of personal power and establish myself as a being of unusual levels thereof. Inevitably I find I come into conflict with MYSELF in posting. This is because ultimately I am not a selfish person and nothing I do is for me. I could care less about me, sad as it may seem.
So- in the story one person aquires power selfishly and one selflessly. Oh, to be sure, they both gain the same ammount of power. One of them, though, suffers serious consequences, and one of them doesn't. The selfless person got the magic to give to other people. The selfish one well just for themself- wound up pale and sick looking as the great power gift bestowed itself 'cause they saw that they'd have to live with their own petty minded evil forever.
So this applies to the current moment for me as - realizing my essential nature as a healer and a teacher and a guardian of living things- I must post in such a method as benefits YOU - the reader - and not ME - the writer. The latter will only induce misery. This brings many circular arguments and logical tangents into my head but Im gonna ignore those for now, LoL.
I have some inclination to imagine that my somewhat vast expertise in the field of entheogens can be of benefit to many of you.
Specifically I would do all in my power to assure that none of you ever make the same sorts of mistakes I have made and suffered from in my attempts to gain power and understanding through the use of entheogens. Then again maybe none of you are interested in entheogens and that's fine.

This is a good thread and I'd hate to see it fade away.
Herb, can you comment a bit more on selfish and un-selfish?
What makes one, one or the other??  Our personal judgement of it?  Something external to us?  Societies morals and values?
What exactly is Personal Power? 

How do each of us go about obtaining it?  (If that's even a valid question).

SHM
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#7
"But what desert and where?"

being surrounded by wide open desert is really beautiful at times. Especially at night when the moons big and the landscape is lit up like day with a silvery glow. Imagine peyoteying in that! I live in california though its one of the only states I still like. Still, if I threw a rock really hard itd land in Arizona! LoL.



To me emotions are real and I have no intent or desire to stuff them, but rather to blow them up. I also feel though that nothing I think or say is true and that destiny will unfold no matter what I do. This makes me feel free.



I am also vexed by dissipation and everything I do tends to blow away into nothingness.



"This is a good thread and I'd hate to see it fade away."

Ahh, yes. Perhaps then you have a cure for the dissipation that vexs me. Seems unlikely.



"Herb, can you comment a bit more on selfish and un-selfish?



What makes one, one or the other?? Our personal judgement of it? Something external to us? Societies morals and values?"



Yes. According to the story selfish actions are specifically executed to benefit oneself, and unselfish actions to benefit someone else. You see though there are some circular arguments in this line of reasoning since if one does something to benefit themself they are then more capable of doing things to benefit someone else should that be their intention.



"What exactly is Personal Power?

How do each of us go about obtaining it? (If that's even a valid question).

SHM"



That's a much more challenging question! I think I experience PP as synchronicities, but its more than that. Literally Id say it sits in our belly buttons, where our third chakra lays and our umbilical chords originally gave us the power of nourishment that brought us to life..



So along that line I think that doing kundalini yoga exercises that strengthen the third chakra and "lifeline nerve" develop personal power. I feel that simply focusing on ones belly button as they go about their life also increases the personal power, and also the eating of very vital and alive foods.



Now a note of interest this year the year of 2010 when each digit is taking singularly and added to the next as is done in yogic numerology you get the #3. Synchronicity? This is the year of power. The year of the pookah.
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#8
If we all die and all our emotions and everything die with us then as eternal spiritual beings we really only have such a very tiny tiny tiny ammount of time to experience emotions. Unlike buddhists I do not see the mind as an issue and think we need to take this brief opportunity to experience what its like to be human rather than attempting to live like spirits while being human.



I have absolutely no need for traditions that try to pretend we are not sexual beings and that men and women need to be seperated. I used to. I used to try to emulate them and live by those ideals. I decided it was a failure and never will again. I despise religion and see no seperation between man and his emotions and man and his johnston.



To me being nonsexual is being dead. My goal is to live it while Im alive and not to cling to life and to let go of everything when I die.



In fact when I shroom spirit often kills me repeatedly. I actual feel it. Like on my last shroom trip a year plus back I experienced the end times and I had to die every single way everyone around me was going to die. It was hideously brutal. I had my neck snapped, got eaten by a giant dog, consumed by insects, all kind sof stuff. Also I was totally lucid and felt every single pain of the process each time as if it was really happening(indeed it seemed real I knew no difference) and each time I died I would totally let go and feel so satisfied and good then id be stunned id came back to life. Quite a kicker, eh? This is how I know I cant be killed. A law cannot be broken.
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#9
For me personal power depends is Realizing who and what you really are and standing your ground on it. Anything you can do to better yourself and others. Deprogramming yourself from the hassle free zone AKA the Matrix... you know. The zone that requires a very specific set of self limiting behaviors. Step out of that zone and your fellow man will Police you. Hence the hassle free zone.
 - When I conquered 8 months of devastating panic attacks, I gained personal power by overcoming them. At the same time I overcame fear of death.
 - Someone with personal power pursues his/her goal of enlightenment, and any other goal in life, Not wasting attention and energy in other people who would put them down or discourage them from their goals. This includes self limiting ways of thinking.
 - Someone with personal power is unable to feel sorry for themselves or take someone else's actions as personal.
 - Someone with personal power is impeccable with their word. Not using the power of the word against themselves or others (still struggling with this one myself)
 Also herba I like that you touched on sex. TBH I haven't had any in 3 years. I don't really feel bad about it. But your right. I do feel a lacking their. Love and companionship are essentials for my life. Sex IS a part of that for me. It has taken me time to realize that as a man: I should not or will not EVER feel ashamed about my desires as a man, and Also I make no excuses for it. The divine presence, spirit, or god Gave me the sexual drive in this life. It is not something I will ignore or feel ashamed of.
 Set your intention to get your Personal power. When you do this, you'll find that Power provides.
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#10
Well said bredren.



The quest for personal power is intense and not always so selfish as our enemies would have us believe. To be free one must be empowered. To be in love one must have power. All of our energy centers require power to operate!



Our connection to the Earth takes power to establish

Our ability to have lasting and fulfilling sex and creativity takes power to achieve

Our power is real

To love permanently and forever one must always have the power to affirm themselves, to keep the love real, or someone else will destroy it.

To speak one must have the power to connect to their intentions

To see the true reality one must have the power to overcome the false

To be united with the infinite one must have the power to overcome the individual.



Im speculating from a chakra sort of perspective. See the progression of the 7 chakras using the third as the foundation?
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#11
for me, personal power is accumulated by putting myself in the way of the Spirit.

it's a feeling of being a medium for something else - something working through me. when i'm experiencing in this way, it is immediate, forceful, powerful. moving over inside myself to let this other come through is the act which sets me in the way of power. the more i can do this, the easier it becomes. and when it ends, it's like being derailed somehow. things become heavier, more thoughtful. the more i live that - the heavier it becomes and the more difficult it is to believe i can get out of the way again. sometimes it is a moment, sometimes it is an hour. sometimes more.

i believe there are things you can do to make the alignment easier - more harmonious. herba matey mentions food and presence, for example. but in the end, for me it's all about this sense of moving over within yourself and allowing yourself to be this medium.... sustaining it and repeat encounters with it accumulate personal power.
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#12
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Posted this somewhere else, yet seemed appropriate here: 
What I refer to as "power" is simply my attentive capacity, or my ability to be in awareness of our world of experience at any one moment.  The more all-encompassing my awareness, the more it can include in terms of the world of experience, the more power.  Attention - power:  same thing.  
Power is very important.  All tools that aid in accessing awake mind are energized through power, or attention.  Power is not a "thing" or an energy even.  It is simply our ability to be in awareness at any time. 
To say "personal power" implies that there may be something like a "person" who can have some "power."  But there is no such thing, as such.  There is awareness, and there is the power implicit in that awareness, but there is no single entity (such as an "I") that wields that power. 

FWIW... 
SHM
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#13
Don juan quotes of power, and personal power.



"Power always makes a cubic centimeter of chance available to a warrior. The warrior's art is to be perennially fluid in order to pluck it."



"Everything we do, everything we are, rests on our personal power. If we have enough of it, one word is enough to change the course of our lives. If we don't, the most magnificent piece of wisdom can be revealed to us and that revelation won't make a damn bit of difference. Do you know that at this very moment you are surrounded by eternity? And do you know you can use that eternity, if you so desire? Do you know that you can extend yourself forever in any direction and use it to take the totality of yourself forever in any direction? Do you know that one moment can be eternity? If you had enough personal power, my words alone would serve as a means to round up the totality of yourself and get to the crucial part of it out of the boundaries in which it is contained." -From Tales of Power



"It doesn't matter how one was brought up. What determines the way one does anything is personal power." -From Journey To Ixtlan





"I am already given to the power that rules my fate. And I cling to nothing, so I will have

nothing to defend.

I have no thoughts, so I will see.

I fear nothing, so I will remember myself."



" Acts have power. Especially when the warrior acting knows that

those acts are his last battle. There is a strange consuming

happiness in acting with the full knowledge that whatever he is

doing may very well be his last act on earth."



" It doesn't matter what one reveals or what one keeps to oneself. Everything we do, everything we are, rests on our personal power. If we don't have enough personal power the most magnificent piece of wisdom can be revealed to us and it won't make a damn bit of difference. "
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#14
El Encanto de Silvio Manuel,
el Vidente







 Ya me di al poder que mi destino rige,

 No me aferro ya a nada, para así no tener nada que defender,

 No tengo pensamientos, para así poder ver.

 No temo ya a nada, para así poder acordarme de mí,

 Sereno y desprendido,

 Me dejará el águila pasar a la libertad
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Death Defier wrote:


El Encanto de Silvio Manuel,
el Vidente







 Ya me di al poder que mi destino rige,

 No me aferro ya a nada, para así no tener nada que defender,

 No tengo pensamientos, para así poder ver.

 No temo ya a nada, para así poder acordarme de mí,

 Sereno y desprendido,

 Me dejará el águila pasar a la libertad
Silvio
Manuel El Encanto, the Seer
 It gave me the power that governs my fate,
 And I cling to nothing, so
have nothing to defend,
 I
have no thoughts, so we can see.
 No longer afraid of anything, so you
can remember me
 Calm and detached,
 I will pass the eagle of freedom
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#16
Yes I experience something like that as what Ive come to think of as synchronicities.
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#17
Eilias123 wroteBig Grinon juan quotes of power, and personal power.



"It doesn't matter how one was brought up. What determines the way one does anything is personal power." -From Journey To Ixtlan





" Acts have power. Especially when the warrior acting knows that

those acts are his last battle. There is a strange consuming

happiness in acting with the full knowledge that whatever he is

doing may very well be his last act on earth."



" It doesn't matter what one reveals or what one keeps to oneself. Everything we do, everything we are, rests on our personal power. If we don't have enough personal power the most magnificent piece of wisdom can be revealed to us and it won't make a damn bit of difference. "
"I am already given to the power that rules my fate. And I cling to
nothing, so I will have

nothing to defend.

I have no thoughts, so I will see.

I fear nothing, so I will remember myself."
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#18
how about - impeccability is the only way to replenish personal power

or - personal power can only be used to help another store it

that will resolve your selfish and unselfish dilemna

and the translation is already i gave myself to the power that rules my fate

additionally i find more practical than impeccability which is/must be the foundation

are methods such as opening chakras - expanding inwardly and outwardly

dreaming and recapitulation

allies using- of course most helpful if one is open to storing it and not forgetting the total experience

all experiences are stored in the light body in ap positions. or however you want to describe that. let your power flow through your bubble of perception.

let some come in from outside. this will allow you and the other to expand each others' power

personal power can only be used to help another store it
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