Spiritual Failures

[Da Pimp]

While the vast majority of people are far from approaching anything real for a number of life-times, a significant number of people have what I call "Real Life Potential", that being, living a life of Spiritual Freedom, far out spiritual experiences, natural enjoyment and care-free occupations.


For most people, this individuals might look bright, easy-going, willful and overall worthy to look up on.


Sadly, the bulk of these people don't have a viable tonal (among other things) to take advantage of their evolutionary potential.


Having failed in reaching a magical life, these persons indulge in bad habits and materialistic pursuits to buffer their deep feeling of disappointment. Their attempts of magical life no longer have the intensity required to amount to something, nor they are doing anything that will directly lead to the much longed magical life. 


While they HAVE given up (even if they won't admit it), the Spirit has not given up on them.


To them I say what The Nagual Don Juan Matus told Carlos Castaneda:


"You may believe whatever you want," don Juan replied undauntedly. "The fact remains, there is no game without the nagual. I know this and say so. And so did all the naguals who preceded me. But they didn't say it from the standpoint of self-importance, and neither do I. To say there is no path without the nagual is to refer totally to the fact that the man, the nagual, is a nagual because he can reflect the abstract, the spirit, better than the others. But that's all. Our link is with the spirit itself and only incidentally with the man who brings us its message."




You may now drop your all-to-witty answers to demonstrate to the world how utterly unreal you are.


You are, after all, a vainglorious nothing.

[SelfHealedMadman]

Da Pimp wrote:

While the vast majority of people are far from approaching anything real for a number of life-times, a significant number of people have what I call "Real Life Potential", that being, living a life of Spiritual Freedom, far out spiritual experiences, natural enjoyment and care-free occupations.




For most people, this individuals might look bright, easy-going, willful and overall worthy to look up on.




Sadly, the bulk of these people don't have a viable tonal (among other things) to take advantage of their evolutionary potential.




Having failed in reaching a magical life, these persons indulge in bad habits and materialistic pursuits to buffer their deep feeling of disappointment. Their attempts of magical life no longer have the intensity required to amount to something, nor they are doing anything that will directly lead to the much longed magical life. 




While they HAVE given up (even if they won't admit it), the Spirit has not given up on them.




To them I say what The Nagual Don Juan Matus told Carlos Castaneda:




"You may believe whatever you want," don Juan replied undauntedly. "The fact remains, there is no game without the nagual. I know this and say so. And so did all the naguals who preceded me. But they didn't say it from the standpoint of self-importance, and neither do I. To say there is no path without the nagual is to refer totally to the fact that the man, the nagual, is a nagual because he can reflect the abstract, the spirit, better than the others. But that's all. Our link is with the spirit itself and only incidentally with the man who brings us its message."







You may now drop your all-to-witty answers to demonstrate to the world how utterly unreal you are.




You are, after all, a vainglorious nothing.

~

As an 'all-to-witty' specialist, I'd like to present a couple of snips from your previous post.  Look and 'see' the theme emerging:

"While the vast majority of people..."

"...a significant number of people..."

"For most people..."

"...the bulk of these people..."

"...to take advantage of their..."

"...these persons indulge..."

"...to buffer their deep feeling..."

"...their attempts of..."

"...nor they are doing..."

"...While they HAVE..."

"To them I say..."

"You may now..."

"You are..."

As the Joker would say, "Why So Serious?"

As SHM says, "Why concern about others?"

What are each and every one of us responsible for?  Ourselves. 

What 'others' do should be used like a mirror.  "What has Da Pimp written above that shows me something about myself?"  I grabbed my cubic centimeter of chance.  Have you??

Of course it's our human self importance and ego to be concerned about others and seperate 'them' from 'us.'

"Why the hell don't you agree with me??"

"I'm more advanced than you; listen to ME!"

Every concern in regards to 'others' shows us our true inner state.  It may not always be pretty, but it is what it is.

Now perhaps Master Pimp Daddy we can steer this ship in a different direction.

Each and every one of us should take this post (of yours above) and use it like a laser onto ourselves. 

Pick a person that you despise, or that has differing opinions than you and take it for what it's worth, as a mirror, a close examination of Self.  What do we think?  What do we feel?  What emotions does it evoke?  Why?  How do we re-act?  Where is this re-action coming from?  Who is re-acting?  (Small mind, Universal mind, or, Flyer mind?)  Stalk it.  Think about it.  Recap it.  Autolysis it.  Dissolve it.  
Every time we have negative thoughts or jugements of 'others' we should break down in tears of gratitude.  What a marvelous opportunity we have to work on our Self!  ...and, if we have the power to recognize our own idiocy and then do something about it, we then should pray on bended knee to the great Spirit for allowing us this energetic reality to occur! 
It's quite enlightening.

THE WARRIOR'S DISCIPLINE

"... by discipline, I don't mean harsh routines. Sorcerers understand discipline as the capacity to face with serenity odds that are not included in our expectations. For them, discipline is a volitional act that enables them to intake anything (or anyone) that comes their way without regrets or expectations. For sorcerers, discipline is an art: the art of facing infinity without flinching, not because they are filled with toughness, but because they are filled with awe. Summing it all up, I would say that discipline is the art of feeling awe."

Juan Matus

(from Carlos Castaneda's book: "Tensegrity...", p.8.)

Discipline is, indeed, the supreme joy of feeling reverent awe; of watching, with your mouth open, whatever is behind those secret doors.

An arrow of freedom from the fierce bow of the heart,

Kris

[Tiff]

Thoughts and judgments concerning the self spring from the no-self. Trivialities not to be concerned with. A byproduct of awareness.



The right intent is all that counts. A feeling in the eyes. That holds universes together.

[SelfHealedMadman]

Very stylish reply.



Please tell us of your Intent.

[Tiff]

Cool, glad you asked.



By saying "us" and "your" I hope you aren't meaning to imply I am an outsider here. I feel quite welcome and feel I am co-contributing to this site. I see there is much wisdom among members here and am just joining in.



Nagual Lonewolf recently sent me a PM saying hello and inviting me to come check out SW again. I felt a good energy from him, so I came, I saw and I love the Zen Magnetic, also other forums here. So my intent is to just contribute what I feel after reading everyone's post here and I like what was written on the main page as it best describes my intent as well:



"Here we are dedicated to advancing the teachings of nagualism. To explore the knowledge brought out by Carlos Castaneda and to advance upon its foundation. To push the boundries of dreaming and above all, to make each person aware of their totality and inherent human potential."



As far as intent in the broad sense...its with the eyes, isn't it? An expansive feeling in the eyes that grip without piercing (piercing is the FI's gaze). So its not "my Intent" but all of our intent, our lost heritage.

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Well said Tiff...I have always found your posts insightful and truthful filled with a warrior's intent.

[Tiff]

Thanks Wolf My heart sees you now (took me a few years). Though I liked you instantly since when I first saw your picture...years ago. I know that's a contradiction, but it's true.



And, I like this forum (now that I've checked it out), seems everyone has an individual voice coming through loud and clear, yet at the same time committed to a common effort. To me that's the best scenario to have. Not too much of one or the other. Reminds of a quote DJ said...something about "we are alone in this world but doesn't mean we have to be lonely."



Oh yes, and I'm back to assimilating CC syntax again...silly phrase I went through thinking I would walk away from all of it. But that act was not futile, because as I walked away from it, it all made sense again. Which reminds me of another quote but I'll stop with the quotes already.

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Yes I agree. This forum is filled with many good intents and there is a common one with the seeking of its true meaning. I am enjoying your contributions as well and see a very deep person with much expression. CC syntax always goes further each time I assimilate it.

[Hawkeye Crow]

Concerning what Da Pimp was speaking to, my take on these things.
There have been many questions about paranormal events. I have had a few. There was another of those cases in the news a few months ago, where an unsuspecting person, under stress, performed unimaginable acts to save a life (Lifting an auto off the victim). Unbending Intent was surely at play.
On one level, CC points out that modern culture has blocked our silent , magical , abilities. On another level, there are some , like with anything else, that have inborn talent (The 4 section luminous egg, perhaps?) , even in this world. And , such abilities can drive a person mad, unless they can identify what is happening, and learn the way to control and use it. For the most part, CC wrote that all people have some ability, likely most had it before the 'Rational' era, and had societies, as the Toltecs had, to focus these 'talents.
So, I had a lifelong, but secondary, nagging about these things. Castaneda's books helped me identify such events within myself. For instance, it is possible that, under stress, I shifted position such that I was no longer in view to others. I used to think that an act of God had favored me! I know better now.
Unfortunately, I am an unfinished one, as I starterd too late in a life filled with the usual mundane or  material concerns. 15 years ago it was like Power acted upon me, and I have been on that path ever since, with expected pitfalls, of course.
So yeah, I resonate with Da Pimp here.

[rosygyro]

There is a huge sorceric trap in play today...
Its not simply a matter of moving your assemblage..
there are layers apon layers.. of seers realms.. that have been in operation for eons.
A definign factor is..
Did you first move your assemblage...?
or did someone else slap or move it for you!?
also.. why did you move your assemblage..?
people rarely have enough sorceric will to move their assemblage unless they are under extreme stress...!
One of the seers traps..
is an area of MIND.. where all is darkness.. and in separation form the everyday world..
from here you can watch others movements in a seers kaleidoscope..
but it is an area of mind!
It is easy to assemble!
But difficult to ever be free of unless you stress yourself to leave its embrace!
but because it gives you the power to be emotionally detatched from social conditioning..
invariably all who eneter this realm.. become obsessed with moving their assemblage within its boundaries...
and some even TEACH others to become as lost as they are in the hope they can validate their enclave "
the sad and sorry truth is..
their are OLD SORCERERS in through and around about us all!
who made their attempt to leap to infinity!
but have not quite left our earth..
and instead PIGGYBACK civilisation.. as it progressess..
these OLD SORCERERS still need an energy source..
to TIME DEMARCATE their awareness for them..
so it can still travel in a form of MEST!
To join these OLD SORCERERS VIEW of the world.. is simplicity..
they invite you to become one of the many who follow their power structure as it stretches accross our planetary progress!
there is a problem however..
THE SIRE MIND of these sorceric methods or schools of sorcery has long ago ceased to have a physical body..
this means that there is an inherant lack of forebearance (ability to contain negativity) within the mass sorceric form...
meaning the extremes of the sorcerers world is sickness and psychic violence itself..
which prevents anyone from finding its extremes without becoming deranged (catch 22 again)
millions of people are lost in gargantuan sorceric remnants of the old way!
and many "inner games" have started within these forms..
WE are lost as a species.. too may games.. too hard a psychic barrier caused by dissacociation..
the habitual assemblage point is still a problem becasue..
even if you move YOUR assemblage.. it is still in RELATIONSHIP to the HABITUAL POSITION,,
and as with einsteins "all actions have an equal and opposite reaction"
you just know truthfully.. that you will never be free of the HABITUAL POSITION as long as it still EXISTS in our collective planetary focus!
as long as the extremes of the human assemblage are ruled by pshychic chaos from the old sorcerers ..
everyday man is never going to break his habit!
which is why the focus must be bought to re-initiating some of the easterly TOLTEC energetic force..
which is effectivly POTENTIAL energy..i.e. what could happen tommorow if everything went perfectly)
whcxih is the only force that can overshadow.. dead origins to the human mind.. through sheer creative life presence..
the sorcerers need food..
I say we need a new habitual position for the collective..
Is it possible we could feed the old sorcerers journeys.. with something other than the energy they have been piggybacking on.. without disrupting their infinite journey?
i.e. re-orientate the mindbase of the sorcerers world without clashing in intent with any easterly thought from our origin?
Because if we could we would have world peace in threedays!.

[Gonzo]

World peace is bad for the economy.

[Guest]

Gonzo wrote:World peace is bad for the economy.
How can you say that? Wars cost a fortune and put economies in debt.

[rosygyro]

Thats sort of not true!



What we are looking at is the creation of two tiers of energy structure !!!



The sacred and untouchable person the individual has a right to be without interference from others..

and the interactive energy structure or social being!



The second energy structure is the realm of magicians and the power greedy!!!

simply put..

a man who works all day everyday on a farm has a very powerful and grounded energy structure..

that interacts with machinery in a powerful way...

a man who lives in a city has an energy structure that relates to machines in a much more diffuse way...

there is a disparity and liminal area in cities within relatiuon to technology..

the truith of the matter is.. that grounded peoples should have a more powerful connection to technology..

and the foolish.. a passive connection to technology!



its ajkin to saying..

that a rich man no matter how many machines he owns..

if he is a fool.. he will be owned by his machines...

however if he is spiritually honest.. he will have a more powerful energetic relationship to his machines through easterly intelligence

essentiallyl "planes and spindles theory"..

could use technology itself to teach all individuals..through the intelligence of the machine they are exposed to! EASTERLY!

it would prevent the rich from having spiritual kuedos based on wealth and posessions.. and instead on well groundedness within the first tier !

and instead make keudos the realm of the spiritually sensible!



It wouldnt matter if you owned an egyptian sarcophagus..

the egyptian energy globule.. would still be in the possession of the nearest grounded person...( and this is the way it should be)



eventually you start to realise that many of your posessions are not your own but are an extension of other more knowledgable people than yourself...



you may argue with this...



but possessions are tonal effects..

and it is better for your effects to teach you..through being connections to people more knowledgable than yourself! or even not people.. but more refined energy in manifestation.

than for them to curse you by connecting you to people who just want power...



as such the tonal energy can be split into two flows.. within intelligence..

teaching from more etheric channeles of manifestation..

or objects you do battle with through their connection to people who should be receptive to purpose rather than forcing awareness.



obviously in todays world , particularly the magical world.. there is a problem with the forcing of energy on others..

but this is set to change...



within the split in manifestation of objects within a specific persons tonal...

there is the major concern of mammon.. (or money)



what if money itself.. was toxic to the energy form...

if intelligenceof trade was bought into the auric system!



im certain if having too much money or being selfich or cruel drove people mad..

it would actually be very good for the economy!

and we still get world peace!



easterly intelligenc eis ridiculous in its intelligence..

but like all things yet to happen..

they need lynchpins and mechanisms of thought to allow them to be dreamt into existence...

[Guest]