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Only a crackpot would undertake the task of becoming a man of knowledge of his own accord. A sober-headed man has to be tricked into doing it. There are scores of people who would gladly undertake the task, but those don't count. They are usually cracked. They are like gourds that look fine from the outside and yet they would leak the minute you put pressure on them, the minute you filled them with water.
- The Nagual Don Juan Matus
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Philosopher wrote:
Only a crackpot would undertake the task of becoming a man of knowledge of his own accord. A sober-headed man has to be tricked into doing it. There are scores of people who would gladly undertake the task, but those don't count. They are usually cracked. They are like gourds that look fine from the outside and yet they would leak the minute you put pressure on them, the minute you filled them with water.
- The Nagual Don Juan Matus
Ah so....
The 'trick' is in the tricking.
Who is performing the trick? Who is being tricked? What is being tricked? What does being tricked mean? How is one tricked? How is that who is performing the trick tapering it to the apprentice? When does the omen arise to be tricked? Where is one tricked, Tonal or Nagual or both? Why is there a need for such trickery?
Let us delve into this, my friends...
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A "sober headed man" must be tricked into it. The real warriors jump in willingly. Whether they crack or not is up to the spirit.
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Nagual LoneWolf wrote:A "sober headed man" must be tricked into it. The real warriors jump in willingly. Whether they crack or not is up to the spirit.can you describe what such a crack may feel like? A few weeks ago during a period of intense emotional instability I felt a pressure move from my head... It felt like an energy exploded outward from the center of my head and expanded until it reached the edge of my cocoon.
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I believe the crack referred to is when a warrior cannot comprehend the knowledge he is faced with when filled with the spirit. The crack can be many things to each and there is no way to interpret how each will define their experience. They will mend and go on believing nothing happened. We are frail creatures when it comes down to it and our body has defenses to protect us from such invasions if we invoke them. What happened to you maybe a crack or a release. A warrior(n) can release his energy if he lets go of it by high pressure situations. At least it did not go far Eilias based on your words.
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My point (and Don Juan's):
Most people wanting to enter the magical world of sorcerers can't handle it. This doesn't apply to natural "born" sorcerers, not to people that by sheer impeccability enters the subtle world spontaneously.
Example-to-point: Castaneda's followers.
My reference is to unfixable cracks, not sorcerers with more or less folly (like myself). Some things do have solutions, if we want them. I always say that many sorcerers can do much better than they already are. This is not a condescending attitude from my part but a call to improvement.
Alas, most people don't want to improve not even hear a suggestion of improvement. I guess the great adventure of the Unknown is more alluring than I can imagine. Not my cup of tea.
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Alas, most people don't want to improve not even hear a suggestion of improvement. I guess the great adventure of the Unknown is more alluring than I can imagine. Not my cup of tea.
And most would rather be pontificated to than figure it out for themselves. The art of ruthless questioning and thoughtful debate is lost to these types of wanna be warriors.
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Well I think the pressure comes from Spirit, and Spirits desire to make us perfect. Since this is a huge undertaking, and people have so much they need to work on, esp. with their SI, then when it comes along they may crack and go mad. I know Ive had encounters with Spirit and at times thought I might go mad myself, which is why I snapped back quickly into the tonal for safety, haha. Got to keep that little tonal island nice and neat for when Spirit comes along and invades it.
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The key is in how CCs words are interpreted. If one is not interpreting them correctly, they stay stuck in the social milieu of competitive assertions. Really there are only two players in the arena...the warrior and Spirit.
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Is the cracked gourd maybe a reference to those whose commitment is only superficial, who will quit under pressure?
A true warrior? I don't know. My choice is either to accept platitudes, or search out true meaning. Power knocks at our doors all the time, yet we do not hear it. New dimensions beckon beyond that door, many forces want us to keep it closed!
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Elias - I have often had a feeling about you in relation to your dreaming prowress, and it stems from knowing what illness your mother suffers from. I do not in any way think that you will suffer with that, but I do think that it gives you an edge. That particular illness effects the brain physically - with larger than normal structures or spaces within the brain, and I think this is what enables one to have a great access to "the other side" or the nagual. This is your edge, but with that edge comes the added responsiblity of working harder to keep you very sensitive equipment(i.e. your brain) balanced. I feel that if you had to be compared with anyone in CC's party it would be Eligio, who was able to leave this world at his own choosing and was enormously talented, and also Silvio Manual who was able to stay in heightened awareness all of the time. As far as your description of something moving out of the top of your head, well I think it was a complete opening of your 7th Chakra, and maybe you had been having a build up of energy in your third eye area - which when out of balance makes us feel unstable, spacey and out of mental balance. So, congratulations - you are completely plugged in now! Try to focus and balance that chakra daily for awhile to integrate this energy. Many blessings to you - Dreamgirl
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That was a pleasant read Dreamgirl. Thanks for the encouragement!
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Well I think the pressure comes from Spirit, and Spirits desire to make us perfect. Since this is a huge undertaking, and people have so much they need to work on, esp. with their SI, then when it comes along they may crack and go mad. I know Ive had encounters with Spirit and at times thought I might go mad myself, which is why I snapped back quickly into the tonal for safety, haha. Got to keep that little tonal island nice and neat for when Spirit comes along and invades it.To "stop the world" IS madness. It is a controlled madness, though.
At least it seems "contolled" until you actually do "stop the world".
This is the first goal.
To know you are mad,... to know you are living in a different world than those around you.
To find your way back to where you began before you "stopped the world" is also madness and a seemingly impossible task.
That is the second goal.
When you reach that goal you find out it was impossible. You can never go back.
That is Ixtlan.
You can never quite reach it because even though you may heal and stabilize yourself, those around you who have never left in the first place, are living a quiet, comfortable madness of their own.
They are pretending there is nothing more that exists than what is considered the "norm" to keep themselves from "cracking".
While you pretend they are correct to keep them from considering you cracked.
That is controlled folly.
I find their "normal" madness boring.
The other is frightening
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