Enigma of a sorcerer

[Blue totem]

Following my post on sustained reaction. I went on to view enigma of a sorcerer for the fist time.




And my conclusion is this; yes some people have a grudge with Castaneda. In this movie, people talk about the teachings in the books. People talk about the
credibility of Carlos, and talk a lot about the validity of the stories/teachings in his books. It is also a question of the reality of Don Juan, some say he
was real, some say he was fictional. Some go on to say Castaneda was a con man, some say he was a real sorcerer...




Personally I don`t know if don Juan was real. But I do think that the technical content in his books, is authentic. I say that because of my own personal
experiences, not just out of simple belief or disbelief.




So my thinking goes like this; why would Carlos Castaneda lie about Don Juan, when he put so much effort in revealing the hidden, and very real, knowledge of
the seers and sorcerers... Why would someone write the truth about reality, and lie so blatantly at the same time . I think it`s very possible that Don Juan
was real.

[Hawkeye Crow]

Hello Blue totem!




I have been trying to address this for some time , without slamming , what are to me , the really great Ideas that Castaneda wrote about . And , to offer some
thoughtful criticism of him , without blaming him for his , as I see it , failures. HEY! I am full of failures myself , so , as a warrior , I can only
observe , and go from there.




I would say that the Nagual is a particular kind of creature. At some point , Carlos wrote that he was not a proper Nagual because his luminosity was divided
in 3 parts rather than 4 , and that Juan Matus had overlooked this because of a bit of desparation on his part to pass his legacy on to a new generation. Now,
I am just beginning to understand the meaning of what I just said , but that is one way it is described in the books.




A qualification is that in this narrative , some things of importance are given only one or two sentences in 10 books! I think that this was due to
Carlos' biased point-of -view. So , I reviewed this , just last week , from "The Second Ring of Power" . If you know this book , you are aware
of Carlos' fight with Dona Soledad. During a pause in the confrontation , Soledad is answering Carlos' questions and speaks of Eligio.




Quote: 'Eligio...was thorougly indifferent. The world didn't touch him. The Nagual (don Juan) didn't want you (Carlos) , in particular , to have
much to do with Eligio. TheNagual said that you are the kind of sorcerer one should stay away from. He said that your touch doesn't soothe, it spoils
instead. He told me that your spirit takes prisoners. He was somehow revolted by you and at the same time he liked you. He said that you were crazier than
Josefina and that you still are. "




So , here is a statement , from Carlos' own hand about Carlos. My feeling is that it can't be helped . That according to what I can learn about the
Warriors Way , and Sorcery , Carlos did not complete his task , and that therefore , all of the confusion and hostilities that we see today are the result.




But , So What? Warriors are responsible for themselves , not Carlos Castaneda. Anything else is just Indulging , at least , that is , if one feels that the
teachings have any validity at all. They do to me , that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!




Oh , I haven't seen the video mentioned here , but I mean to as soon as I can spare the cash.




And this too: the more I learn about Sorcerey , the more I think that being a 'con-man ' is a part of it. The issue is purpose, for the more I look
at it , any ruse is appropriate for survival and advancement. Though this may seem immoral , remember the 'path with heart' and the danger most
'average human-beings' present to those with wisdom. And , any warrior worth his salt knows that this universe is ruled by 'cause and effect'
. We pay it to the piper , be careful what you wish for , and many other cliches DO apply! That is to say, that sorcers are not generally selling used cars ;
impeccability , not sleaze.

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