Truth, lies and Act of Thrust

[NagualHuman]

Full Definition of TRUTH
1- archaic :  fidelity, constancy b :  sincerity in action, character, and utterance
2:  the state of being the case :  fact (2) :  the body of real things, events, and facts :  actuality (3) often capitalized :  a transcendent fundamental or spiritual reality b :  a judgment, proposition, or idea that is true or accepted as true  c :  the body of true statements and propositions
3:  the property (as of a statement) of being in accord with fact or reality b chiefly British :  true
2:  fidelity to an original or to a standard
4: capitalized Christian Science :  god— in and truth:  in accordance with fact :  actually

Origin of TRUTH Middle English trewthe, from Old English trēowth fidelity; akin to Old English trēowe faithful — more at true

Usage Discussion of word lay — li·er noun— lie low 1:  to lie prostrate, defeated, or disgraced 2:  to stay in hiding :  strive to avoid notice 3:  to bide one's time :  remain secretly ready for action

TRUTH In philosophy, the property of statements, thoughts, or propositions that are said, in ordinary discourse, to agree with the facts or to state what is the case. At least four major types of truth theory have been proposed: correspondence theories (see realism), coherence theories (see coherentism, idealism), pragmatic theories (see pragmatism), and deflationary theories. The latter group encompasses a wide variety of views, including the redundancy theory, the disquotation theory, and the prosentential theory.
 
Truth is the worst program humanity ever agreed to use, not because it enlightens but because of the undeniable self/importance that inseparably comes within it's effect.
When we question the truth, the doors for hundred of them opens as it was done throughout the history countlessly.
People strive for truth and believes in it, because fear of unknown and of symbolical death is much more bearable when one is able to walk steep pathway leading on the top of the endless mountain, relying on a wooden staff - easing the ardous effort, but diminishing the possibility of one's freedom to move freely in whatever condition.
There is no truth that would be definitive and belief in opposite is just an wish for the final rest, where one could be simply without effort.

Everything requires our effort,
if that is unnoticable and normal - effortless, attention is lying on wrong side of the awareness thing;play of subconscious and conscious flows on which awareness moves and the confusing;enchanting games we play onto ourselves inside the meaning we give to these currents.
In every societal, scientological, spiritual or governmental system = a conglomerate of laws in which truth is undisputable and works as a point of reference* on which the world around is builded;imported from and then concieved as important in means of basic function of that truth and it's effects.

Learning, accepting - getting to know to the truth makes us to see -something-, what the truth unfolds - says, but negates other options,conclusively.

Truth no matter how good it may seem, is the biggest evil humanity ever had, not because of it's effect nor value, but because it is the most simple and visible way of obsession.
In every group of beliefs = laws of proper interaction, obsession is present as result of need for posession,
created by the fear of innevitability of everything and disbelief in unlimited force which created it all in the first place - freedom;a free will of creation.
Every faith or any other sort of accepted beliefs - rules of mechanisms is double-edged as it says what is right and also what is bad, but path of freedom - sorceric and warrior's way is beyond that need to validate and finish;end the move of awareness in any kind of way except pointless death, a non-productive abuse of resources and substance of individual heirs access to ever-expanding calibration of the actual configuration towards freedom.

From the first dawn the obsession - an act of perpetual posession was and to this age, tries to serve as that staff to support the foundation of the doings of that particular specimen, groups and specific rails of awareness through which we on by emotions, reason and will move move. No matter the alleged and predetermined efficiency of specific attitudes and procedures considered by those beliefs - laws - truths, it is still an Act of Worship which put humanity as a whole same as individuals by centuries and everyday life into solidified, strictly structured fields of awareness and its overal position towards circumstances.
Worshiping is the basic function of tonal, thus natural, but what truly endangers the growth is importance;stance you hold toward the truth and the fact of innevitability of change.
This does not mean that total detachment and disconcern is right, but that on deeper level it all has to be taken gently but accurately,
 in means of a Warrior's Creed which builds the attitudes towards circumstances in all directions of development of energetical;E-Motional use which always has to be motivational as that is the basic motive of any interaction we do consciously or not, it still traverse the awareness somewhere and there is big difference between hanging on emotions and fully using them without attachment.

Hanging on emotions means impossibility of changing them, like hanging on the l'edge and having a real problem - no where else to catch.
Using them without attachment means you give a *** and simply use them as a tools, which works bestly with abstract;higher intent, having always possibility.

"Silence is emotion."

Tonal is almost w,holy based on transmission of energy between known;truth.
Every piece of this inventory of beliefs holds connections, they are hooks of awareness, same as totaly completele worlds in means of meaning having - constructed fields of chaining reactions;bonded elements by will, which creates contracting;condensing and expanding;extracting force, while reason says;fits those elements of inventory into action;applies their meaning location in the honeymaze - hive of dreams;luminous secret of human beigns. Tonal is based on truth, the meaning of the places;things;thoughts/images which are focuses on which attention is holded, to unchain those and force awareness to utilize them as unknown, the meaning and attitude has to be fluid, sort of a lying, if we are conscioussly works on the premise of everchanging nature of the Force and it's ability to shift anyhow as that is what Infinite means.


Questioning or a Shift inside Tonal is process of accessing the unknown as that is the basic pattern of it - "Do I know or Do I know how this works/moves/interacts ?" and the element of wonder which is energeticaly invoking emotions, however the objects, words on which the awareness is pushed onto by the move are from domain of Tonal. The fact that it supress and surpass tonal is caused by the naturality of human awareness which on the premotive level interacts;dreams via Third Attention which fluctuates inside both these spheres harmonicaly which harshly means beign "Death but Alive", "Not Needing,yet Gaining", "Gaining without Giving" or "Dreaming without Question".
Definition of LIE intransitive verb
1:  to make an untrue statement with ]intent to deceive
2:  to create a false or misleading impressiontransitive verb:  to bring about by telling lies

Origin of LIE Middle English, from Old English lēogan; akin to Old High German liogan to lie, Old Church Slavic lŭgatiFirst Known Use: before 12th century

Synonym Discussion of LIE
lie, prevaricate, equivocate, palter, fib mean to tell an untruth. lie is the blunt term, imputing dishonesty . prevaricate softens the bluntness of lie by implying quibbling or confusing the issue . equivocate implies using words having more than one sense so as to seem to say one thing but intend another . palter implies making unreliable statements of fact or intention or insincere promises . fib applies to a telling of a trivial untruth .
"The end justifies the means."


Lying on the other hand works directly from the void, as it directly and fluidly arrange the known, bluntly said changes whole dream, because lying is simply act of disproving proved or accepted whatevers. Lying is a kind of a tricking investment of energy that dislocates established meaning;world, a joint of the dream structure. One can believe in truth, but truth through the path subtly but irrevirsibly changes the overal landscape of perception. The way in which we perceive, receive and penetrate throughout out the circumstances. This means that the truth abstractly over-time does not exist as something viable throughout the whole journey of life, but as the point of reference, which irreversibily is going to change someday, depending on the moment in which the attention reaches certain threshold of conjoinment of reality and as a natural shift that occurs via accessing unknown.

Simplest way to change the current dream of awareness is to lie out from it, simply giving a *** and thus reorganizing the whole structure made before, burning it down by the intent of silence and stubborness towards that dream currens, part of reality in the attitude of unwilligness to believe that it is truth. Another way is Equivocation which parameters are by their nature of non-certain, thus shifty and abstract nature.
Equivocation aproach towards the elements and underlying patterns of current reality - dream unlocks the fields of possibilities that are already included inside the configurational ability of Equivocation to lay out the meaning anyhow;in an unknown metaphysicaly quant way, wheter in inner processess or outerly realized - dreamt ones.

"Spirit often called d'Great Trickstah."

Unknown in its nature is simply said lie in meaning of whoknows who knows what that means, and in essence totality of tonal and totaly solidified structure, except Infinity which does not by it's natural essence does not neglects it, is absolute nonsense as everyshifting meaning and dream, fluidity is the essence of Freedom, same as Dreaming is commonly imagined as shifty and with unreal-foggy properties.


"Equivocation is Equinox of possibilities."


Nagual is almost w,holy based on transmission of energy between unknown;"lies" - ephemereal substances that are very real, yet by their nature unlikely almost impossible to be fully solidified and structuralized in the construction of the dreams, wheter we are thinking or livin through them, these elements are mainly accessed through trigger or rush of emotions like fear, laughing, awe and wonder, unknown the mysterious obscuring, shady element, from which was foundation of any tonal raised, not because unknown over-time in it's effect forces it, but because of the cause of evolution of awareness that made us as a self-established conglomerate which within one of its many functions need;seek a place from which can moved further, or where can the awareness rest and stop in it's shiftiness;i.e. looking for the truth, on the scale of perceiving, but if Freedom is still the goal, than this is total nonsense and demagougery, because leaving unknown or tonal is simply nonsense, when we are working on the premise of energetical nature of beigns as naturaly known and unknown.

The thing is that tonal created;inflated like baloon by the pressure of outer world, but only by itself, mainly in childhood or when we are childrens. This means that for anyone going for freedom tonal itself is just rigid, solid same old thing, which is by the proccess of getting of the edge of it;going to the d'essenza, which made us in the first place, even before the tonal or nagual started to form inside our realm-making, world fluctuating structure and this happens not just on the brink of born physical, but by every-second over and over again as we are living and dying - 50/50, 99/1, 1/99 or any other combination of those two powers that are every second swaying and influencing our attention and perception both, but each in different way, it you take your awareness or however you call that everything you perceive subconscioussly or not as an second by second act of blinking, blackness of infinite potential and world of definite prescription, which definity is based on will by constricting and thrusting movement and simply, but not accurately said intention of trajectory and on reason which places and displaces concrete images,thoughts and other forms of energy in terms of having some kind of a point of reference of usage and meaning of those patternical elements.

"What is there behind tonal and nagual side of things ?"

There is very slight, but through that even more influent border between worshiping and trusting.

Act of trust is the most intimate and direct connection we have with the Known and Unknown, directly accessing Spirit;a conjuction elements of the dream with the basic gravitional force of awareness. On physical and electromagnetical plane this force is gravitional. On emotional and mind-creating it's intensity and the reaction triggered by whatever cause.

Act of Trust or Worship is a link to a Spirit and the cause of applied forces of the behavioral, directional;guiding forces.

[NagualHuman]

[Julio Juliopolis]

Is not the quest to expand one's awareness a search for greater truths? What would it mean to say a man of knowledge is impeccible with his word if truth is inseperable from self importance and obsession?

[NagualHuman]

Because the journey across infinity never ends, and the life and death in all its forms in our doing and knowing in every moment is ever-present, I think, fleeting it is in all its glory.
I feel that then actualy about having the only right and applicable thruth the life is about finding the meaning, some dream to vanish into with all our joy and passion.

[NagualHuman]

Anyway, I before hour I came to a big enlightment and must point out that I was acting like a total **** till that, sorry I somehow made someone uncofortable here between the space created, I will do my best to not make it happen again....

[NagualHuman]

The biggest problem with path of "knowledge" is that everyone thinks you will become the boss of your life or gain that what you always wanted, some kind of Demigod status and stuff like that in comparison to the actual reallife situation, the guy with the definitive words in the questions about Nature of it all, but the truth is there is nothing definitive or complete except the first moment we saw it in all its glory of all-embracing understanding, but then it becomes just another scrap of inventory with value same like question "Is it better to have milk in coffee ?". The more you are able to bow before unknown, by forgetting, dissolving and wash out that pride and treasure you gained before, understanding that still knows nothing, the more you are human, learning every step more and more leaving no trail or memories of past, that is living in presence of present.

There is nothing more that importance, because if path of Warrior would not be important, why the *** we would even try, another paradox of which our full-of-sand minds are full of, the only thing we strive for is some kind of a way through life that would fullfill us, made us Really important, yet easy and accepting warriors nature is about that.

Importance imports solidity and way of warrior is about that I am, portable throughout all that and that the meaning I search for in life is always fleeting and because of that even more passionate.

[Mr Nagual]

What does it mean to lie?

Consider the insect known as the "walking stick". It sought refuge from predators. It wanted to decieve them into thinking it was just a stick. Over time, it shapeshifted until that is exactly what it looks like today. Perhaps it had an unfortunate cousin whom, being unwilling to lie in such a fashion, is extinct today. Or perhaps we can look at the dance of the fireflies. The female of the firefly species Photuris has learned to imitate the mating dance of the female of a different species of firefly. She uses this to lure males in which she promptly eats. Some male fireflies have learned to copy a mimic firefly, which is an extremely dangerous predator, to chase off other males away from potential mates. And some fireflies are known to pretend to be both a female and a rival male, enticing the most competitive males to join them for dinner.

Of course nature doesn't show us this deceit to only insects, the cookoo bird has the remarkable ability to lay eggs that look like the eggs of other birds with nearby nests. Maintaining an unbending intent to avoid having to sit on a nest all day, the cookoo will lay a green egg and sneak it into the nest of a reed warbler who will mistake it for one of her own. Another year, that same cookoo may lay a brown, spotted egg to deposit into a meadow pipet's nest. Flora and fauna of all different types have learned to adapt disguises to look like poisonous or otherwise less appetizing species.

So what is nature teaching us with all these examples? That a lie, told with unbending intent, becomes true and thus not a lie. This is why a nagual cannot lie. One who has such unbending intent in his words as a nagual will bring about change as he speaks. If I, as a nagual, were to tell someone that they are falling down drunk as they read this, that person would instantly become drunk and remember having been drinking for hours prior to reading my words. My words would create the reality of it, and thus I would not be lying.

So as you gain power on your path lie well my friends, for in some timelines your words are already truth.

[NagualHuman]

Are you the dragon or just the same-old eagle ?
Anyway I think the refuge we seek lies even in more ancient, prehistorical times of seers which perception were out of bounds of our concieving of reality.
I do not know of any single specie of dinosaurs that would use so elaborately hivemind except Velociraptors, anyway thanks for your words I will connect my energies with the prehistoric seers on which which were here before ancient seers and who were not by slightest understood by them, unfortunately they were killed by big meteor, it would be real paradox and another trick of spirit if he would do the same with us, or in reverse move with the new seers which age with the golden dawn. Dunno why but I feel from your words an insenct - Ant energy, I do not know maybe thats just because I am the Don Juan - Juma Antus and set you all on this in that treacherous books, its really time to wipe our assess with all we know and be what we always knew, we sorcerers and warriors are the Myth like a D-RAG,E-OON.

[Black Jaguar]

Mastery of Dreaming, Stalking and Intent is not about using foreign energy as throwing one's own power into anything other than the task, not the landscape on which she/he walks nor circling in blasphemies of processes that are inevitability and anything else than directly pointing out and showing Dream for common good of one as of whole, however it be revolutionary and controversial, anything aloof from that is soulless waste of our precious luminous potential;perception as only putting ourselves, Only in, and around in all angles around the mystery of awareness and only it's definition the word Dream we set ourselves on final journey across Infinity, through that, may it only ever be achieved;Life of a Warrior is Myth as the Great Mystery is Directive.

I would like to know how you can be measured how much or when one is nagual ?

[NagualHuman]

You like you have something in your head, so I would really love to try for atleast one moment shift your attention from the need to supraconductively surpass what mine or fellow mr. nagual words and try to read them with the fire by which you supressing, adversely, because infinite passion is behind and beyond all that we see.
For me the only truth is that life is mastery of mystery and if the reality is builded on, nothing can be against, that dreaming perception because it automaticaly yet as you said eloquently and elegantly, and maybe little awefully dissolves and rejoins as a whole elsewhere without arduous effort, just with a knowing what it truly is, without need to question , that for me is a mystery

You can either be on both sides of the things, the goods and bads, but if we Warrior way is about strive to be free, than we can freely choose to take only good, if we accept that it may cost us something on which lay, and rely on by known.

As for your question, read my answer.

[NagualHuman]

*As for your question, read my signature

[Black Jaguar]

So I did, but I do not know if you are relentlessly trying to reflect crystal clear mirror, or just imposing your own reflection, by like balloon, inflating only your own personal and sacred definition of magic, because you really have no clue what it, and the whole teachings - worldwide are really about and so you run away from your fear by deflating your ego by abusing your very innocence and just, only in your own opinion, fantastically influencing everything around you, but be wary to even that, what seems as heaven or what you are foolishly and relentlessly trying everywhere, here achieve.
If I were you I would be very conservative because you do not know what you are in the reality doing.

I do not wish you to answer to my posts unless you stop, pretending it, because in my very personal opinion you are just some strange, weird kind of sophisticated emotional vampire.

[Mr Nagual]

NaggyHuman wrote:Are you the dragon or just the same-old eagle ?
Anyway I think the refuge we seek lies even in more ancient, prehistorical times of seers which perception were out of bounds of our concieving of reality.
I do not know of any single specie of dinosaurs that would use so elaborately hivemind except Velociraptors, anyway thanks for your words I will connect my energies with the prehistoric seers on which which were here before ancient seers and who were not by slightest understood by them, unfortunately they were killed by big meteor, it would be real paradox and another trick of spirit if he would do the same with us, or in reverse move with the new seers which age with the golden dawn. Dunno why but I feel from your words an insenct - Ant energy, I do not know maybe thats just because I am the Don Juan - Juma Antus and set you all on this in that treacherous books, its really time to wipe our assess with all we know and be what we always knew, we sorcerers and warriors are the Myth like a D-RAG,E-OON.The dragon or the eagle? I like that question. It reminds me of how simple I was in my youth, thank you for doing that. But with age came maturity and with maturity came wisdom and with wisdom came money and while the money isn't realy relevent I mention it only to show that one can be both wise and rich. If you can see that then you should have no problem understanding how I can be both Eagle and Dragon. As the eagle I will teach you to soar. As the dragon I will tell you of the old days, before the prehistoric seers you seek to connect with. You should know that the specie of dinosaur which used hivemind most elaborately were the Deinonychus. Oh sure the Velociraptors would hunt in packs, but the Deinonychuses did so much more. I remember the first time I answered my door to a group of Deinonychus Christmas carolers. Cute little fellers. I taught them how to make paintings on cave walls. Of course, being the pranksters they were they disguised the paintings so that future people would think they were made by early humans. They weren't killed off by a meteor by the way, that's just another error in man's understanding. It was actually an attack of giant space cows which did them in, as well as the other dinosaurs excepting the ones that shapeshifted into fish. The space cows moved on, and silly people not being able to conceive of such a thing instead attributed the entire dinosaur disappearance to a really big rock. Someday soon the fish will leap out of the oceans, turn back into dinosaurs and yell "Surprise!", but like a careful terrorist mastermind first they must wait for the right moment when we aren't expecting it.
By the way I am pleased that you have felt my energy like an ant. I always enjoy watching people progress on their path to something greater. With you I see the greatest difficulty in picking up on subtle energies. I feel that you are so attuned to loudly broadcasting that your ability to receive has atrophied. As a test to the degree which this has occurred I sent some energy your way to see if you could pick up on it, and a tear of happiness formed in my eye when I read "Dunno why but I feel from your words an insenct - Ant energy". That that you sensed this proved that you still have your cubic centimeter of chance. Nevermind that the energy I actually sent was the equivalent of 4 suns going supernova simultaneously 6 inches from your nose, the fact that you sensed anything at all means all hope is not lost. If I could give you one bit of advice at this point on your path, it would be to align yourself not with the prehistoric seers of the past, (who were actually dinosaurs and now fish), as that would only make you all wet. Instead I would advise you to align yourself with the noble warrior Helen Keller, whose spirit can help you learn to see.
Namaste

[Mr Nagual]

Black Jaguar, the spirit of the nagual compels me to warn you before you get mixed up with this NagualHuman character. His is like the coyote, a trickster, but to you he may be deadly like snake. Be warned, for one of his clever tricks is to create multiple accounts and have them talk amongst themselves to lure others into his carefuly laid net.

Namaste

[Whatman]

Just meditate with your eyes closed. . .

[Black Jaguar]

That seems like a good to way to only become blind to all the evil of human and humanity doing at large, everyday.
Only viable way for sorcerer to achieve entering the mystery of Journey of Freedom through infinity is to become selfless, reflecting nothinghness and silence! Otherwise your inner dialogue will supress your true inner child ability to be allmighty and all power and there is no other way, beign double.

[NagualHuman]

All of you are gays.

[bit shiny]

yes warriors could appear as a cross between a poodle and a pit bull perhaps ,

poncing around and then trying to bite things that don't like them poncing around .

[bit shiny]

dream together

coming ?
wrong way

or right way ?
went into car

drove down a street

missed the turn

ended up with a drink in my hand and

a smile from stranger

asked for a sign

a crow was eating a mac donalds wrapper

and i saw a mac donalds wrapper

and then i saw you here

so i say hi

i liked that drink

and i liked the drive
and the crow told me its

going to be ok if i stick around and play
in the dream now

[Guest]