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An observation/question about power and stalking.
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I have been "trying" (ironic) to find more inner silence, and the perceptions that come from that state last week or so. I was...gratified to realise i was simply being how i was...as a child, when id wander the hills, when id simply see what was really there, it was the very foundation i had found and worked on so long ago. Why did that change...did it change? I saw yes and no. I started...reaching out more, at some point. the way it manifest was my loosing all my shyness and fear, and doing allot of public speaking, even if it was to talk history in history class, or physics in physics class, things i had learned not trying to. But the best was...speaking at the lions club, or the masons lodge about issues. I liked it....As invisable as i was, kinda messy, to stand infront of hundreds of older and better off people, and discuss lets say evolution and faith, the evolution of faith, to all the churchmen. And get a standing ovation. and the prizes were nice too. completely different people then me, connecting with not words energy. I realise i gained something from each of them, in the act. power. and the cash prizes were nice to lol. I notice dit again, when i spoke at my fathers funeral. Why i made that my main activity in college, debate, public speaking that sort of thing. Teaching, being a teachers assistant in that art. I realise now, from what i felt then, it was never about the words, it was about the seeing, the feeling, the exchange of energy.
      I have to admit, sometimes i get confused by it. By things. Well, some people say that its an individual thing...which is true, no one can teach you how to stalk, or see, without learning steps and ways to perceive that Move on to that ability. But as what point does that stop working? Some wise and accomplished people, two in Rf for example, absolutely baffle me at times. But not just them. Everything is about practices, lots of people are like that. But what are the point of the practices? seems like simple things. Stalking, finding power, is it more complicated then that? How does one find power, if they cant see power, or feel it, where it lives, in the world, or other people?  I hadn't thought it through, still havent thought it through, but that was in a roundabout way what i was talking about with watergaze. She was talking practices, and things learned in dreams. About not taking time to write social dreams now becasue he two are different one for the soul and one for well, like school. 2/3 f mine are social...more about interplay, and i noticed the people who confuse me don't see any value in them or that. Hah when you guys came in, to chat, it took my state up several notches to observing self and dynamics. I confused myself, the active mind part, saying to her that at some point social and practices, in time and space, far enough out are all the same thing as doing tasks. That point is what was in my silence of the past few days especially.
      I asked, said something to NLW the other day about this. After along stretch of silence that left me too energized to quite sleep. What good am i for him? What do i DO thats usefull. clearly im not drawing circles of salt and sending beams out my knuckles to make magic. But neither is Jake, or Daniel, Or Tiffany as far as im aware. I did say i felt...changed, better, enlarged in power, by simply being, what is needed, by people, which is what i really am regardless, different aspects, and each feels so enlarged and clarified in me. Is this interplay, in a  way, stalking power? Its nothing like doing magic from a book, or quoting dogma. Its more like...sewing painting happy faces on hacky sack balls. You know people keep them bouncing between them, higher and higher, intricate, a game, or lovemaking, and interplay. Like power...kinetic, in motion. Not locked in a book. ...is that right?
      And also i get back to being fired and rehired in dreaming this week. the luminous boss wanted perfected actions. No smoking, no eating red meat, impeccability. I just wouldn't do it...wasn't in my nature. And it was ironic, we both shone so bright next to each other. I know she wanted me to have more power, to hold more power. But... I get more powerful from you guys here. The more room i find to increase my contacts, the interplay, the more powerful i get, because its going all around, we all become more powerful.  I think this is what Jake.NLW meant when he said what i/we do...for him, as i could only see what he does for us. This has to be it right? He gives us tasks...but they aren't like do 50 hail marys. that would be an energy exchange too, but a less shared one. Thats why i shy away from those tasks....It makes one more powerful, but not really, because one is fixing their attention to the practice, the teacher, the other...becoming mor epwerfull as the thing fixated and attatched to gets more powerfull.  Is it better to find power all around, and intensify it, stalk/draw it out, not even as a challenge, with a laugh, or smile, or friendship? Sometimes the opposite too. Butt the nice way, see, people stay, and keep growing, more and more. Is that the purpose of the warrior friendly forums? Ive noticed when people depart for awhile, i feel that much less power. And when somebody disrupts those sheets of connections, it feels hard. When i took a test and got rehire din dreaming, it was these answers from that being silent i gave, in energy. So im asking now. I guess, the social, sharing, growing, tending, versus conjuring spells or practices. I seemed to feel the mechanical, or dogmatic practices was only to get tot he state where one could feel and share and grow in the other way. Am i wrong? I like the feedback. The more power thats ot be shared, the mor elove, and the more love, the more desire to protect and include, and be a better person, the person we/I are.  Making the group AP, the connections, more powerful, and growing from that. Not trying to just make ones self more inflated...mostly from ego, and therefore less powerfull. People throw self importance around allot ive noticed, but they tend to seem to miss the point in that way. Is it self importance to say we are more powerfull becsuse you are more powerfull, the nagual is growing so i am growing too? Truth...and its inclusive. Ego is exclusive right? So that seperation alows no growth, and one can only loose power to whatever trick they are foccusing on. You guys, my friends, only bring power, with your love. Maybe thats the short way of asking? lol.
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Ok - this is the forth time I have tried to respond to you.  My computer kept shutting down....well 2 times.   My third attempt to respond was full of such profound insight  (I am being sarcastic) that I hit some combination of keys that deleted my post.   LOL.....spirit is trying to tell me something.    I do not have any answers.   We are here together as a warrior party to fulfill the rule and keep our awarness after death.  That is our goal.   We support each other and fufill this destiny.   There is no correct "way" to do this and no one more important.  I have to stop now becuse my computer almost kicked me out again.   lol
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delawaredan wrote:Ok - this is the forth time I have tried to respond to you.  My computer kept shutting down....well 2 times.   My third attempt to respond was full of such profound insight  (I am being sarcastic) that I hit some combination of keys that deleted my post.   LOL.....spirit is trying to tell me something.    I do not have any answers.   We are here together as a warrior party to fulfill the rule and keep our awarness after death.  That is our goal.   We support each other and fufill this destiny.   There is no correct "way" to do this and no one more important.  I have to stop now becuse my computer almost kicked me out again.   lol
     that is a big part of what i was feeling, its not about the correct practice, or right trick or one person being greater then another. More general then just Wp but yea. We inspire and relfect and grow each other. Well, i would say  (but they might not) Jake/NLW is more important int hat he has the clarity and vision to walk the walk and the nagual link, as does RM/Tiffany as nagual man women, the foundation, the bit or grain that we grow around like pearls. but that also just means they have more to share, and the more we each grow to share then we all rise up. But yea, i agree. String of perls i like that, each as beautiful as the other. thats been a long going metaphore in my dreams, the strings of pearls. I stole one and gav eit to the wolves once, when they were denied by some know it alls. Hah funny in context that memory of that dream lol.
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Wow, I think all the deleting caused you to give the best response of all. No one is more important, its what we can do together, and as individual we fight with heart and soul to be the best, because we know our best is for the party, the party will replace the ego identity, and we do become more powerful as a result, but our aim is and always should be, imo, the group AP.
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well, i mean the self importance/refutation of the concept is part of it, and looking at it. But i was trying to say, we are all important to each other. And your power is my power, so take away one and the other is diminished. When ou power is out love and connection, how can you isolate and exagerate one piece and say this is me and mine. And vice versa, grow one and the whole is grown. Self importance doesnt realy enter into the equation but you guys saw that more in what i wrote then i did so maybe i need to go back to the non thinking drawing board on the perception. I meant to say i hav eno pwer, but the thing si find, mostly from you guys, or we change each other to do better. And all the rest was just being able to see and find that. Some comes form the universe too but its along the same principals.
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For the record, in terms of power I am more on par with you Andrew and you Dan. We will grow together. I do agree with you about Jake, he is a practicing sorcerer, and you both should seek a strong link with his double and probably you will witness his sorcery in tonal like I have, each in your own way which will be different than how I experience the link. And perhaps you will experience it in dreaming instead, or both? I just recall he recently expressed he hopes you get to know his double, and in my case, knowing his double is how I witnessed real sorcery, like talked about in legends. It's real, we are tangible as energy beings, all of us, not just Jake, but he happened to be born very powerful in the sense I feel much was already developed in him.
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Senear wrote:well, i mean the self importance/refutation of the concept is part of it, and looking at it. But i was trying to say, we are all important to each other. And your power is my power, so take away one and the other is diminished. When ou power is out love and connection, how can you isolate and exagerate one piece and say this is me and mine. And vice versa, grow one and the whole is grown. Self importance doesnt realy enter into the equation but you guys saw that more in what i wrote then i did so maybe i need to go back to the non thinking drawing board on the perception. I meant to say i hav eno pwer, but the thing si find, mostly from you guys, or we change each other to do better. And all the rest was just being able to see and find that. Some comes form the universe too but its along the same principals. 


Yes, I understood you were saying same as Dan was saying, it was clear, very much so. And I was just now reflecting, that was EXACTLY the mood of making those squishy balls, we were so equal, so united and our decision was the the decision of one being not 3. It was cool
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Yep...we were all in agreement. Jake has already shared much of his power with me and I am glad he is our Nagual Man. The group AP is the most important task....that is the only way we will keep our awareness, helping each other, beckoning each other.
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Oh ok hehe. Yes thats what i meant. I did some quick deflating internally there over self importance being the takeaway from what i wrote to be honest. Is that what people see and are telling me back. I apologize allot, and self censor if i think ill be prompted feel the need to apologize for something is say or think or do. My threshold is really low.  I might have become sad even but i remembered something Jake wrote recently and stood my inner ground against my worry. lol.
Actually what Jake wrote that came to mind, i noticed he edited it just today when i went to look back just now. but this is from that same thread...and also applies to hah my feeling just now.
NLW:
My belief on this subject is that where being humble doesn't get you anywhere. That a warrior IS indifferent. Yes.
That words do not hurt him. Yes.
That he doesn't take personal the stupid acts of men? Yes.
Why? Because he isn't at the mercy of his inernal dialogue.     I was starting to humble, or humiliate myself inside, my FI, because i THOUGHT it might be implied I thought i was speaking from self importance. which wasnt what was being said, but it made me fixate on that possibility. What i told msyelf and gav eme the will to repsond and admit this reaction was this. *** being humble! Bowing ones head and waiting for death is being humble. No one here is humble...I wnt to grow, like a tree, up and up. Humble redwoods are called bushes. lol. Bird in the hand is better then two in the bush of humility. lol  Walk hard
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Being Humble and losing self-importance are two different things. The warrior appears humble to others because he has no self-importance and if he begins to have self-importance he stalks it and laughs at himself and makes the correction. Power to do things like sorcery at first is 'fun.' Making things appear, affecting strangers, slowing or speeding time are things I would do when I was younger. I used to make people I didn't like trip or drop things (my bad side), I realized early if I gave them enough of bad intent I could make even worse things happened to people so that I had to curb after an incident. I used to slow down time so that everybody around me was barely moving and I could move much faster than them and get things done. Or speed up time so that I could make an event come quicker. I used to sit on a brick wall in the city and watch people and see their F.I.'s interact or draw them to me using only intent ( this I did with pretty girlsSmile. I could go on and on, but as a warrior gets older such sorcery seems trivial and only used in a emergency. These days I used my power to stay a step ahead of death which is always stalking. Performing sorcery is something I have done since I was a child but its sorcery that affects others, the world, or interaction with allies or other inorganics. Sorry no lighting out of the fist but with a wick of a finger I could beckon you or affect you in other ways. How? With intent. The power of intent is based on the connection with the nagual and the power to make it happen. This power comes from within by practicing the teachings of the naguals. One my be born with it as many are but it is there for all. I can lead you to power but you have to make the link.
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Lead the way then, and I will use all my power to make the link in the way you describe.
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