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The Raven Clan
There is two groups Ravenfield (western) Ravens Sky (eastern)
Intent
* Maintaining a Circle of dreamers in dreaming
* Grow and explore as warriors & dreamers
* Inspire, heal, empower and help each other
* Complete dreaming & warrior missions together
* Take on quests that comes to us from our dreaming
Missions
* These comes from what we dream or is pointed out by Spirit
If you want to join
send a PM and answer the following questions
Who are you?
Why will you join? (What do you wish to accomplish?)
What is you experience with dreaming?
What is your experience with shamanism and other paths?
Send to Eilias123 for the western group (america) and to Mornings Son for the eastern group (Europe)
Its not crucial that you have much experience, but you MUST participate and post.
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It isn't a dreaming Frat boy club.
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It isn't a dreaming Frat boy club.
LOL
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Since I am the new contact for the Raven dreaming group. I would really appreciate people considering to join, to please think a little more seriously before you send me your message. In essence, expect to be within the group at least a month to really get a feel whether or not the group is for you. Expect people to encourage you to dream there. Expect advice and light criticism from others, they mean no ill will, They are just trying to build a stronger group. Remember: Fear is the first Barrier a Warrior must overcome! So take it like a warrior.
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Perhaps this is a good place for this.
Stopping the world: My first experience with this was gazing at city traffic. For about 30 seconds, it became alien to me, as if I had never seen such a thing before. Now, I often see it as a perhaps a third world visitor to an American city might view it; not entirely alien, but very foreign.
Perception: Changes here are likely bringing me to Losing the Human Form; I believe that is the correct thing. This means that I find I no longer share perceptions about many ideas of reality that average human beings accept as fact. An example is Castaneda's 'Syntax' concerning the Big Bang. Where common belief is linear, ie: Beginning leading to End, I now accept the place of infinity, the circle or spiral of indigenous (such as Australian) thought, a concept which implies the unknown, as far as mortals are concerned. The idea of a beginning of universal existence becomes unlikely. Or, I could ask the question, 'what was there before God?' or 'what did God make the heavens and Earth out of?' Ha! I am in opposition to conventional rationality here, but on the path of insight and progress. I'm still like a kid asking too many questions.
The known, the unknown and the unknowable. All summed up in a simple phrase.
Dreaming: Many of my dreams tend to be violent. They are also complete, lucid events, as opposed to those which are flimsy. I admit flaws in my lifetime Tonal as the reason for this. But, the experience of adventure is intoxicating! Once, I was a bandit, looking for a place to hide in a city. On a more productive line, I have identified dreams of places and character that occur more than once. Some of these date to before I studied Castaneda. One sequence is new, and puzzles me. In these, I am in a rambling building, some parts of which are add on single-wide trailers. There are other people present, men and women, with whom I interact. We are trying to escape a tyrant. And the tyrant is unusual in the extreme! A male, he is young, looks to be Asian Indian, dark skinned. And, he appears to be pregnant. At least he has the distended abdomen of a preganant woman. He has the power to destroy by thought, but must become aware of our presence by sight or sound in the average manner. I don't know what this means, other than the Sci-Fi I read is invading my dreams! Asimov's Mule?
I have had two dreams of the informational type, although I learned they were contaminated by my self importance. By that I mean that the dream message was accurate, but I thought it was about me, when it was not.
Truly, the Nagual Warriors' path is a lonley one.
Any serious comment about all this is welcome. Lonewolf?
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Realizing the world and it misperceptions can be an awesome awakening. The draw of power decides an outcome if one is worthy of the nod of the nagual spirit. I await your nod Hawkeye.
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I find that there is no understanding of this kind of knowledge in the day-to-day world. Only here, and maybe a few others, is there a platform for progress in the ideas of the role perceptions play in creating our realities.
I have had a longtime interest in the science of semantics; words have emotional effect, consequences. Words and descriptions we accept as normal can distort our perceptions. My favorite gripe is the word 'supernatural'. I prefer the 'unknown', so that I am not seduced into worship of false gods.
The Nagual is a place beyond words and thought moulds, this is true.
The research on the unreliability of eyewitness testimony impressed me. We see what we want to see, or, as in the Susan Smith murder case (South Carolina some 12 years ago) , we behave as black sorcerers, to manipulate perceptions for self importance.
Well, it can be disturbing to be on the outside of social convention. Then again, I may have been in that place all along, anyway, and it becomes a matter of acceptance.
Any ideas about that dream I had, Lonewolf? That one's a puzzle to me. Pregnant Asian males?
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I can only say we ,you perceive images of perception as we all seem to do on this pat...gather your strength and go forward Hawkeye.
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As for dreaming - my progress report. There are many people in dreaming and waking life - that seem to make stopping my world their mission. My mother is one, neighbors is another. Some are even getting skilled at pointing at the ally in my attention. Saying, crows today just kept telling me as I was awoken by the daily crowd outside my apartment - just say your heart with your heart. So i'm 'going forward' with these commands to the items of a tonal, commands by the nagual. Egyptian book of the dead has some good words on these basic subjects too. For inorganic beings or other guardians including flyers - 'i know you and i know your name'. Name is like the sound that surrounds them, or directs you straight towards them. Anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_the_Dead
My biggest trouble is with the shift belowers. Miles from my home or work I can still taste them and hear their little worms. Anybody familiar with these?
Theyre like the tip of the serpent of the spine. They reside on the top of the head, almost like a thumb with a point for an eye. It's the tail on the 'four leaved clover' of the nagual's petals. Pertains to individuality and shift above or below, storing massive amounts of energy in its finer vibrations, also where the flyer finds its food. Anyways, probably got about five of these little guys laying down in me right now, maybe more. Clogging my eardrums, theyre incredibly strong, and they attack at the gap.
Greetings wolf. Saw an ad in the paper about land in Arizona - $89/mo. no credit check 1 and 2.5 acre lots. Know of any jobs available? It's a fancy place arizona, been once - LOVE the dessert, it's heartwrenching. Thinking about moving to Michigan, in Ohio currently.
Best wishes....
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Hi AS..as you would has lived in Mich and Ariz I can say they are both very different. Trees in Mich and saguaros cactus in Ariz. One can buy some nice land here these days and prices are down. The people here are from the midwest so being in Ohio you would find many here from that state..
I live out in the mountains and do not see many people and am far from any large city so I do not know about jobs or where is the best places to buy or live. Good to see you back!
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yea. assuming this trend will continue. population seems to be a little more spread out lately... cattle at slaughter?
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The dreaming is still on - you are welcome to join in.
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