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Half dream, half real
#1
When writing to the any forum I can not help but tell you a true story that happened to me in approximately the year 1983 wile on a bow hunting trip for deer in Newaygo,Mi.
I was hunting for deer walking down this trail on my way to a spot to sit because I was running out of daylight so I felt that it was urgent to find a spot quick and sit still and I run into the problem of finding a good spot so I settled to sit on the edge of this old dried up swamp I reluctently did becuase I got a really "bad" feeling about being there but I just ignored those feelings and just hunted out the evening there at that spot and I got really tired quickly and tried to stay awake and something instictively told me -"DO NOT FALL ASLEEP HERE" - but I did uncontrollably and I woke up and finished my hunt and went back to camp and built a fire and drank beer and smoke some really good hash and while or right after I took a really big hit of hash and past the pipe to the next person at night, next to the fire I had a head rush and pasted out next to the fire and I woke up back at the spot that I was hunting earlier where I feel asleep but it was totally dark at where I was and I turned in the direction of where I knew that I was passed out by the fire and thouhght about walking there but then I would bounce back and fourth at least 5 times perceiving from me being at the dried up swamp and me laying next to the fire and when I was laying on the ground passed out in front of my friends I remember telling them to leave me alone and that I was dreaming at being at the other spot and that they were interupting my experiance at shaking me to wake up and I was mad at them for doing so because I wanted to walk back to camp from the swamp and meet with my otherself.
I have some other true stories that involve this particular area that would make a good Steven King movie but I will have to tell you all some other time.
Aranno.
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#2
Spots such as you describe can be referred to as powerspots because they draw or contain links to power. Falling asleep in a powerspots usually does have the effect such as you describe and often will bring on the third attention. At least that is my assessment of the story.
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#3
There is many other accounts that I will talk about regarding that region, which was my playground on my path to learning and I'll elaborate later on other accounts.
Aranno.
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#4
lol maybe it was the hash!
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#5
Hello, Yes I was really good hash.
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#6
Finally! Another brother-in-double. That's great to hear about. So tell more about the here and here...do tell.
I'll share a little of how it felt when my daughter and her friend saw my double. I just remember being tired (like you) and really wishing I could do both chores at the same time (see the double post new here). I felt like I was floating while I was getting my clothes. What was really strange is the part about when my daughter's friend came into my room to get the phone..who didn't see me there...and I didn't see her either (the room is small). So even though I have no memory of being out at the stalls, I must've been invisible in my room for the instant she came in..
What I'm really curious about with your experience is if your friends noticed unusual things about you while it was happening.
No joke, it probably was really good hash..but DJ used the 'little smoke' a lot and I'll bet you there was a little THC in the mix! It doesn't negate the reality of your experience though.
In my experience there was no drugs, only extreme fatigue, which is similar in effects. However, the unique feature of my experience was that it was objective in that more than one person saw it happening and both witnesses were not the ones splitting in two..and neither girl was on drugs either..And now: back to your regularly scheduled (de)programming...
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#7
Here is a cut and paste from a post that I made that refers to the spot from the woods that my friend trying to subdue me with the F.E. in the woods and it took decades to get away from the fixation of their influence.
I'll post this and do a follow up on many other instances regarding this spot and my former friend, I still see him but he says he has no reason to associate with me anymore.
The dream that I'm going to mention happened March 04 of the year 2004 and before I describe the dream I feel a need to explain to you what led up to yhis incident.
A former friend of mine named Brian was a master of manipulation or deception at a very young age 15 and I was 13 years old, he started his pursuit by the use of hypnosis at first that he learned from his father -an example of what he did when I was young in 7th grade in school and he would come over to our house and show my other brother{I have 5 of them}and many friends how he would poke needles in his hand with no apparent pain because he would hypnotize himself not to feel any pain- and then he got involved with some very bad F.E. and used it for his advantage and try to use it to gain power over people and he succeeded very well until just a few years ago.
What happened is that he set up an permanent arrangement or marriage with some nasty **** and tried his best to use it on me to drain my energy along with everyone else to his liking or ability {predator style} to suck energy as a go between of his apparent associates and potetial prospects with the use of deception.
When I reached a certain point in my developement of awareness I knew what he was doing and what he did to me and I confronted him -It took nearly 28 years to do it that he was useing my energy and taking advantage of me,which I kinda knew all along but could not say anything with confidence until a couple of years ago.
I still deep down blame him for the death of my parrot.
When I confronted him about what he did, he did not deny it at all because I was so complete with what he did when I described it and he said that I was correct and that he could not help doing it because that was what he was used to doing and that he did not like it but the damage was done.
Just because I confronted him did'nt mean that the battle was done but only just the start of something else, he had his energy being and his F.E. associates transfixed around my every habit and life and I had to escape the stranglehold of the established friendship that we had and I was in for a real treat until my strong intent won.

The dream that was one of the deadly blows to him was one that I will now mention and that happened at the date stated above.
This dream was so pronounced when It happened that I wrote it down, something that I never have done until then.
"I had a dream that I was going to a YES concert,- which I really was at that time-and everyone was together except my brother Kevin 'not my brother Wakulla'.
The concert was scheduled on May 5,04 but for some reason it was that day instead so I tried to let my brother know about it by calling him at my MOM and DADS old house which was by Brians parents old house and while I was calling my brother Kevin and talking to him an unusual storm started with lightning and tornado and when that happened it triggered my dreaming attention and the lightning and the tornado hit right where their house was at, and I saw nothing but a blank abiss {blackness} where their house was and at that moment while talking to my brother Kevin,Brian was on the phone instead and I talked to him and told him not to avoid me or I could make his job miserable for him and then I proceeded to pinning him down by talking to him intellectually in a conversation because when I'm in my dreaming attention I think like I do now and that is having the same mental capacity like I'm writing to you now.
Our relationship or fixation was never the same after that dream.
He is now deathly scared of me to this day.
My brother Wakulla might want something to add to this subject as far Brian goes.

The spot where I mentioned while bow hunting under the subject half dream and half real is the same area where Brian contracted the detrimental foreign awareness that he is now currently stuck with for the rest of his life.
Aranno.
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#8
Since the weather is total **** here in Michigan and I can't hunt and fish I'm taking this time post some things that I feel an outside element that is in the form of the hush factor that always keeps me from posting instances or talking to people, and very few times do I feel liberated to freely talk about it.
Alot of times I would hunt in these very woods because you could do what you want as far as seeing no people,doing what you want and have a good time.
Most of the times that I would hunt there and when It got dark I would always see my dreaming colors in the woods {waves of flourecent purple and green color patterns flowing like I did about every night that I go to bed.

This is another post that I want to make is seeing your dreaming colors.
I thought that it was odd that I saw them in the woods and I always felt that I was getting to get lost even though I was walking on a familiar path and the fear of being lost always baffeled me while I was seeing my dreaming colors at that particular time.
Another brother of mine was brought to that particular spot and was being assulted by Brians f.e. friends but I did'nt at the time know exactly what he was doing at the time to him, my main concern was to walk in the darkness and walk to the spot at the dried up swamp and try to recover or recognize what transpired there.
I stayed there untill it got light out and I found a groved ax -an artifact found at that exact spot at the swamp and instinctively I buried it.
My brother that was there says to this day that, that was him most extrordinary experiance and he said he saw a white dove in the dark, I don't take description at face value because he does not know how to recognize F.E. influence,but neither did I at the time because this happened in 1987.
I've got some other story's to tell about this spot and remind me to do so because their is a hush element from the f.e. that I feel keeps me from saying anything about it, and I feel its good to talk about it.
I have'nt been hunting in those woods since the 1980's, but I go there now and then.
Aranno.
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#9
When remembering some of the things that we used to do in the woods of F.E. awareness I thought about times I would get with my friend brian that had a personal relationship with the F.E. there.
He would take me there and really did'nt realize at the time until years latter that he would summon the energy there and then lite off oxygen and acetylene filled ballons and explode them when they manifested and this became an obsession with him to the point that he would lite them off all the time at home or anywhere even at his place of employment that he got fired from many good jobs because he felt a need to explode the balloons of gas.
I think now that this was his defense against something that overtook him and with the use of explodeing balloons felt that he could break their fixation on him.
In my opinion that did'nt fix his problem but made it into something else.
After 911 he wanted to use my tanks of gas to fill balloons and said that he wanted to do it for fun and I laid the law down with him by not letting him useing my tanks for recreational fireworks.
Just last year he got fired at a place that made parts for aero-space and the military by explodeing oxy and acetylene balloons there in the facility.
I think his obsession was to let F.E. awareness manifest and let off a bomb.
He did this when I really was'nt aware of what he was doing because he was always so secretive and deceptive until I broke away of his influence of deception that all started when I just started growing hair down there around 12 or thirteen years old.
Aranno.
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#10
F.E.= ?
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#11
Hello Sil, I don't really know how to respond to F.E.=?
If you want I can describe them in grim detail if you want?
The fact is is that my old friend used to play with it thinking he was superior than them by taking advantage by useing them when all along he created an permanent arrangement with them and he tried his best to get anyone to get influenced with his predicament and served as a minion with me and my niece a couple of years ago until I put a stop to that.
Aranno.
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#12
OK, let me put it to you this way:
What the *** is FE? And "them"?
And, are you a role-player? Do you follow the tenants of sorcery or some rules off the back of a dungeons and dragons game set?And now: back to your regularly scheduled (de)programming...
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#13
im a role play that goes back 22 years to AD&D first edition ...
Mornings Son
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#14
F.E. that I refer to is Foreign Energy or inorganic beings that try to entrap your attention.
Sorry for that Sil, sometimes I need to be reminded to be clearer on my desciption.
Aranno.
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#15
Lately I have been on my key board and would enter into my dreaming state while making a post and fall asleeep in lucid attention and I wonder if it has effcted my posting content?
Some times its really hard for me to tell the differance at times since I'll be in the second attention.
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#16
I'm in the second attention most of the time while I type. In fact, how I can tell is how fast I can type. The faster, the deeper I am in the second attention...it's a direct relation.
If I try to think about what I'm typing or how fast or accurate I'm typing, I slip back into the first attention.
I know what you're talking about in other words. Good. It's an excellent way to overcome the forgetfulness that plagues us after our excursions into the second atten. You go into trance, write and it's all there later.
Sometimes when I go back and read what I wrote, I recognize it surely enough, but it looks like something I've read before that someone else wrote. Does that make sense?"The sceptics act as if they know for certain. It is an act, because there is no way for anyone to be certain about anything. The sceptic deludes himself with his false sense of clarity."
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#17
Sometimes when I post I just type it out just to get it out before the moment is lost and have a hard time to come back and explain it in detail some of the times.
For me it all depends on where my level of attention is at since for years my attention fluctuates in differant areas from the first attention and the second and feel awkward communicating with people.
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#18
Totally know where you're at. I'm there myself. Though I've noticed over the last two years or so I'm more often in the second attention than not. In fact it's been just since that slurry of my double being seen over the span of three or four years, that was about two years ago come to think of it..?
In fact, I think your reticence to discuss things with people may be a sign that you're more in the second attn. than you realize. That's one of the symptoms...."The sceptics act as if they know for certain. It is an act, because there is no way for anyone to be certain about anything. The sceptic deludes himself with his false sense of clarity."
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