dreaming from mind, or, dreaming in energy body

[shamanka]

a thread to explore the differences between mind constructed dreams and those that are totally energy based.



do you know the difference? and how do you know the difference?

[NagualHuman]

MIND=ENERGY=MATTER alll are lines of lines... are are interchangeable yet from OBJECTIVE perspectives of Subjects = animals, humans and some bartonellas.

There is fourth energy... I call it Light because for me it is in all of these Three, the Light I take as a base structure of universe which allows to actually interchange these three dimensions with just one...... and its called IMAGE, wheter it is image and you ask yourself... oh oh this is from there ? cool... oh oh this is from there ? Nope.... ah no!.
Its easier to have one base like adventurers in a jungle, they build a base camp from which they can move into all other directions, but still they need to get back to the basecamp to rest,sleep, write about their journeys and replenish etc.
If you will start looking at everything as ONE DREAMING ENERGY........ wheter it is SOLID OR FLUID.....your world will actually flow into itself, making you able to take these three as a points that are interconnected like roots yet they still grow into same place...

[angelfire]

NagualHuman wrote: If you will start looking at everything as ONE DREAMING ENERGY........ wheter it is SOLID OR FLUID.....your world will actually flow into itself, making you able to take these three as a points that are interconnected like roots yet they still grow into same place...Great, description NH.  I see them all working together, as well.  In essence they build upon each other, as they flow back and forth, becoming more succinct and fluid.  
Shamanka, what are your thoughts?

[Guest]

I vote same as the other two. It's one, not two.

The waking and dreaming minds are reflections of one another. You can't be badass in one and flimsy elsewhere. It's one continuous stream of energy. There is no difference.

[angelfire]

Kaomea wrote:I vote same as the other two. It's one, not two.

The waking and dreaming minds are reflections of one another. You can't be badass in one and flimsy elsewhere. It's one continuous stream of energy. There is no difference.Yes, Kao, you're absolutely right. You may find this related quote from wg of interest ....

watergaze:
"Self-stalking in Dreaming provides the ultimate insight into marrying both "mind-constructed" and "energy based" dreaming."

[shamanka]

so..someones mind construction,.(not necessarily dreaming awareness).can alter dream awareness..for say an 'unsuspecting' dreaming group then?

[NagualHuman]

Suspects are taken to custody by police....judges and other kinda mind constructed socialized behavioral dreaming=thinking
If you want to ask a question ask it straight you are just running around hot soup.

Construction=Awareness

Awareness build constructions=dreams....

The problem is you really dont know what the *** is dreaming and thinking......while in reality there is will and reason.......both create reality=construction both mind something.

[delawaredan]

Some of us do suspect and refuse to give our awareness to help reinforce another's fantasy realm.

[NagualHuman]

Why they should suspect ?
If "someone" thinks they suspect its just a mere reflection of the agenda that is behind, there is no fantasy... sad but truth.
There is only level of connection that can be established only through more connection.
No such thing as closing the door exist - only other value, some kind of interference... but is that bad ?
Bad... really ? I dont think so...

[Guest]