travel in dreams

[Blue totem]

Ok guys you have to help with this one.




When I dream, my double leaves my body and travels to other dream worlds, right? (our normal reality being a dream world, right...) Don Juan said sorcerers
consider there lucid dreams as real. I guess if you guys can meet in dreaming like you do, then it is a reality...




But if dreaming is real, why does it seem to be so fantastic and unpredictable? Do we create those dream worlds?


My dreams are just to fantastic, creative and crazy to be real... I`m having issues understanding all this.




Can you guys help me understand what is real and what is created by my imagination.


Is it possible that dreams are both imaginary and real at the same time?

[grandspeculator]

The reality of the dreams depends of the degree of awareness. At first our dreams are mostly subtle desires. As our awareness grows we find real, tangible
dream worlds that exist beyond us.




Dreaming is very real, but if the tonal is not properly polished, the dreams may be tainted by ourselves and outer forces.

[Mornings Son]

Blue




There is really strange places 'out' there


In dreaming there is a personal element added to what there is. Energy being converted to symbols and symbols to things, people and other beings.


This relates to the dreamers Tonal and level of dream awareness.




Matters from normal Tonal life can pop up. Recaping the day before going to bed is a good way to deal with that.




What is real?

[Bob May]

Blue




"There is really strange places 'out' there


In dreaming there is a personal element added to what there is. Energy being converted to symbols and symbols to things, people and other beings."




The Spirit speaks to the soul (subconscious mind) and the soul speaks to the person. It runs through "filters" so to speak and picks up both
Universal and Personal symbolism.


But there are real objective realities out there. We tend to color or interpret them in ways we can understand.




Can you guys help me understand what is real and what is created by my imagination.




I don't know, did what we wrote help?




Is it possible that dreams are both imaginary and real at the same time?




Yes! We take the real and put clothes on it. We use imagination to do that. And symbols. Words are symbols. So are letters.


Would you say that mathematics was not real because we cannot understand it or communicate it without letters and symbols?


Of course not.


And besides that, Letters and numbers are more than that. They are living beings. Realities in their own right.




If you ever met the Hebrew alphabet you would **** your pants.

[Blue totem]

So dreaming is imaginary and real at the same time. A kind of collective unconscious place... Spirit worlds..




Are there many places where dreamers go to? Any popular places where people gather?




thanks guys


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