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I believe stalking to be the requirement of those who are in control of their personal folly. People are taught to take life too seriously. Once a warrior becomes detached enough he realizes that he is much more than his body. As his awareness expands he thinks differently and this can make dealing with average people uncomfortable as they cannot understand his point of view. Thus the need to use stalking techniques to get the best of situations when dealing with people whose folly is uncontrolled.
The true stalker views people with the same detached eye that he views himself. He asks the question: How can I use this situation to my overall advantage? He then sets up situations between himself and people artistically and strategically so that no matter what may happen he comes out of the experience stronger, wiser and happier than he was before.
Like it or not, when dealing with a people who are dishonest with themselves you cannot always be honest. To do so will indeed cause friction and anger. Learn the lesson of Jesus Christ and see just what happens to one who is honest with a dishonest people. Unless a detached warrior uses stalking techniques and says what he must to get the best of every situation ESPECIALLY WHEN DEALING WITH PEOPLE he is doomed to a life of isolation.
Those who are serious about developing excellent stalking techniques need to do concerted research into the area of manipulating people to ones personal advantage. Successful salesmen do it and unless you are manipulating people to your personal advantage YOU WILL INDEED BE MANIPULATED BY OTHERS.
Books like: The Art of Mingling (Easy, fun and proven techniques for mastering any room) by Jeanne Martinet: ISBN 0-312-08316-5 can be essential to developing the art of saying what you must in order to get people to respond exactly the way you want them to. To be fair about this, one must develop techniques to stalk oneself and ones own weaknesses for the art of manipulating others is born of the art of manipulating oneself and those who manipulate others in ways they themselves would not want to be manipulated risk all kinds of detrimental backlashing hell. This is a lesson the fool Carlos Castaneda never learned.
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Do you realize, that when talking of persons of common interest like Jesus Christ, you seem to mistaken your own fate with the fate of everybody?
Stalking has nothing to do with cheating. Why don't you take Arrakis or Papillion posts from bbs for serious, or mine which go like
Quote Papillion:
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Corey, I suggest you do not ever again attempt to challenge Spirit as you did last night. The next time Spirit blasts you chances are it will much more powerfully devastating than you can imagine!
I truly feel you have done a great service by sharing all this counterpoint information about Carlos Castaneda. Whenever I encounter people in forums who treat the books about don Juan as the infallible Gospels of don Juan according to Carlos Castaneda I tend to cringe. From what you have shared Carlos had no qualms whatsoever about publicly ridiculing ((((ANYONE)))) who would treat his books as infallible inerrant religious material.
I say again: Corey, I sense that Carlos Castaneda is truly grateful for the essence of what you have done by sharing the SA information. If it were left to Cleargreen chances are the next generation of Cleargreen Tbers will be talking about Castaneda as though he was the second coming of whatshisface. Primarily for this reason Carlos deliberately gave in to his compulsive self-indulgent obsessions and told his lover Ellis to reveal everything.
In many ways you have done well and your efforts have not be in vain, Corey Donovan. You deserve to seek peace and pursue it and leave all this poisonous slander to the blind obsessively ignorant. Be happy, do what you know in your heart is good and remember:
THE DESIRE FOR SEX IS NOT A SIGN OF STRENGTH
TO NAGUAL NET BBS:
You do realize that when I was referring to people in posting forums who treat the books about don Juan as the gospel of don Juan according to Carlos Castaneda I was talking about some of you and the people at the Sorex site.
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Warrior Seer,
I don't know who or what you are responding to in your last post in this thread, but I feel compelled to respond. I hope you get it right, I'm elvana and I haven't got to do anything with Corey Donovan. I'm a woman and I'm living in Europe.
Maybe I felt someone should slap you in the face for insulting the Spirit's advice for the Art of Stalking. It's not the art of taking advantage but meant to practice the movement of the AP, and it's your point of view, if you decide to get religious about it. Well, I did some movements of my AP with these advises and I can tell you they are very hearty and they stem from knowledge.
For you to make sure, I do not approve of Carlos Castaneda's character. I only regard his writings to be a testimony of some Mexican's lineage report on sorcery. To me it is something that the Western culture lost with the Egyptians' decline. It is a lore that would have been lost to mankind if not reported by some anthropologist called CC.
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ELVANA QUOTE:
"Maybe I felt someone should slap you in the face for insulting the Spirit's advice for the Art of Stalking."
MY RESPONSE:
Those who are easily offended and upset are not very advanced people and this, no matter what book they may quote.
It's one thing to quote like some infallible book believer and quite another to put the lessons in your own words and in so doing demonstrate that you know what you are talking about.
If you think just saying how great you are proves anything...think again...and again...and again...and againetc....
Go slap the willie you wish you had
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I didn't talk of being offended, nor of being upset. I only talked of defending my point of view and taking something into consideration how to do that.
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Like it or not, you were defending the words of Castaneda as though they were the words of God himself. You parrot the teachings of others then threaten to slap me for not accepting them as the almighty gospel of Spirit.
Far be it for me to attempt to convince anyone that I am a master stalker. I admit that in the area of Stalking, from a don Juanian perspective, you most probably spin proverbial rings around me. So Im not trying to say that those word lessons on stalking are not useful, but to act as though they are the infallible inerrant words of Spirit is tantamount to being a blind infallible Bible or Koran believer.
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The words of CC were words that many needed to hear.
For this I am grateful.
Carlos will be remembered as the leading writer to start
the revolution of the human condition.
We all need to remember him for what he showed us but not so much his human traits and bouts with the F.I. Lone Wolf
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When I look through your noumerous posts, I always find words like Jesus Christ, God, and so forth. I hope you are not obsessive about that matter, which is very dangerous as Bin Laden has been revealing.
CC's writinn on stalking is very useful. Indeed. I'm far from being a master stalker. A master stalker ends up shapeshifting, sice he/she is able to shape his form according to the mood he/she is in, or vice versa the form accomodates to the requirements of the stalkers psychic disposition.
On some other reports of CC on sorcery I'm very critical, for example the way he itroduces allies to the reader. CC is very careless about the dangers that are connected to entering 2nd attention.
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ELVANA QUOTE:
"A master stalker ends up shapeshifting, sice he/she is able to shape his form according to the mood he/she is in, or vice versa..."
MY RESPONSE:
This is why I refuse to associate with religious people anymore. They can sound so nice and logical and then without warning they spring some weird off the wall thing they infallibly believe in. If I confront them as to the illogic of their belief instead of thanking me for pointing out the truth they tend to turn against me. You have made such a remark in my saved quote of yours.
You are acting as though you know many master stalkers who can shape shift and I strongly doubt you actually do know any. (((((I BELIEVE)))))) you are assuming that A master stalker ends up shapeshifting because you feel the words of Castaneda are infallible and inerrant.
If you actually do know master stalkers who can actually shapeshift and you have seen them do so on many occasions I sincerely apologize. If you have not I suggest you qualify what you write so that the readers can easily tell that ((((YOU BELIEVE)))) master stalkers can shapeshift rather than acting like you know this as an indisputable fact.
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As Lenin said: Believing is no knowledge (I hope the translation is correct), and I think Lenin was right at saying that.
Since you keep telling me I adore CC's books without criticism and questioning the value of their content, I will not tell you any of my storys I experienced with shapeshifting. You only would go like: Oh, I have to believe that.
Now you go, oh there are no such storys. I will tell them, but my heart doesn't feel like doing so right now.
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ELVANA QUOTE:
I'm far from being a master stalker. A master stalker ends up shapeshifting, sice he/she is able to shape his form according to the mood he/she is in, or vice versa
ELVANA QUOTE IN HER NEXT POST:
I will not tell you any of my storys I experienced with shapeshifting.
MY RESPONSE:
You seem to think I am a sleepy old goat like the other people who believe you without question. In one post you cannot shape-shift because you are far from being a master stalker and in the very next post you apparently have many stories of your experiences with shapeshifting. Sorry Juanita, you cant have it both ways. Either you cannot shapeshift because you are not a master stalker or you have stories of your experiences with shapeshifting.
If you would pull your fingers out of your ears as you think you might be able to think more clearly.
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Although I feel far from officially qualified, I will now give my assessment of the usefulness of the principles of stalking as outlined in the books of Carlos Castaneda. Lets begin by sharing those essential principles:
The 7 Principles of Stalking from Castaneda's book the Eagle's Gift:
1. Carefully choose your "battleground"
2. Discard everything that is not essential
3. Put your life on the line with every decision
4. Relax, abandon yourself
5. Enter a new mood of optimism, self-confidence
6. Compress time
7. Never push yourself to the front
MY COMMENTARY:
It is my belief that these principles are for maximizing efficient impeccability in all thoughts, words, actions and reactions towards the purpose of saving and storing as much energy as possible. I believe successful moment-by-moment living is the direct result of the proper use of energy. When concentrated and focused, like a magnifying glass focusing the rays of the sun, a person can become equally exhilarated and empowered by every action performed in the face of his or her impending death. A high level of consistent energy usually manifests itself in the form of energetic happiness and well-being. A low level of consistent energy usually manifests itself as slow, depressed and lethargic actions.
I am in the midst of setting up our living environment as a place of inspirational power. I see this house as a reflection of my hopes, dreams and overall state of mind. As such It has become equally important to me as everything else in my life for any action I may perform in the face of my impending death is just as important to my energetic level as any other action.
I see stalking as the act of successfully dealing with oneself. By successfully dealing with oneself a person paves the proverbial way towards successfully dealing with others. Just as if you cannot properly love yourself you cannot properly love others, if you cannot successfully deal with yourself you cannot successfully deal with others.
Many are those who treat themselves like trash. Their lifestyles are a testimony of abusive living devoid of the self-respect their bodies and minds deserve. They are devoid of wholesome abstract purposes in life. This means that they usually see themselves as small and separate from the universe. To properly stalk a person must have equal respect for him or herself and everything else equally. Successful stalkers must be moving towards the direction of a sense of harmonious oneness with the entire universe; being equally important to everything as a whole.
According to Castaneda's book The Power of Silence, there are four moods of stalking:
Ruthless
Cunning
Patient
Sweet
The balanced and successful stalker applies these moods in a fluid manner adapting to all situations equally as those situations require. To be easily offended by the acts of our fellow man and life as it unfolds is to become rigid, lose a sense of fluidity and to close oneself off and reject responsibility for the life entrusted to us. Facing the oncoming time of life as it unfolds rather than the receding time of life as we have judged it to be is crucial in living successfully and moving towards a harmonious and happy existence.
So, in the face of my impending death, the best way to wash dishes or clean the house in a manner that propels me inexorably forward towards greater strength and success in life is to do so in a manner that applies all these principles of stalking:
1. Carefully choose your "battleground"
2. Discard everything that is not essential
3. Put your life on the line with every decision
4. Relax, abandon yourself
5. Enter a new mood of optimism, self-confidence
6. Compress time
7. Never push yourself to the front
I remember reading how don Juan would conduct lessons on stalking when a person was in heightened awareness because he felt that it imbued staking with a mystique that it didnt really have. Stalking, according to don Juan, was successfully dealing with people. I tend to disagree. I believe stalking to be successfully dealing with oneself and as a result successfully dealing with people. Properly using the basic principles of stalking towards all thoughts, words, actions and reactions equally can transform any act into an exciting act of power.
How about we bring the stalking principles into an action most people can relate to. Namely: washing the dishes. Can you not see that washing the dishes does not have to be a meaningless and mundane chore having nothing whatsoever to do with being a successful warrior? When applying the principles of stalking to the act of washing the dishes it can be transformed into an act of power as exhilaratingly exciting as any other act of power.
Rather than just a sink full of dishes it can be transformed into the chosen battleground where energy will be channeled, focused, stored and harnessed. The determination to perform the job with powerfully impeccable precision that generates excited exhilaration rather than boring weakness becomes the abstract purpose making the process a magical act of power.
To transform the act into a magical act of power all thoughts and actions not essential to the act must be discarded and only those thoughts and actions essential towards a total victory in the warrior battle with oneself must be entertained and deliberately used.
Who is to say that you will not have a heart attack in the midst of the act of washing the dishes, eh? If you knew that it would be your last act on the face of the Earth the act of washing those particular dishes would be magical indeed. So to put ones life on the line means that in each and every moment you are ready for death to tap you. Properly done such an attitude makes all actions extremely powerful and exciting.
To relax and abandon myself as much as possible and enter a new mood of optimism means that I am the master of the act. No one in the world can convince me that some other act is more important than the one I am performing right now. I hurry without hurrying in order to compress time while entertaining a brand new mood of relaxed optimism secure in the victory over myself.
To me, the stalking principle never push yourself to the front means that if I push myself to the front I make myself more important than what I am doing. If I push myself to the front my self-importance will most probably cause me to complain and think of other things I would rather be doing thus destroying the victory I could have had if I kept myself in a position of equality to everything. Who in an actual war would be eager to push himself to the front, eh? To push oneself to the front is just asking to be killed. No, in a war a wise warrior will do his best to blend in with everything else thus making himself a much more difficult target to pinpoint.
The only way I have found to transform an act like washing dishes into a real and exhilarating act of power is to compress time by accelerating the velocity of my actions to the point where I am moving as fast as I possibly can without splashing soapy water all over the place. Unless I compress time chances are I will give myself too much time to think of other things I would rather be doing. Once I surrender to such thoughts I automatically push myself to the front and strip the act of all the magical power it would have had.
In order to master my thoughts the moods of stalking are always applied and shifted in a fluid manner deliberately done as required to make any act magical and excitingly powerful. So being
Ruthless
Cunning
Patient
Sweet
is essential in mastering myself and my thoughts so that all actions are transformed into acts that are equal in the face of my impending death.
Whenever I do not treat each and every act as a warrior stalking maneuver I sacrifice my energetic happiness and well-being in the process. If I was always determined to properly stalk myself and live like a successful warrior I would be much happier and that happiness would grow in direct proportion with my concentrated refined determination for that happiness to grow.
I am preparing to apply the principles of stalking towards cleaning the fish tank. That is the battlefield I have now chosen.
SPECIAL EDIT:
I believe there is at least one more principle of stalking that was left out of the 7 shared by Carlos Castaneda:
STALKING PRINCIPLE #8:
In all movements and actions
strive to be extremely centered and properly grounded
in a fluid and relaxed manner
COMMENTARY:
If a person is not properly balanced/centered and deliberately grounded he or she cannot function at his or her best. Each act should be treated as an exhilarating battle for ones life and energy should be pulled from all directions equally (from below the feet as well) and stored with ruthlessly impeccable precision. To be off balance and not properly grounded when performing any act diminishes the effectiveness of that act.
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I have noticed that I find myself laughing more and more when I am among people. I think of something I heard or read somewhere: There is no indication that life is meant to be taken seriously. I could be wrong, but I believe that phrase came from something Carlos Castaneda saw and relaying in the Time Magazine article about him.
People are truly silly and funny looking, myself included. I feel I look rather ugly until I go out among humanity. Man oh man are most people ugly. Its funny how, since I no longer need or want sex, I very, very rarely ever see a woman who I would even remotely consider having sex with. My personal power has been refined and is becoming cleaner and cleaner all the time. Why would I want to pollute that energy with a woman who has spent no apparent time deliberately refining and cleansing her personal power?
In order to truly consider wanting to have sex with a woman I must want to exchange a certain portion of energies with her. Its amazing how there are no women I have seen who I would really want to exchange energies with. I dont need low-grade energy and that is what human energy is if it is not deliberately refined and cleansed. Its interesting indeed!
THE DESIRE FOR SEX IS NOT A SIGN OF STRENGTH
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I like your rule#8 Warrior Seer.
I will add one rule also:
Never indulge in anything.
Not sex or thoughts of sex,not food,not booze.
Not in money or making money.
Not in music or in computers,not
even yourself!
Lone Wolf
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To advance upon the stalkers principles in theory is the best I can do at the moment. I wont pretend that, as an American, I never indulge in anything. Where to draw the line between enjoyment and indulgence that is harmful to the being is a mystery to me. Id say I am guilty of indulging on many fronts. I would attempt to excuse myself by saying that I live in a society of people who are psychologically programmed to indulge, but that is just a cheap excuse. So what I am writing here on stalking is what I feel are the ideal observations towards applying the principles to moment-by-moment living.
Moving quickly enough in order to keep from pushing oneself to the front does not mean to rush through a task. I believe you will know if you are rushing because you will lose the sense of invigoration that comes from moving fast enough to keep ones thoughts equal to everything and fully immersed in whatever task the stalking principles are being applied to. I believe that proper stalking transforms each and every task into a magnificent work of art. As a matter of fact I would go so far as to say that, properly done, stalking techniques transform life into a magnificent work of art with each and every microcosm of movement a Sacateca dance of power.
I recently did what I felt was my best to apply the ideal principles of stalking to cleaning the fish tank. Do I feel I fully succeeded? No. There were times when I moved too fast and effectively pushed myself to the front and there were times when I moved too slow and effectively pushed myself to the front. I now see that the velocity of motion in a stalkers task must be fluid and continually adjusted in order to keep from pushing oneself to the front and losing the sense of a magical task through thinking thoughts that strip the act of its magic. Is part of me tempted to feel that attempting to apply these stalking principles towards the transformation of my moment-by-moment existence are all in vain? Yes. Unfortunately, I must admit that all the improvements I have made have come from slowly tightening up the loose ends of my life by slowly applying the stalking procedures to everything I do; and this, whether I directly realized it or not. There is no turning back for there is no back to turn to.
Those who treat the books about don Juan as the gospel of don Juan according to Carlos Castaneda will most definitely disagree, but I still say that
Stalking is
successfully dealing with oneself
in order to successfully deal with others.
If you cannot properly deal with yourself
you cannot properly deal with others.
A truly successful stalker
Becomes the ultimate as an excellent worker
No matter what job he or she may perform
If don Juan and his party were warriors of some obscure and abstract freedom then I am a warrior of reaping the most wonderfully satisfying and happy life possible for a human being. I find this goal much more motivating than using the misty and obscure idea of my death as a motivational factor towards successful living. I am not going in the same direction don Juan and Carlos Castaneda purportedly were. They were ruthlessly striving to reach some obscure abstract goal that they could not properly define. My goals are much more real and tangent and becoming more powerfully clear and focused all the time. In my opinion, my goals for successful living are far more real and attainable than the misty and uncertain goals of don Juan and Carlos Castaneda. There is no indication that Carlos or any of the witches associated with him ever attained their goal of freedom. As a matter of fact, as the inner information comes to light, Id go so far as to say that no one should follow the path Castaneda took. At best we should use don Juans lessons, as Bruce Lee would put it: Like a finger pointing to the moon. Dont concentrate on the finger least you miss all that heavenly glory. Instead concentrate upon where the finger is pointing and continually reach for absolute victory without sacrificing your moment-by-moment happiness in the process.
Total victory in life
is not so much for those who are talented
as it is for those who are ruthlessly focused on their goals in life
and refuse to give up.
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The following comes from the website of Howard Lee, better known as H.Y.L. from the dedication to him in the beginning of the book The Fire From Within by Carlos Castaneda. For the sake of emphasizing the point I intend to make let me share that exact dedication as it appears in my original first edition copy of the book. Interesting how all the words in this dedication are in capital letters. Cant remember ever seeing book dedications to people all in caps:
I WANT TO EXPRESS MY ADMIRATION AND GRATITUDE TO A MASTERFUL TEACHER, H.Y.L., FOR HELPING ME RESTORE MY ENERGY, AND FOR TEACHING ME AN ALTERNATE WAY TO PLENTITUDE AND WELL-BEING.
Unless I am mistaken this Light Of Life Energy is what Howard Lee has been all about since the time Castaneda was his student. When I directly contacted the Howard Lee office his secretary wrote me back telling me that indeed Carlos Castaneda was a student of Howard Lee for about ten years, but was never brought into the Induction Experience that, according to what is written on Howards site is surprisingly easy.
According to what I am sharing here: It is surprisingly easy to become initiated into the Energy - you just come to an "Induction of Energy" workshop and "get it."
So are we to believe that Castaneda was a student of Howard Lee for TEN YEARS and was not able to go through the Induction Experience that is supposedly surprisingly easy for anyone coming to a workshop on the process for the very first time??????? If that does not say something about how Howard Lee felt about Carlos Castaneda then nothing does.
I cant help feeling that if I had ever attended a lecture of Carlos Castaneda I would have walked out on him sooner than I walked out on Florinda Donner Graus lecture.
www.thelightoflife.com/eng/aboutNRG.html
What is The Light Of Life Energy?
The Light of Life Energy is a synergy of benevolent frequencies - an elixir of energy currently entering our earth's atmosphere and flowing forth to whomever requests it.
Grounded in an entirely nonsectarian energetic process, the Energy is best understood as a potent spiritual additive to our basic life force, enabling us to transcend the limitations of everyday consciousness and achieve cellular levels of healing, transformation and awakening.
"Such an influx of external Energy is necessary to stimulate the transformation we are all seeking," Howard points out. "My role is to serve as conduit for this Energy so that whoever wants it, can access it - with absolutely no strings attached."
The Induction Experience
It is surprisingly easy to become initiated into the Energy - you just come to an "Induction of Energy" workshop and "get it." Most people feel they must go through time-consuming laborious processes to access energy, that it can't be too easy, too quick. However induction into the Energy is in reality both immediate and effortless.
In the ultimately important first workshop, Howard establishes a particular energetic forcefield which introduces students to a multidimensional state of consciousness where their higher self is instantly attuned to the precise Light of Life energetic frequencies.
Nurturing the Flame
After the induction experience on the higher planes beyond normal consciousness, Howard teaches the basic "Induction of Energy" Movement Pattern, a remarkable short moving meditation which enables us to regularly tune into the Energy on our own, uniting the physical and energetic bodies.
In essence, Howard serves as the energetic "pilot light" for igniting the spiritual flame within us. "What I'm doing deep down is providing the essential added energy to dust your link with Spirit," Howard sums up.
Reaping the rewards
The rewards that flow into our lives through nurturing this link are myriad: our physical and emotional health becomes vital and clear of debilitating energy imprints; our capacity to spread love and clarity in our family and community expands; our renewed balance and groundedness allow us to develop more harmonious personal and business relationships, thus transforming the world around us.
At primal cellular levels, this Energy is a rejuvenating ambrosia which enhances youthfulness, beauty and longevity.
Creative benefits
On the deepest DNA level, the Light of Life Energy awakens latent talents we each are prenatally imbued with, as well as providing a continuing source of support to maintain and expand this creative flow.
The Energy also has the power to clear temporary creative blocks that one encounters due to the stresses and vicissitudes of life, and to dramatically enhance the effectiveness of whatever talent, work or service we are involved in.
Transformational Power
Energy is required to maintain the vital link between everyday consciousness and Spirit. Our personal advancement into deeper harmony with Spirit can be profoundly accelerated through opening to an influx of the Light of Life Energy. The Energy facilitates the release of negative emotional and energetic imprints, both past and present - freeing us to develop spiritually.
www.thelightoflife.com/eng/aboutNRG.html
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FROM A HOWARD LEE INTERVIEW:
http://www.thelightoflife.com/eng/inter ... mitri.html
"My nature is such that I do not really like to pursue people's private business other than what they are willing to tell me, so I never knew who he was in terms of the person who wrote those famous books until many years later, when he acknowledged my help in the book Fire from Within. Even then, it was a year after that book was published before I found out about the book and the acknowledgment. Subsequently, he brought me all of his books and I read them. They have profound value in terms of the teaching.
Remembering Castaneda's school days, was he a good pupil?
Carlos was always very respectful. He was very attentive. He was very diligent in terms of his practice in the Kung Fu class and he always tried hard. He had some limitations in terms of coordination, but so do other people. He was more than just a student, he was a friend.
Some years after he first came to me, he told me that he had known about me before he came for help. Someone had told him that there was some guy in L.A. teaching Kung Fu who talked like Don Juan, for whatever that's worth (laughing).
He mainly studied martial arts with me, and among other things informally some healing and stuff. But he never did learn the Light of Life procedures, because he was gone before I remembered how to induct others into the Light of Life energy."
MY COMMENTARY:
We are left to speculate as to whether or not "gone" in this sense means stopped learning from Howard or "gone" as in dead. Still, I may be wrong in my assumptions in this matter. I do not pretend to be infallible.
From what I remember reading about Howard Lee in the SA information (I believe) Mr Lee had trouble with people associated with Carlos who were coming to his classes energetically damaged from their personal associations with Carlos Castaneda. Of course, Howard would say nothing bad about Castaneda on his website. Howard is obviously not a ((((CORPSE KICKER)))). Besides, why should he make enemies of Castaneda fans? After-all, having Castaneda as his student was eventually a good way to attract more students. By sharing his admiration for H.Y.L with all his fans Carlos was effectively sending them all to a greater virtual don Juan than he obviously was.
It can be easy
for cowards to kick corpses
as corpses cannot effectively kick back
Putting all things together it becomes quite clear that don Juan's lessons must be supplemented in order to bring peace and well-being to those who would apply them to their lives.
Reading the gist of what Howard Lee believes and the gist of what I believe I find that we are not so very different. In juxtaposing the best of what don Juan had to teach with what Howard Lee is teaching I sense that if there were no parallels of overlapping importance Carlos Castaneda would not have remained a student of Mr Lees for so many years. Ten years is a long time to be a student of anyone and Howards influence inspired, what I feel are, Carlos greatest books to supplement his earlier works. Namely: The Fire From Within and The Power Of Silence. From that point on he went downhill as a person for The Art Of Dreaming and The Active Side Of Infinity are two of my least favorite Carlos Castaneda books. So since Howard Lee says that he did not know about the dedication for a year after the book was published I feel it is safe to assume that Carlos was well into writing The Power of Silence before he stopped being a student of Howard Lee. I feel that by the time Carlos began writing The Art Of Dreaming he was no longer a student of Howard Lee.
My writings in these posting forums are quite different from most who frequent them. People are usually in these various forums either to kill time or show off what they know. I am here to find all the weakest aspects of my beliefs in order to strengthen and amplify the usefulness and three-dimensional functionality of what I believe. I am not here attempting to be anyones teacher or savior in any sense of the word. If counterpoint commentary reveals a weakness in my beliefs or an out and out falsehood I will be extremely grateful and publicly acknowledge the correction to my beliefs and a congratulations to anyone who has been of assistance in helping me to correct and adjust those beliefs.
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To once again countermand the slanderous author DeMille, who wrote and effectively destroyed Castanedas credibility with the academic community, it must be remembered that Carlos first book was his master thesis in college (I believe). All the rest of Castanedas books were not directly written to pacify the academic community so much as to sell books. THAT IS A BIG DIFFERENCE! Castaneda cannot be blamed for taking liberties and augmenting the interesting aspects of don Juans teachings by making the reality surrounding the teachings more interesting. There is quite a bit of evidence that the Biblical teachings of Jesus were augmented by people who took liberties with reality in order to make those teachings more appealing to the reader. Ive not met a person yet who can indisputably prove that Jesus actually walked on water. Yet, how many people use that wild story as proof that the lessons of Jesus are useless? Just as the best of don Juan, the best of the lessons of Jesus prove themselves through direct application in moment-by-moment living.
Oh, this DeMille character did indeed make money brainwashing people like Corey Donovan into his view that literary characters must be real in order for the lessons imparted to be truly useful. Corey/Jeremy Donovan and their types come into this forum caring nothing about what is useful. Slander is all they are interested in. People like this are among the doomed and the damned.
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As I heard don Juans explanation I got terribly worried. Even though I had never considered myself to be a practicing Catholic, I was shocked by his blasphemous implications. I had been politely listening to him, yet I had been yearning for a pause in his barrage of sacrilegious judgments in order to change the subject. But he went on drumming his point in a merciless way. I finally interrupted him and told him that I believe that God exists.
He retorted that my belief was based on faith and, as such, was a secondhand conviction that did not amount to anything; my belief in the existence of God was, like everyone elses, based on hearsay and not on the act of seeing, he said
What he had said put me in a state of great distress. But he seemed unconcerned with my genuine turmoil. He kept on needling me with what he called the unforgivable crime of the chance seers, which makes us focus our irreplaceable energy on something that has no power whatsoever to do anything. The more he talked, the greater my annoyance. When I became so annoyed that I was about to shout at him, he had me change into yet a deeper state of heightened awareness. That blow sent me soaring into a radiant light, into a diaphanous source of the most peaceful and exquisite beatitude. That light was a haven, an oasis in the blackness around me.
From my subjective point of view, I saw the light for an immeasurable length of time. The splendor of the sight was beyond anything I can say, and yet I could not figure out what it was that made it so beautiful. Then the idea came to me that its beauty grew out of a sense of harmony, a sense of peace and rest, of having arrived, of being safe at long last. I felt myself inhaling and exhaling in quietude and relief. What a gorgeous sense of plentitude! I knew beyond a shadow of doubt that I had come face to face with God, the sourse of everything. And I knew that God loved me. God was love and forgiveness. The light bathed me, and I felt clean, delivered. I wept uncontrollably, mainly for myself. The sight of that resplendent light made me feel unworthy, villainous.
I passionately resented what don Juan was saying; I rebelled against his blasphemous, sacrilegious words. I wanted to tell him off, but I could not break the binding power of seeing. I was caught in it.
It was at that point that I realized something about the voice in my ear. It was not don Juans although it sounded very much like his voice.
As I gazed into the light with all the passion I was capable of, the light seemed to condense and I saw a man. A shiny man that exuded charisma, love, understanding, sincerity, truth. A man that was the sum total of all that is good.
The fervor I felt on seeing that man was well beyond anything I had ever felt in my life. I did fall on my knees. I wanted to worship God personified, but don Juan intervened.
--From Carlos Castanedas book The Fire From Within
MY COMMENTARY:
So dont any of you people
Try to convince me that Carlos Castaneda
Had no love for God!
I challenge anyone
To find any place in any of Castanedas books
Where Carlos speaks as glowingly well
About homosexuals!!!!!!
Sharing the truth is not "gay bashing". Carlos obviously adored beautiful women no matter what he purportedly said. There is no indication that he adored homosexuals and that is the God's honest truth!
Sharing the God's honest truth is not "gay bashing".
Christians are proud of being so and I feel that homosexuals should be ready to defend the 'virtue' of their beliefs. Unfortunately, there is no virtue to homosexuality that I can see. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Castaneda's love for God was obvious no matter what Corey may say. Corey Donovan does not know what the hell he is talking about!
Think about it. There is no way Castaneda could have put down homosexuality without angering the entire world-wide gay community. The only way he could do so was to put down sex altogether.
Tantricas would agree that sex is sacred and must be done in specific manners if it is to have any worthwhile benefit to the being. Carlos was obviously putting down indiscriminate sex with no intent other than indulgent self-gratification and any wise person would be correct in doing so!
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I feel more strongly than ever that sex just for the sake of self-indulgent gratification is detrimental to the being. Corey would have us all believe that Carlos Castaneda had no love for God. Castanedas works speak otherwise.
There is no indication that Castaneda had any real love for homosexuals and as Corey was a homosexual at the time he ASSociated with Carlos Castaneda I would not place much trust in Coreys view of the Castaneda situation.
I did not want to write everything in that segment of Castanedas The Fire From Within as there was much to write. All that mattered was how Carlos reacted to the blasphemous statements don Juan was making. That was all that was required to make my point.
I say again:
The desire for sex
is not a sign of strength
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I challenge
(((ANYONE)))
to defend the virtues of homosexuality
I say (((There Are None)))
To give in to homosexual desires
is not something to be proud of
Because it is a sign of weakness
Not strength
Ellis who was Castanedas purported lover
For many years has stated
That Carlos was homophobic
Since his cavorting with many women
And no purported gay experiences
Tend to support this revelation
Who can possibly fully trust
The jilted lovers view of
Carlos Castaneda
As revealed by the gay Corey Donovan?
Its a simple matter of logic
You dont fully trust the revelations about a black man
Shared by a white supremacist
And you dont fully trust the revelations about
a homophobic person
Shared by a homosexual
Logic wins
Case closed
Corey Donovan loses again
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This is not a matter of gay bashing
This is a matter of the (((TRUTH)))
The Sustained Action/Sustained Reaction sites
Are sites established by a gay person
Bashing the works of Carlos Castaneda
Who Carlos lover reveals was homophobic
You people keep this in mind
As you decide whether or not to blindly believe
The revelations of Corey Donovan
Against Carlos Castaneda
Corey and his kind are angry because Carlos as a leader
Let them down
SHOW ME WHERE IN THE WORKS OF CASTANEDA
THAT HE EVER PRESENTS HIMSELF AS
A SUCCESSFUL LEADER
WHO WOULD NOT LET
ALL THOSE FOLLOWING HIM DOWN!!!!!
These Corey Donovan revelations of
Castanedas Indulgent and obsessive ways
Only serve to prove that Carlos
Was being honest
In the portrayal of himself in his books
(((REMEMBER THIS))):
CARLOS CASTANEDA
WAS NO DON JUAN!!!
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So I share the obvious truth and who really cares? I get persecuted by the perverted and the delusional and does it really matter? Not at all! What fools think of me is quite irrelevant. I create these posts in the hopes that those wiser than myself will point out the flaws in my reasoning and am more than willing to congratulate those who would do so. This is one of the main things that separates me from most everyone who posts in forums of this nature. When the flaws in their views are clearly pointed out they either go silent and act as though they never said anything or they threaten to ban me. What do I gain from those few who congratulate me? Not much. As a matter of fact I usually gain nothing in the way of improvement to my being. Congratulated for still being too weak and too ignorant to apply all the principles I share is not as wonderful as it might seem to some. I do not pretend to be something I am not. I share myself as I currently am and reach for even greater improvements with each and every moment.
I am not here to make friends or kiss up to anyone. I am here to effectively write my reality into being. Yes, this is a sorcerer warrior task that I am indeed advancing upon. On the Vortices thread I share signs and omens from Spirit that are more than just the fantasy of an overactive imagination.
Does this mean that you should
Believe everything I write as
The Gospel Truth?
Should you believe
What (((anyone))) writes
As the Gospel Truth?
I say only fools do so
And usually eventually
Deeply regret it!
I suggest you all think for yourselves and not allow anybody or any religion or any power or principality to do your thinking for you! Reach for the best in life while preparing for the worst and chances are youll be ready for anything.
So did Carlos Castaneda lie? Chances are yes indeed he did. Have you ever lied to make yourself look better than you actually are? Chances are you indeed have.
Let those who have never lied
Throw the first stones at
Carlos Castaneda
Chances are many of the miracles of Jesus recorded in the Bible are lies and never actually happened. Does this at all cancel out the good and useful in what Jesus purportedly taught? Only fools will say yes and yet fools take this same ignorant attitude towards the lessons of don Juan!
So what would you rather have?
A don Juan you know is real,
Who has nothing worthwhile to teach?
Or, a don Juan who may be fictional,
Who has an incredible amount of
Good and wholesome things to teach?
Choose now or forever hold your ignorance
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Although I feel far from officially qualified, I will now give my assessment of the usefulness of the principles of stalking as outlined in the books of Carlos Castaneda. Lets begin by sharing those essential principles:
The 7 Principles of Stalking from Castaneda's book the Eagle's Gift:
1. Carefully choose your "battleground"
2. Discard everything that is not essential
3. Put your life on the line with every decision
4. Relax, abandon yourself
5. Enter a new mood of optimism, self-confidence
6. Compress time
7. Never push yourself to the front
MY COMMENTARY:
It is my belief that these principles are for maximizing efficient impeccability in all thoughts, words, actions and reactions towards the purpose of saving and storing as much energy as possible. I believe successful moment-by-moment living is the direct result of the proper use of energy. When concentrated and focused, like a magnifying glass focusing the rays of the sun, a person can become equally exhilarated and empowered by every action performed in the face of his or her impending death. A high level of consistent energy usually manifests itself in the form of energetic happiness and well-being. A low level of consistent energy usually manifests itself as slow, depressed and lethargic actions.
I am in the midst of setting up our living environment as a place of inspirational power. I see this house as a reflection of my hopes, dreams and overall state of mind. As such It has become equally important to me as everything else in my life for any action I may perform in the face of my impending death is just as important to my energetic level as any other action.
I see stalking as the act of successfully dealing with oneself. By successfully dealing with oneself a person paves the proverbial way towards successfully dealing with others. Just as if you cannot properly love yourself you cannot properly love others, if you cannot successfully deal with yourself you cannot successfully deal with others.
Many are those who treat themselves like trash. Their lifestyles are a testimony of abusive living devoid of the self-respect their bodies and minds deserve. They are devoid of wholesome abstract purposes in life. This means that they usually see themselves as small and separate from the universe. To properly stalk a person must have equal respect for him or herself and everything else equally. Successful stalkers must be moving towards the direction of a sense of harmonious oneness with the entire universe; being equally important to everything as a whole.
According to Castaneda's book The Power of Silence, there are four moods of stalking:
Ruthless
Cunning
Patient
Sweet
The balanced and successful stalker applies these moods in a fluid manner adapting to all situations equally as those situations require. To be easily offended by the acts of our fellow man and life as it unfolds is to become rigid, lose a sense of fluidity and to close oneself off and reject responsibility for the life entrusted to us. Facing the oncoming time of life as it unfolds rather than the receding time of life as we have judged it to be is crucial in living successfully and moving towards a harmonious and happy existence.
So, in the face of my impending death, the best way to wash dishes or clean the house in a manner that propels me inexorably forward towards greater strength and success in life is to do so in a manner that applies all these principles of stalking:
1. Carefully choose your "battleground"
2. Discard everything that is not essential
3. Put your life on the line with every decision
4. Relax, abandon yourself
5. Enter a new mood of optimism, self-confidence
6. Compress time
7. Never push yourself to the front
I remember reading how don Juan would conduct lessons on stalking when a person was in heightened awareness because he felt that it imbued staking with a mystique that it didnt really have. Stalking, according to don Juan, was successfully dealing with people. I tend to disagree. I believe stalking to be successfully dealing with oneself and as a result successfully dealing with people. Properly using the basic principles of stalking towards all thoughts, words, actions and reactions equally can transform any act into an exciting act of power.
How about we bring the stalking principles into an action most people can relate to. Namely: washing the dishes. Can you not see that washing the dishes does not have to be a meaningless and mundane chore having nothing whatsoever to do with being a successful warrior? When applying the principles of stalking to the act of washing the dishes it can be transformed into an act of power as exhilaratingly exciting as any other act of power.
Rather than just a sink full of dishes it can be transformed into the chosen battleground where energy will be channeled, focused, stored and harnessed. The determination to perform the job with powerfully impeccable precision that generates excited exhilaration rather than boring weakness becomes the abstract purpose making the process a magical act of power.
To transform the act into a magical act of power all thoughts and actions not essential to the act must be discarded and only those thoughts and actions essential towards a total victory in the warrior battle with oneself must be entertained and deliberately used.
Who is to say that you will not have a heart attack in the midst of the act of washing the dishes, eh? If you knew that it would be your last act on the face of the Earth the act of washing those particular dishes would be magical indeed. So to put ones life on the line means that in each and every moment you are ready for death to tap you. Properly done such an attitude makes all actions extremely powerful and exciting.
To relax and abandon myself as much as possible and enter a new mood of optimism means that I am the master of the act. No one in the world can convince me that some other act is more important than the one I am performing right now. I hurry without hurrying in order to compress time while entertaining a brand new mood of relaxed optimism secure in the victory over myself.
To me, the stalking principle never push yourself to the front means that if I push myself to the front I make myself more important than what I am doing. If I push myself to the front my self-importance will most probably cause me to complain and think of other things I would rather be doing thus destroying the victory I could have had if I kept myself in a position of equality to everything. Who in an actual war would be eager to push himself to the front, eh? To push oneself to the front is just asking to be killed. No, in a war a wise warrior will do his best to blend in with everything else thus making himself a much more difficult target to pinpoint.
The only way I have found to transform an act like washing dishes into a real and exhilarating act of power is to compress time by accelerating the velocity of my actions to the point where I am moving as fast as I possibly can without splashing soapy water all over the place. Unless I compress time chances are I will give myself too much time to think of other things I would rather be doing. Once I surrender to such thoughts I automatically push myself to the front and strip the act of all the magical power it would have had.
In order to master my thoughts the moods of stalking are always applied and shifted in a fluid manner deliberately done as required to make any act magical and excitingly powerful. So being
Ruthless
Cunning
Patient
Sweet
is essential in mastering myself and my thoughts so that all actions are transformed into acts that are equal in the face of my impending death.
Whenever I do not treat each and every act as a warrior stalking maneuver I sacrifice my energetic happiness and well-being in the process. If I was always determined to properly stalk myself and live like a successful warrior I would be much happier and that happiness would grow in direct proportion with my concentrated refined determination for that happiness to grow.
I am preparing to apply the principles of stalking towards cleaning the fish tank. That is the battlefield I have now chosen.
SPECIAL EDIT:
I believe there is at least one more principle of stalking that was left out of the 7 shared by Carlos Castaneda:
STALKING PRINCIPLE #8:
In all movements and actions
strive to be extremely centered and properly grounded
in a fluid and relaxed manner
COMMENTARY:
If a person is not properly balanced/centered and deliberately grounded he or she cannot function at his or her best. Each act should be treated as an exhilarating battle for ones life and energy should be pulled from all directions equally (from below the feet as well) and stored with ruthlessly impeccable precision. To be off balance and not properly grounded when performing any act diminishes the effectiveness of that act.
To advance upon the stalkers principles in theory is the best I can do at the moment. I wont pretend that, as an American, I never indulge in anything. Where to draw the line between enjoyment and indulgence that is harmful to the being is a mystery to me. Id say I am guilty of indulging on many fronts. I would attempt to excuse myself by saying that I live in a society of people who are psychologically programmed to indulge, but that is just a cheap excuse. So what I am writing here on stalking is what I feel are the ideal observations towards applying the principles to moment-by-moment living.
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I have discovered an alternative stalking method in which the mind is manipulated so that whatever is being done is done with an attitude of Ive been waiting for such a long time to perform this wonderful task. Finally, I have the time to do it. When such an attitude is properly cultivated the task then becomes the most wonderful task in the world and the velocity of movement may slow in order to effectively sip the task like a luxurious fine wine. I just got through performing a stalking task in this manner and found it to be quite satisfying. Lets see how things progress.
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Anybody seen Warrior Seer anymore?
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